Re: Mother of twins shoots intruder

[the machine]

Originally Posted by BJC99Hardtop

Although tragic, these "guy who shot his kid" stories are usually propaganda for the other side. The context is often removed from the scenario and the full story is summarized into a snippet that draws the reader to a conclusion.

Let's not forget that the shooter will spend a good portion of the rest of his life in jail. He did not have a plan. He used the gun instead of his brain. He was armed, but not ready. More software...less hardware.

I always say that the second worst thing that could ever happen to me, would be to have to hurt someone. The worst thing being that I, or my family, were hurt.

I think both types of stories are propaganda. We certainly don't know all the facts about the woman who shot the crow bar wielding intruder...just as we don't know all the facts about the dad who shot his son thinking he was an intruder.

I just think that for every story about the woman who shot an intruder, for equal consideration we should post a story about the gun being taken away and used to shoot the gun owner or a story about the dad or mom who accidently shoots their son.

[c6vettedude]

Originally Posted by the machine

I think both types of stories are propaganda. We certainly don't know all the facts about the woman who shot the crow bar wielding intruder...just as we don't know all the facts about the dad who shot his son thinking he was an intruder.

I just think that for every story about the woman who shot an intruder, for equal consideration we should post a story about the gun being taken away and used to shoot the gun owner or a story about the dad or mom who accidently shoots their son.

They could be perceived as propaganda, or as stories that happened as told. You seldom hear about someone using a firearm to protect themselves, compared to the number of stories you hear about people who are senselessly killed by guns.

[the machine]

Originally Posted by c6vettedude

They could be perceived as propaganda, or as stories that happened as told. You seldom hear about someone using a firearm to protect themselves, compared to the number of stories you hear about people who are senselessly killed by guns.

Well how many times do the two situations happen. People are killed by guns every single day. I do not think someone shoots an intruder every single day.( I could be wrong) Every month the NRA publishes three or four stories about someone defending themseves with a fire arm in their magazine. But there is never the other stories of people who shoot the wrong person or thier own child. I just cannot imagine how bad I would feel if I shot one of my boys thinking they were a burgler. But I think it would be a good service to it's readers to make people aware of the danger of misidentification.

[blckslvr79]

Originally Posted by the machine

( I could be wrong)

HOLY SHIT BATMAN!!!!


He didn't just say that????

[blckslvr79]

Originally Posted by the machine

Well how many times do the two situations happen. People are killed by guns every single day. I do not think someone shoots an intruder every single day.( I could be wrong) Every month the NRA publishes three or four stories about someone defending themseves with a fire arm in their magazine. But there is never the other stories of people who shoot the wrong person or thier own child. I just cannot imagine how bad I would feel if I shot one of my boys thinking they were a burgler. But I think it would be a good service to it's readers to make people aware of the danger of misidentification.

And what are the statistics of people shooting intruders compared to mistakenly shooting their own child?

No one is forcing you to have a gun in your home. If you are afraid of shooting the wrong people, then you should not have a gun in your possession.

I'm sure 99.9% of gun owners are aware of the danger of misidentification.

[c6vettedude]

Originally Posted by the machine

Well how many times do the two situations happen. People are killed by guns every single day. I do not think someone shoots an intruder every single day.( I could be wrong) Every month the NRA publishes three or four stories about someone defending themseves with a fire arm in their magazine. But there is never the other stories of people who shoot the wrong person or thier own child. I just cannot imagine how bad I would feel if I shot one of my boys thinking they were a burgler. But I think it would be a good service to it's readers to make people aware of the danger of misidentification.

... but one of the reasons you don't hear about many stories about someone using a gun in self-defense, is because of the gun itself. In most cases, once a gun is drawn in self-defense, the perp flees the scene, or perhaps even a warning shot is fired. Only the most desparate and crazed criminals will pursue an attack after a gun is revealed.

There have only been a few instances like the case where the guy shot his son. More mom's run over their kids in the driveway backing out.

Nothing is 100% safe unless it's locked away. Ironically, prisoners in supermax prisons are the safest people in country, but who want's that?? Danger is inherent in a free society, though I agree that a lot of the laws that are already on the books needs to be reinforced, and some of them tweeked... like making sure that people on psychotropic medications can't purchase guns.