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Not to play devils advocate, but a lot of the problems they are faced with are because of their actions in the past.

Israel is not angelic in the way they do things, not even close. Anyone care to guess where the Jews from Israel came from, what country, before they were awarded the land of Isreal? They did the same to the Golan heights as they want to do with the Gaza. The only difference is that Golan heights was not a strategic military hold so they bombed the place before they gave it back.

imagine if the Mexico was awarded land from a foreign entity to take land from Texas? What would Texas do?

Wait Mexicans are already taking land.
As you might've guessed, I love to play devil's advocate . You are correct GhostShadow, who we call the "Israelite's" today, they certainly aren't the Jews mentioned in the bible and they certainly didn't come from or originate in that part of the world.

They are from the Khazaar empire originating in Europe. They were nomads, like many groups and settled in different parts of Europe. They were kicked out of many places they went like Spain and Portugal and eventually split up and moved to further parts of Europe.

I believe that per a UN mandate, they were ordered to return the Golan Heights after the war, but never did. From what I understand, that area is a good source of water.

Folks should really study the true origins of WWII. Germany did tolerate them, but eventually wanted to kick them out of the country, because they were up to their old tricks. Amstel Mayer Rothschild who was one of the biggest banking magnates swore to bring war to Germany. He and other Jewish leaders constantly talked of bringing war to Germany well before WWII...and this was one of the major causes of the war, along with Hitler denying the setup of a Central bank in his country and backing money with metals.
After the "Night of broken glass" or "Kristallnact" as the German's called it, even Winston Churchill said that basically Germany had no choice and that war was coming to them.

A few quotes from some prominent Jewish leaders:

“Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon.”
- Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934
(also quoted in his book "The New Holy Alliance").

“We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany.”

- David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934
“REMEMBER MY CHILDREN, THAT ALL THE EARTH MUST BELONG TO US JUDEN, AND THAT THE GENTILES, BEING MERE EXCREMENTS OF ANIMALS, MUST POSSESS NOTHING.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812.

I certainly have no love for Hitler, as no one deserves to be gassed and burned.. Fact is, the Jewish bankers wanted war and sacrificed their own people. This is how the central banks get rich and took over countries. It's common knowledge that the Jewish bankers bank-rolled Hitler and it's also on record that he (Hitler) got help from the financial and political dealings of Prescott Bush (George H. W. Bush's) dad. In fact it was the West which helped the Nazi's rise to power. Hell, TIME Magazine had name Hitler it's man of the year TWICE!!

After WWI, Germany was broke, the last thing Germany wanted was another war.

Some Jewish leaders have even admitted that they control the U.S. today, which isn't a surprise since they control our currency via the Federal Reserve (our Central Bank). You can only guess who get's rich off of all our military conflicts, and we've had plenty since the days of Vietnam. In fact, every President we've had going back to Reagan saw some type of military conflict. As with WWII, they always fund both sides of the war. Why indebt only one country, when you can indebt two.

Taking countries to war and taking over their currency are the 2 major reasons that many countries kicked them out. Our political and economic situation isn't just happenstance. Our dollar is being destroyed with a purpose, and so the wars serve as part of that purpose as well... along with destroying civil liberties.

It doesn't take much to check into the lineage of those that run our top major banks like golden sachs and Jp morgan chase, along with our Central bank. Like so many before us, we've taken the bait hook, line and sinker.
Take a bit to read the Talmud, and you see where this comes from. Read some of books from the older Jewish leaders and bankers.

On top of all that, we still give them roughly 40 Billion a year in aid, and you don't here many folks complaining about that.

I don't believe in making blanket statements about folks, because it's not right or fair, but there are a select group or what they call "Zionist" who follow the religious teachings of the Talmud. I'm sure that some of here know that they have a name for EVERYONE who is not "Jewish", and that is "Goyim". They believe that Goyim only exists to serve them. Of course not all "Jews" think like that, as many have different religions or aren't so Orthodox.

I know some might asks why this isn't taught, and the answer is mostly because Jews own roughly 96% of our mainstream media outlets. It's the reason why we're constantly indoctricated to the Nazi atrocities 5 days a week on the History channel, but you saw very little to nothing regarding the slave trade which was responsible for over 100 MILLION deaths!!..and that's a conservative number. Since Jews owned most of the slave ships, that's not something they want taught. They also want the focus to be solely on them.

