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Old 01-16-2013, 04:02 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Texdentist View Post
I've lived in TX for 62 years, never carried a gun, and never felt unsafe. Can't say there won't be a problem in the future, but gun toting is a hassle I don't care to bother with. I don't have a problem with conceal/carry laws. But I know a lot of people who carry, and I have never known anyone who actually benefitted from it. The value of C/C is way overhyped IMO.
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Originally Posted by Texdentist View Post
It's gonna take hard data and some time to back up your assertion that CCL cuts crime. I don't think that has been proven yet. Look at NYC. They darn sure don't have CCL, but their murder rate has dropped 50% in the last few years. Are the criminals worried that a gun carrier from out of state might be nearby? Cause and effect can be assumed, but it takes lots of data to prove that connection.
Here ya go Tex.
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I like the comment of the Mayor of New York. He said that civilized society does not need large capacity magazines. Ha Ha, he calls New York a civilized society???? Has he looked at the crime statistics for the city????

The "big spender in chief" is about to drop his plan that will save the world. Lets see how this plays out.
Bloomberg is a dipshit. This is the same guy that thinks it's more important to curb the sale of 16oz. sugary drinks than figure out a way to curb the violent mayhem that occurs in his shithole of a city every day.
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Bloomberg is a dipshit. This is the same guy that thinks it's more important to curb the sale of 16oz. sugary drinks than figure out a way to curb the violent mayhem that occurs in his shithole of a city every day.
Next he'll ban forks and spoons because they make people fat!!!
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Originally Posted by Texdentist View Post
Me too. But that works both ways. Guns are also involved in lots of accidents, and I'm pretty sure regret goes along with that too. Not knocking CCL. Just saying there are risks either way.
Corvettes, Vipers, Modern day & vintage musclecars are involved in plenty of accidents.
They are all Loaded High Horsepower Machines that are deadly with the inexperienced or stupid wreckless.
Just like a loaded gun.
Leave the Corvette shut off & keys away so no idiot can operate it, it harms no one.
Leave a gun on a table loaded & no idiot touches it, it harms no one too.

If you never had an incident in your lifetime where your life of loved one was not at stake of deranged killer, your lucky to be living in that part of Texas.

I wish I could say the same of IL.
Has been fucked up since 1974 when I recall much yet.
I remember my DAD knocking a mother fucker out cold & beating the shit out of him till he did not move no more.
The guy went after my brother & me to cause harm all because we were starring at the goofy looking fucker.


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The guys in this article were open carrying in Georgia. Read the result here. I live in a fairly low crime area of metro Atlanta... this happened less than five miles from my house:

Feb 18 2010
Two customers displaying holstered pistols deterred an armed robbery in a Kennesaw Wafflehouse recently.

There is some debate raging in Georgia about whether people should conceal their holstered handguns while in public. Some believe that wearing handguns openly will result in a loss of the element of surprise during a criminal attack, such as an armed robbery, while others believe that wearing handguns openly deters criminal attack. For Matt Brannan and J.P. Mitchell, who carry openly as a routine, the issue is no longer academic.

Matt Brannan and J.P. Mitchell were dining in the Wafflehouse on Barrett Parkway at I-575 in Kennesaw at 4:45 in the morning recently when a scout for an armed robbery crew entered the restaurant to case it. At the time, Matt and J.P. thought he looked a little suspicious, as he was wandering around the small restaurant like he was looking for someone. Unknown to Matt and J.P., two cars full of armed robbers were parked behind the restaurant waiting for the scout's report.

The scout saw that two of the customers were wearing holstered 1911 Springfield Mil-Spec .45 pistols, and he immediately turned and left the store.

Meanwhile, conscientious Cobb County Police Officer D. Lowe had noticed suspicious cars sitting behind the restaurant in the dark and decided to investigate. He caught men with masks and rifles who had been preparing to rob the Wafflehouse. The criminals informed the police that they had changed their mind upon discovering armed customers and were waiting for Matt and J.P. to leave. Ironically, the police car was pulling in to the parking lot just as Matt and J.P. were driving away. In other words, had Matt and J.P. not been armed, the robbery probably would have occurred before the police intervened.

Captain Jerry Quan, the Commander for Precinct One, where the Wafflehouse is located, confirmed Matt Brannan's story as one in which the open display of a pistol deterred a well armed robbery crew.

Matt Brannan is making an Open Records Act request, and there will be an update to this story when more information is available. The case number is 09-133500. There will be updates and follow up articles as more information becomes available.
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