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Old 11-09-2012, 11:50 AM   #16
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What it is is an idictment of of the voters who were such babies, they wouldn't even lift a finger to keep the most liberal president since FDR out of office. I get it that the far right doesn't like moderate candidates. But their claims that there is no difference in a moderate Republican and Obama are delusional. This was simply a right wing hissy fit that will beat hundreds of millions of people down for decades. Well done, Tea Party. Thank you for my Obamacare.
Well, the Tea Party DID vote for Romney...there's democrats in the Tea Party too, btw.

Face it, the pubs are just not cool enough to compete with the dems. There are SOME politically enlightened people on both sides of the isle, but the majority are politically ignorant and are perfectly willing to be blissfully ignorant and vote for whatever candidate has the most 'star potential', or cultist following, or whatever makes them feel good, or peer pressure, or a million non-political reasons. My niece voted for Obama because she thought he was 'cute' and liked his kids. The political arena has become youtube. And if you don't have more sensationalism than the other guy, you go home.

I bet Romney would have gotten more votes if he came out looking like Bootsy Collins doing the Michigan Rag...it's just the way it is now. pubs are unimaginative, stuffy, set in their ways, and quite simply NOT entertaining enough.

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Well, the Tea Party DID vote for Romney...there's democrats in the Tea Party too, btw.

Face it, the pubs are just not cool enough to compete with the dems. There are SOME politically enlightened people on both sides of the isle, but the majority are politically ignorant and are perfectly willing to be blissfully ignorant and vote for whatever candidate has the most 'star potential', or cultist following, or whatever makes them feel good, or peer pressure, or a million non-political reasons. My niece voted for Obama because she thought he was 'cute' and liked his kids. The political arena has become youtube. And if you don't have more sensationalism than the other guy, you go home.

I bet Romney would have gotten more votes if he came out looking like Bootsy Collins doing the Michigan Rag...it's just the way it is now. pubs are unimaginative, stuffy, set in their ways, and quite simply NOT entertaining enough.

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stupid is stupid does then, we should have to pass a test to vote (other than breathing which is needed too)
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stupid is stupid does then, we should have to pass a test to vote (other than breathing which is needed too)
Hell we can't even make sure they are legal citizens with the RIGHT to vote. How are we going to test for competency?

This election and the trend of idiocracy are exactly why the country is doomed.
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stupid is stupid does then, we should have to pass a test to vote (other than breathing which is needed too)
The media, which was given the right to free speech in order to print the truth and be a watchdog for the American people and inform them of impropriety no matter where it occurs, has perverted their primary edict and succumbed to thier own desires of installing their favorite candidate by slanting the image and covering any truths or policies that would turn it away and only showing or inventing any negatives pertaining to THEIR opponent...they have become salacious.

If it were Romeny they were treating as Obama, I'd be just as pissed because they are fucking every one of us by acting this way.
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What it is is an idictment of of the voters who were such babies, they wouldn't even lift a finger to keep the most liberal president since FDR out of office. I get it that the far right doesn't like moderate candidates. But their claims that there is no difference in a moderate Republican and Obama are delusional. This was simply a right wing hissy fit that will beat hundreds of millions of people down for decades. Well done, Tea Party. Thank you for my Obamacare.
You own leftwing-ness earned you ObamaCare. Instead of being a voter of principle, your a limpdick voter who just hopes he can out liberal the last liberal. Get some principles, get some spine, come back in 4 years.

And you can thank the GOP for RobertsCare.. that's what your mantra of compromise gets you.

Your party has alienated about everyone they can.. so get used to being told what to do by a liberal bureaucrat til you die.

Sorry of this was harsh, it just get's old listening to you whiners blame your own incompetence on those of us who generally vote with you.

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I get it that the far right doesn't like moderate candidates.
Which imo is a big problem, because governance is usually done from the "middle", but that has been changing over the past 12 years.
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Which imo is a big problem, because governance is usually done from the "middle", but that has been changing over the past 12 years.
Nixon was a moderate, Bush1 was moderate, Bill Clinton was moderate. Carter was far left, Reagen was far right, Bush1 posed as far right to get elected. Obama is far left.

So in reality, being either right or left get's you elected. Being moderate does not. Bill Clinton had to court the far left to win, against a GOP moderate. And he really won because there was a far right guy taking voters from both Bush1 and Dole.

Romney was just too similar to Obama.. You know this because it's a strategy that worked for the left.. they wanted Romney from day 1.
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Yeah, that't the ticket. Take a party that can get 49% of the vote and turn it into two parties that can each get 25%. Now there's a strategy to have influence. The number of Democrats who would be involved in this is miniscule.

Former Republican presidential candidateHerman Cain is calling for the creation of a third political party — saying it is clear to him that neither major political party is willing to address the nation’s economic problems.
“We need a third party to save this country,” Cain told American Family Radio host Bryan Fischer. “This country is in trouble and it is clear that neither party — is going to fix the problems we face.”
Cain agreed with Fischer’s assessment that conservatives are growing tired of being ignored by Republican party leadership — and that many believe the GOP no longer speaks for them.
Cain said it was troubling that Mitt Romney received fewer votes than John McCain did in 2008 — suggesting that many conservatives did not vote on Tuesday.
“I don’t believe the Republican Party has the ability to rebrand itself against the mainstream media machine that blatantly works to support this president and other liberals as well as the Democrats,” Cain told the radio host.
Cain said it would take money, leadership and at least 50 coalitions to create a viable third political party.
“You need one for every state because of the whacky rules state by state that they have that make it difficult for a third party to emerge,” he said.
He said the new party could be made up of not only disenfranchised Republicans — but also Democrats.
“There are just as many disgruntled Democrats would probably be a part of this movement as there are Republicans — who are sick of the political class,” Cain told American Family Radio. “Realistically, it is more viable today than it has ever been.”
duno

He prolly woulda had a better chance of winning without Bain on his resume.
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Face it, the pubs are just not cool enough to compete with the dems. There are SOME politically enlightened people on both sides of the isle, but the majority are politically ignorant and are perfectly willing to be blissfully ignorant and vote for whatever candidate has the most 'star potential', or cultist following, or whatever makes them feel good, or peer pressure, or a million non-political reasons.
but this is nothing new and has pretty much always been the case. It's more a human behavior phenomenon. Think of high school and how the prom king and queens are picked,... and there you have it. Rubio, Ryan, Palin and so forth on the Right, are stars in their own right in the eyes of most conservatives. BO is definitely a star in the eyes of most on the Left.

There is also the fact that the Pubs haven't done much except blame everyone else for their failures.. the media, the "stupid voter" (as Limbaugh put's it) and everything else except themselves and their failed policies. It's getting sooooo old.
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Nixon was a moderate, Bush1 was moderate, Bill Clinton was moderate. Carter was far left, Reagen was far right, Bush1 posed as far right to get elected. Obama is far left.

So in reality, being either right or left get's you elected. Being moderate does not. Bill Clinton had to court the far left to win, against a GOP moderate. And he really won because there was a far right guy taking voters from both Bush1 and Dole.

Romney was just too similar to Obama.. You know this because it's a strategy that worked for the left.. they wanted Romney from day 1.
and depending on the political atmosphere and what's going on the political arena, they simply bend with the wind. For the typical conservative..especially since more are fringe nowadays, there was just to much of a "likeness" to BO, and the health care deal he started in MA didn't help either. As much as some conservatives don't want to admit it, I'm sure his Hispanic heritage and religion had something to do with it as well. Why else would so many stay home when the Pubs are trying desparately to defeat BO .
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