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09-17-2012, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo84
I've been trying to do a similar thing.
Aluminum radiator support: test fit
And a coat of semi-gloss black to keep it NCRS compliant:
The crossmember under the radiator is aluminum, and similarly painted black. There's a couple other aluminum/lightweight items too.
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where'd you get the AL radiator support? or did you make it from scratch?
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09-17-2012, 09:36 PM
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#167
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Originally Posted by gkull
An invester............ It is really hard to answer or even bother to when you are always so antagonistic.

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If your friends name is Lance, he sold the car a few years ago, if your friends name is David he sold the car a couple of years ago, one would think if either one was your friend you would know what your friend was doing...and I`m curious...how are you instructing GT-1 drivers without an SCCA national license?
last thing...ever hear the saying " You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time?"
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09-18-2012, 03:39 AM
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Last edited by racervette69; 02-22-2013 at 08:18 AM.
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09-18-2012, 09:30 AM
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#169
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Originally Posted by redvetracr
one would think if either one was your friend you would know what your friend was doing...
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I don't ask alot of questions. Cars come and go. Mr. Farmer is a smart enough guy businessman that for years flipped race cars to pay for his racing machines and limited west coast racing events. The latest arrival at the shop is the 1978 J P Special F1 driven by Mario. We had the 1979 model for years. I did not recognize the name of the guy that owns it. I just know how to work on Ford/ Cosworth 4 cam 4 valve V-8's
Later on today I will be running the Westlake V-12 from one of the Gurney all American eagles on the dyno.
Are you coming to the event in Concord (SanDiego,
CA)? It is always a fun end of the year event for Historic cars.
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09-18-2012, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lsejlowe
where'd you get the AL radiator support? or did you make it from scratch?
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Scratch. I made a partial jig to get the exterior dimensions correct so that the radiator would fit and it would bolt to the bodywork and lower crossmember. Assuming Photobucket is cooperating, here's a picture.
And here's the lower crossmember while I was piecing it together.
Each piece was about 5 pounds lighter than the stock part. Not large numbers, but the weight was taken from in front of the front axle centerline.
Edit: I don't know WTF is going on today, but I'm having major problems with my Photobucket account. I apologize for the lousy looking post.
Last edited by Turbo84; 09-18-2012 at 01:43 PM.
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'69 LeMans Blue Coupe
427 ZL-1
Doug Nash 5 speed
C4 suspension
Wilwood brakes
(The corner pile in the barn of original and numbers-matching stuff continues to grow each week.)
'84 Blue Coupe Z51
355 turbo, aluminum heads
Richmond 6 speed
'51 Chevy Pickup (blue, of course)
350 single turbo
Turbo 400 trans
'85 Vette front suspension
'95 Vette rear suspension |
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09-18-2012, 07:22 PM
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#171
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Originally Posted by racervette69
Yea,, like a engine block, can't get much better than that.... Pure stealth. well done! Would you mind sharing your scale numbers or pm me. WOW!
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Thanks.  The car was 2875#, but I recently ended up putting about 20-25 pounds of aluminum sheet under the car doing the bellypan. I'm hoping the aero improvement (less drag and lift) helps the handling more than the extra weight hurts it.
I was mentioning some lighter stuff I put on the car. The first is a tubular sway bar off a '93 Firebird. I had to cut and shorten (and reweld) the arms to make it fit, but it ended up about 4# lighter than the 1 1/8 inch bar I had on it.
I also put a later (Grand-Am) p/s pump on the car. Six pounds off the front end.
And for amusement (because I was running out of other ideas), aluminum hood hinges. This is a picture during fabrication, prior to final shape and a proper pivot pin (and a coat of black paint, of course).
Didn't take off a lot of weight (3/4 of a pound for the pair), but hey, it was reduced weight up front and up high.
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'69 LeMans Blue Coupe
427 ZL-1
Doug Nash 5 speed
C4 suspension
Wilwood brakes
(The corner pile in the barn of original and numbers-matching stuff continues to grow each week.)
'84 Blue Coupe Z51
355 turbo, aluminum heads
Richmond 6 speed
'51 Chevy Pickup (blue, of course)
350 single turbo
Turbo 400 trans
'85 Vette front suspension
'95 Vette rear suspension |
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12-11-2012, 06:08 PM
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#172
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Re-Kindle this thread...
Ivan -
You were taking a welding course -- AND, were planning some "cage" action.
Any Updates?