They also set up our education system as while their kids attend Jewish acadamies which teach them about business, investing and real education. Meanwhile, we and our kids get the same old white-washed b.s. that renders critical thinking a foreign notion. Our system teaches to group-think, agree and obey,.. our political culture and climate is a great example with real clear results.

Well, as a country, we've certainly lived up to the term
"Goyim", and as long as they control our currency, they own us.

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Internationally recognized as Syrian territory, the Golan Heights has been occupied and administered by Israel since 1967.[1] It was captured during the 1967 Six-Day War, establishing the Purple Line.[12]
On 19 June 1967, the Israeli cabinet voted to return the Golan to Syria in exchange for a peace agreement. Such overtures were dismissed by the Arab world with the Khartoum Resolution on September 1, 1967.[13][14] In the aftermath of the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Israel agreed to return about 5% of the territory to Syrian civilian control. This part was incorporated into a demilitarised zone that runs along the ceasefire line and extends eastward. This strip is under the military control of UN peace keeping forces.
Construction of Israeli settlements began in the remainder of the territory held by Israel, which was governed under military administration until 1981, when Israel passed the Golan Heights Law extending Israeli law and administration throughout the territory.[15] This move was condemned by the United Nations Security Council in UN Resolution 497,[16][17] which said that "the Israeli decision to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights is null and void and without international legal effect." Israel asserts it has a right to retain the Golan, citing the text of UN Resolution 242, which calls for "safe and recognised boundaries free from threats or acts of force".[18] However, the international community rejects Israeli claims to title to the territory and regards it as sovereign Syrian territory.[1][19][20]
Israeli Prime Ministers Yitzhak Rabin, Ehud Barak, and Ehud Olmert each stated that they were willing to exchange the Golan for peace with Syria. Approximately 10% of Syrian Golan Druze have accepted Israeli citizenship.[21] According to the CIA World Factbook, as of 2010, "there are 41 Israeli settlements and civilian land use sites in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights."[22]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights

The Syrians are angry because Israel invaded their land and took a valuable piece of land, at least in their eyes and the world just watched and did nothing. Israel would be backed by USA if Syrians declared war on them. Half of our problems are because we back Israel without questioning their motives. 25% of foreign aid goes to Israel.

Not only did the Israelis give Golan Heights back, they destroyed the town to nothing before leaving.

I have read many of your posts, and I know you have a deeper understanding of how things are not so black and white.
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During World War 1, England conquered the Golan from the Turks and it became part of Syria when it became an independent country in 1945. Up until 1967, the Syrians controlled this entire area and it was here where they set up their military bases and fortifications. From here they would shoot at the Israeli kibbutzim and at Israeli fishing boats down below. The Israelis suffered greatly during that period and it was only on the fourth day of the Six Day War (June 1967), that Israel was able to capture these heights from the Syrians and put a stop to all the constant shelling.

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During World War 1, England conquered the Golan from the Turks and it became part of Syria when it became an independent country in 1945. Up until 1967, the Syrians controlled this entire area and it was here where they set up their military bases and fortifications. From here they would shoot at the Israeli kibbutzim and at Israeli fishing boats down below. The Israelis suffered greatly during that period and it was only on the fourth day of the Six Day War (June 1967), that Israel was able to capture these heights from the Syrians and put a stop to all the constant shelling.

You need to go further back in history, from when Kibbutz Afik and Prophet Elisha prophetisied the end of Ben-Hadid III. That's when most of the shit started. You think the Syrians disdain for Jews happened out of nowhere.

For some reason we are all taught the "innocence" of Jews in this world and we have to accept it without question. Or you will be labeled anti Semitic, even though the term is widely used incorrectly.

Read C6vettedudes post. That's the history we never got in public school. Even our entrance in WWII was manipulated and contrived by outside people with a vested interest in our participation in war.

I'll start to put my tin foil hat on.
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As you might've guessed, I love to play devil's advocate . You are correct GhostShadow, who we call the "Israelite's" today, they certainly aren't the Jews mentioned in the bible and they certainly didn't come from or originate in that part of the world.

