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12-11-2012, 07:28 AM
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Junk you skipped ahead, thats not a C7...its really should be a C10
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12-11-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bkuper
Real Vetters actually suggests that some are not "real". I'm just interested in learn the benchmark. I imagine there are significant numbers of site members who have not purchased a Corvette yet
Does this make them any less "real"? Or does you comment suggest that a person who does like and may choose to purchase a C7 is less of a "vetter"?
This implication seems "real".
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Junk you skipped ahead, thats not a C7...its really should be a C10 
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12-11-2012, 11:17 PM
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#288
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Speaking of rears...
A cursory Google image search on tail lights reveals many shapes and styles among revered collector and super cars.
The Camaro has had round lights and rectangular lights...the Vette has had round, oblong, oval and squarish.
I guess my point is that tail light shape is not consistent among models, and the new bezel, as much as we may dislike it, doesn't in my opinion break any traditional design themes. At times the Vette and Camaro lights are indistinguishable (1970) for the same model year.
The angular rear lines are a definite carry-over from the Sideswipe, and GM would have really hit the nail on the head with fewer lines and a little more curve. And GM isn't the only one who hands over design to those who dream fugly.
The Lamborghini Gallardo has one of the ugliest asses in automotive history...as does the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta and the Enzo. You'll never hear Europeans bitch about the ass of a Ferrari. What do you mean the Emperor wears no clothes?
And they will have a heyday with the new Vette rear.
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12-12-2012, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Atheris
Speaking of rears...
A cursory Google image search on tail lights reveals many shapes and styles among revered collector and super cars.
The Camaro has had round lights and rectangular lights...the Vette has had round, oblong, oval and squarish.
I guess my point is that tail light shape is not consistent among models, and the new bezel, as much as we may dislike it, doesn't in my opinion break any traditional design themes. At times the Vette and Camaro lights are indistinguishable (1970) for the same model year.
The angular rear lines are a definite carry-over from the Sideswipe, and GM would have really hit the nail on the head with fewer lines and a little more curve. And GM isn't the only one who hands over design to those who dream fugly.
The Lamborghini Gallardo has one of the ugliest asses in automotive history...as does the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta and the Enzo. You'll never hear Europeans bitch about the ass of a Ferrari. What do you mean the Emperor wears no clothes?
And they will have a heyday with the new Vette rear.
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You obviously haven't looked at one drawing of the C7 rear if you feel this way. At one glance, it immediately screamed fifth generation Camaro to everyone who saw it. Whether people liked it or not, that was the consensus. You are obviously trying to ignore that fact.
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12-12-2012, 09:47 AM
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Speaking of the Europens, when Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear shows a Corvette, he always pushes in the rear bumper and makes a comment about how it flexes... a silly thing to do since it's supposed to flex... but maybe GM designers took it to heart and made it look more european so that Clarkson wouldn't complain... it will be interesting to see whay he has to say about it.... given our opinions.... not that i give a shit what he has to say... but interested none the less.
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12-12-2012, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Junkman2008
You obviously haven't looked at one drawing of the C7 rear if you feel this way. At one glance, it immediately screamed fifth generation Camaro to everyone who saw it. Whether people liked it or not, that was the consensus. You are obviously trying to ignore that fact.
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Since I've posted several chops of the rear, I'm pretty sure I've seen it. I agree that it immediately reminded me of the new Camaro. And I hate that. So, I'm part of the consensus and not ignoring anything.
It screamed 5th gen Camaro because that's what we saw first. Had the C6 been gaudily festooned with squinty-looking tail lights, followed by similar design in the new Camaro, we would have claimed that the Camaro was following the Vette design (which many would still dislike, yet consider novel).
The evolution of Vette design is not as linear as we would like to believe...that's a fact. GM has a history, as do other makes, of swapping ideas and design.
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12-12-2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Atheris
... The evolution of Vette design is not as linear as we would like to believe...that's a fact. GM has a history, as do other makes, of swapping ideas and design.
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If you think that the Vette design is not very linear, then you ain't looking close enough.
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12-15-2012, 02:13 PM
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Rear end
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Originally Posted by Junkman2008
With all the ugly ass being shown in this thread, it's time for me to save it. I present one of my asses. If only GM could implement something like this!
And now, back to your regularly scheduled program... 
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HEY--I see a red mark at the 1:00 o'clock area--did somebody not like the tail lights, & tried to BITE them off ??!! You have exquisite taste---that rear end will always be in style, no m atter what year !!
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12-15-2012, 03:59 PM
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We'll see, 01/13/13, not far off. I'd be willing to bet it won't have those taillights, they'll be more round or oval.
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12-15-2012, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by musicman
HEY--I see a red mark at the 1:00 o'clock area--did somebody not like the tail lights, & tried to BITE them off ??!! You have exquisite taste---that rear end will always be in style, no m atter what year !!
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That is my sucking mark. I like biting too but she complains that I bite too hard.
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12-16-2012, 04:59 PM
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If you think that the Vette design is not very linear, then you ain't looking close enough.

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There's nothing linear about C1 > C2 > C3. I think you need to look up the term punctuated equilibrium.
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12-16-2012, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Atheris
There's nothing linear about C1 > C2 > C3. I think you need to look up the term punctuated equilibrium.
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12-16-2012, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Atheris
There's nothing linear about C1 > C2 > C3. I think you need to look up the term punctuated equilibrium.
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Late first generation Corvettes rear end is similar to what was used on the second generation Corvette.
So as you can see, that was clearly an evolution between the first generation and the second generation. The third generation Corvette was by far the biggest change styling wise for the Corvette. However since then the Corvette has really been an evolution from that point forward.
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12-17-2012, 03:03 AM
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Yes...thats a good example of linear...I stand corrected.
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02-02-2013, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ward Cleaver
I wouldn't call it "leading in styling cues" if it has tail lights which remind people of the Camaro every time they see them.
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Originally Posted by DadMan1950
They will not be Camaro tail lights, Ward.
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Originally Posted by DadMan1950
I said it before and I'll say it again they will not be Camaro lights! Remember where you heard it!
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Originally Posted by DadMan1950
Until I see the car and not a conceptualized drawing I will stay with my prediction.
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I haven't seen a post from the DadMan since the C7 was unveiled.
DadMan...are you there??
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