Cheers - Jim
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12-12-2012, 06:42 PM
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Sir Dude
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Originally Posted by phantomjock
Ivan -
You were taking a welding course -- AND, were planning some "cage" action.
Any Updates?
Cheers - Jim
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I have put the Vette on the top lift for the winter. Just completing the TIG semester at school, now I need to come up with about $1500 to $2000 for a good AC/DC TIG welder. I love welding aluminum with the TIG. So I see a lot of weight reduction coming. I like the Aluminum radiator support in the earlier posts.
Going to take stick welding next semester, as I already know stick it will alot of free time for projects at school(they have all the good equipment to work with.). will get the bars bent and notched ready to go in next spring.
Been spending a lot of time on the big block project. Its about road ready.
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12-12-2012, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by riggs 74
If it can't, you would defiantly have fun trying with a setup like that.
Riggs
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12-13-2012, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by iburke
I have put the Vette on the top lift for the winter. Just completing the TIG semester at school, now I need to come up with about $1500 to $2000 for a good AC/DC TIG welder. I love welding aluminum with the TIG. So I see a lot of weight reduction coming. I like the Aluminum radiator support in the earlier posts.
Going to take stick welding next semester, as I already know stick it will alot of free time for projects at school(they have all the good equipment to work with.). will get the bars bent and notched ready to go in next spring.
Been spending a lot of time on the big block project. Its about road ready.
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Ya got my attention there.
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'69 LeMans Blue Coupe
427 ZL-1
Doug Nash 5 speed
C4 suspension
Wilwood brakes
(The corner pile in the barn of original and numbers-matching stuff continues to grow each week.)
'84 Blue Coupe Z51
355 turbo, aluminum heads
Richmond 6 speed
'51 Chevy Pickup (blue, of course)
350 single turbo
Turbo 400 trans
'85 Vette front suspension
'95 Vette rear suspension |
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12-13-2012, 06:44 PM
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#176
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DC Crew
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Iburke, How happy are you with the suspension set up you have, if you were to do it over again, would you have went with a coil over setup instead? I'm getting ready to upgrade my suspension and I'm just looking for some honest feed back from someone that actually uses thier car on a track. I will be doing alot of auto crossing next year and look forward to having a better setup and wasn't sure if I was going to go with the same type of setup you are running, or go with a coil over setup at all four corners.
Riggs
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12-13-2012, 09:24 PM
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Sir Dude
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Originally Posted by riggs 74
Iburke, How happy are you with the suspension set up you have, if you were to do it over again, would you have went with a coil over setup instead? I'm getting ready to upgrade my suspension and I'm just looking for some honest feed back from someone that actually uses their car on a track. I will be doing alot of auto crossing next year and look forward to having a better setup and wasn't sure if I was going to go with the same type of setup you are running, or go with a coil over setup at all four corners.
Riggs
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You are asking me to open my mouth and get 100 tongue lashings from the coil over people out there.
Oh what the hell. Yes I would do it again. I have a car with coil overs on it. They are a royal pain to adjust. The transverse fiber glass springs and adjustable shocks on this car can all be adjusted with out even jacking up the car. The only thing that requires jacking is if I want to change the actual spring rate. The springs can be adjusted to 4 different spring rates. A coil over spring rate can not be adjusted.
Is it as good or better than Coil overs. I will not say. The only way to tell that is to build two identical cars one with coil overs and one like mine and put them on the track. If some one wants to pick up the tab I would be glad to do that and report back...
When not on the track I can soften the spring rate, raise the ride hight, and soften the shocks. Which allows me to take momma to the store to get eggs.
All of my cars are street legal. and daily drivers.
Just one old mans opinion...
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12-13-2012, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iburke
You are asking me to open my mouth and get 100 tongue lashings from the coil over people out there.
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now just wait a cotton-pickin' minute!
 seems like that VB&P kit is a pretty hot setup. If I ever get off my ass and get my car put together I might have to work up a coil-over setup for the comparison.
Just bought a Miller Dynasty 200DX at work. Pretty neat, compact little setup. Brand new it was $5000 with the water cooler, torch, coolant, cart, regulator, wireless footpedal, etc. Hook up a bottle and you're ready to weld. And being an inverter welder it saves on power. Maybe you should see what Santa says?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Miller-Dynas...item1c2e747839
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12-13-2012, 09:53 PM
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Sir Dude
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Originally Posted by Turbo84
Ya got my attention there.
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A shot or two of my BB project. Not a Vette.
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12-14-2012, 03:44 AM
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Iburke, thanks for the feed back.
Riggs
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