They are from the Khazaar empire originating in Europe. They were nomads, like many groups and settled in different parts of Europe. They were kicked out of many places they went like Spain and Portugal and eventually split up and moved to further parts of Europe.

I believe that per a UN mandate, they were ordered to return the Golan Heights after the war, but never did. From what I understand, that area is a good source of water.

Folks should really study the true origins of WWII. Germany did tolerate them, but eventually wanted to kick them out of the country, because they were up to their old tricks. Amstel Mayer Rothschild who was one of the biggest banking magnates swore to bring war to Germany. He and other Jewish leaders constantly talked of bringing war to Germany well before WWII...and this was one of the major causes of the war, along with Hitler denying the setup of a Central bank in his country and backing money with metals.
After the "Night of broken glass" or "Kristallnact" as the German's called it, even Winston Churchill said that basically Germany had no choice and that war was coming to them.

A few quotes from some prominent Jewish leaders:

“Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon.”
- Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934
(also quoted in his book "The New Holy Alliance").

“We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany.”

- David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934
“REMEMBER MY CHILDREN, THAT ALL THE EARTH MUST BELONG TO US JUDEN, AND THAT THE GENTILES, BEING MERE EXCREMENTS OF ANIMALS, MUST POSSESS NOTHING.”
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812.

I certainly have no love for Hitler, as no one deserves to be gassed and burned.. Fact is, the Jewish bankers wanted war and sacrificed their own people. This is how the central banks get rich and took over countries. It's common knowledge that the Jewish bankers bank-rolled Hitler and it's also on record that he (Hitler) got help from the financial and political dealings of Prescott Bush (George H. W. Bush's) dad. In fact it was the West which helped the Nazi's rise to power. Hell, TIME Magazine had name Hitler it's man of the year TWICE!!

After WWI, Germany was broke, the last thing Germany wanted was another war.

Some Jewish leaders have even admitted that they control the U.S. today, which isn't a surprise since they control our currency via the Federal Reserve (our Central Bank). You can only guess who get's rich off of all our military conflicts, and we've had plenty since the days of Vietnam. In fact, every President we've had going back to Reagan saw some type of military conflict. As with WWII, they always fund both sides of the war. Why indebt only one country, when you can indebt two.

Taking countries to war and taking over their currency are the 2 major reasons that many countries kicked them out. Our political and economic situation isn't just happenstance. Our dollar is being destroyed with a purpose, and so the wars serve as part of that purpose as well... along with destroying civil liberties.

It doesn't take much to check into the lineage of those that run our top major banks like golden sachs and Jp morgan chase, along with our Central bank. Like so many before us, we've taken the bait hook, line and sinker.
Take a bit to read the Talmud, and you see where this comes from. Read some of books from the older Jewish leaders and bankers.

On top of all that, we still give them roughly 40 Billion a year in aid, and you don't here many folks complaining about that.

I don't believe in making blanket statements about folks, because it's not right or fair, but there are a select group or what they call "Zionist" who follow the religious teachings of the Talmud. I'm sure that some of here know that they have a name for EVERYONE who is not "Jewish", and that is "Goyim". They believe that Goyim only exists to serve them. Of course not all "Jews" think like that, as many have different religions or aren't so Orthodox.

I know some might asks why this isn't taught, and the answer is mostly because Jews own roughly 96% of our mainstream media outlets. It's the reason why we're constantly indoctricated to the Nazi atrocities 5 days a week on the History channel, but you saw very little to nothing regarding the slave trade which was responsible for over 100 MILLION deaths!!..and that's a conservative number. Since Jews owned most of the slave ships, that's not something they want taught. They also want the focus to be solely on them.

They also set up our education system as while their kids attend Jewish acadamies which teach them about business, investing and real education. Meanwhile, we and our kids get the same old white-washed b.s. that renders critical thinking a foreign notion. Our system teaches to group-think, agree and obey,.. our political culture and climate is a great example with real clear results.

Well, as a country, we've certainly lived up to the term
"Goyim", and as long as they control our currency, they own us.
Great post. if only we are taught the real history.
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You need to go further back in history, from when Kibbutz Afik and Prophet Elisha prophetisied the end of Ben-Hadid III. That's when most of the shit started. You think the Syrians disdain for Jews happened out of nowhere.

For some reason we are all taught the "innocence" of Jews in this world and we have to accept it without question. Or you will be labeled anti Semitic, even though the term is widely used incorrectly.

Read C6vettedudes post. That's the history we never got in public school. Even our entrance in WWII was manipulated and contrived by outside people with a vested interest in our participation in war.

I'll start to put my tin foil hat on.
Hmm. Awfully close to what I have been reading up on the last few years. But the jewish tie-in seems to be left out of alot of history.

I got plenty of tin foil, just PM me if you need extra.
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For some reason we are all taught the "innocence" of Jews in this world and we have to accept it without question. Or you will be labeled anti Semitic, even though the term is widely used incorrectly.
You're right on point GhostShadow! The Talmud actually teaches them that it's ok to lie, cheat, steal or do whatever it is they have to do in order to overcome their enemies (All who are non-jewish). They are taught to use the term "Anti-Semitic"... after all, in this PC world that we live in (which so many complain about) who's going to press the issue when being faced with such accusations?
Even people who know what these guys (zionist) are up to, underestimate how evil these guys are and fail to understand the limits these people will go to in order to conquer.

They are very smart and cunning, they know that even the most "steadfast" man has his price. It's not a coincidence that over the past 99 years, the banks have totally corrupted and have taken over our country. Our "elected" Congressmen/woman get richer and richer with each passing decade, while simotaneously, the public becomes poorer and poorer. This is why I keep saying that it doesn't matter who you vote for,.. They’ve ALL sold us out to the bankers. We currently have a "2 - head, 1 party" system.

Since our media is Jewish owned, and since they know how to play people against each other really well, American's continue to unwittingly fall for the race, sex, religious and social issues that are unleashed every election cycle. They know that by convincing one group that they're better than another, for whatever silly reason...that they'll be able to divide and conquer both groups.

Race was the biggest trick. In fact, early America was against slavery, but it was the Jews who convinced politicians and some elite that it would prosper the country. Of course it didn't help that Pope Innocent VIII gave all European countries the blessings and "ok" to enter into the slave trade. As the Pope put it "African's don't have souls, so feel free to inflict whatever pain you need to". Darwin didn't help either with his declaration that it was the natural order of things for blacks to serve whites.
To the point, the Jews owned most of the ships, but employed Europeans from and abroad and those who landed in America. They themselves would not do the dirty work. The Jews along with Catholic Church convinced whites that they were better than blacks, so the slave trade was in full swing.

Since "slaves" were comodoties, banks, Insurance companies and land owners became wealthy, while the average citizen grew poorer. So while race issues between whites and blacks (for obvious reasons) became worse, Jews benefited and profited from the trade... and by way of the banks, conquered both groups. With the passing of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, they also took over the country.

Today, nothing has changed. Whites and Blacks continue to have major issues (though things are much better), while the Jewish bankers have plundered our dollar, arranged via legislation to have our jobs shipped overseas, taken our homes, cars and small businesses, and the wars and conflicts continue to take our civil liberties. It's easy to see that we're being dragged into another war....coming soon to a "TV" near you.

Again, I'm not, and never will say that all "Jewish" people are like this, but the "Jewish" banking elite definitely have a plan. Lincoln recognized this and spoke out about it openly.
It's not a coincidence that all 4 American presidents who were assassinated tried to evade the Central banks and advocated printing our own money and backing it by metals.

The four:

Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and JFK.
All 4 were adamant about not letting our govt come under control of the Central banks, subsequently all 4 were killed...3 of them headshots. McKinley did support banking, but he also wanted a gold standard.

Going back to Hitler, after WWI, he denied the Central banks access which is why the Jews dragged them into war. Hitler also started printing money and backing that money by metals.

There is a book called "Confession of an Economic Hitman" written by a guy named John Perkins. He was a former insider and participant who in plain language, writes out the blueprint for how Countries are brought to war. Lots of good information that will make you go hmmm. As someone who hasn't lived in CONUS since I was 18, and have lived and worked abroad in many countries, It's easy to how well things are working for the banking elite.

Personally, I think the message is clear, but American's continue to bicker over non-issues and continue to fail to recognize who their real enemies are.

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