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Old 01-24-2013, 09:34 AM   #31
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I dunno. But I just don't think that the government is going to turn on us. If they were going to, they would have already. They've got the weapons, they've got the ability. Hand to hand, man to man combat is for suckers...they'd just level your neighborhood with B2s, A10s, etc. All the guns in the world in your lil bunker ain't gonna do shit. One EMP blast over every major city is all it would take and we'd be cast back to the stone ages.

Tell ya what, if they ever do turn on us...you can say "I told ya so"....but every day that passes where they DON'T, I get to call ya'll looney.
I bet there was a Jew or two in Germany screaming the same thing about 1930.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:36 AM   #32
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I bet there was a Jew or two in Germany screaming the same thing about 1930.
Never gonna happen again.
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yeah ok

Those who fail to understand history are bound to repeat it.

It's simple to dismiss reality. It takes balls to face it.
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yeah ok

Those who fail to understand history are bound to repeat it.

It's simple to dismiss reality. It takes balls to face it.
Like I said....if it happens, you get to say "I told ya so." Until that day, I get to call ya'll looney.
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Like I said....if it happens, you get to say "I told ya so." Until that day, I get to call ya'll looney.
It's people like you that are protected by people like me. If our founding fathers had your mentality, they never would have split from the king. Hell. They never would have left Europe.
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It's people like you that are protected by people like me. If our founding fathers had your mentality, they never would have split from the king. Hell. They never would have left Europe.
I don't need your help....thanks.
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Hell I`ve been called a lot worse
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Me too.

But do you atleast agree that if the government were to REALLY want to turn on us, that they would use such overwhelming force that common citizens wouldn't be able to do much. Consider the disparity of available weapons.
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But do you atleast agree that if the government were to REALLY want to turn on us, that they would use such overwhelming force that common citizens wouldn't be able to do much. Consider the disparity of available weapons.
Nope.

It doesn't happen overnight. Baby Steps my friend. Baby Steps.
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Yup. That's what Charlie Sheen said too. Winning!
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Yup. That's what Charlie Sheen said too. Winning!
Speaking of bat shit crazy. Last I looked, ol' Charlie is doin' fine with his new show...Fiat commercials...bangin' chicks....doin' blow. Guess neither of us need your help.
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Speaking of bat shit crazy. Last I looked, ol' Charlie is doin' fine with his new show...Fiat commercials...bangin' chicks....doin' blow. Guess neither of us need your help.


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But do you atleast agree that if the government were to REALLY want to turn on us, that they would use such overwhelming force that common citizens wouldn't be able to do much. Consider the disparity of available weapons.
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I dunno. But I just don't think that the government is going to turn on us. If they were going to, they would have already. They've got the weapons, they've got the ability. Hand to hand, man to man combat is for suckers...they'd just level your neighborhood with B2s, A10s, etc. All the guns in the world in your lil bunker ain't gonna do shit. One EMP blast over every major city is all it would take and we'd be cast back to the stone ages.
Cavemen in Afghanistan have been holding them off for a decade.. so I like the odds on the American Citizens.


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Never gonna happen again.
It's happened multiple times since Germany.. and will happen multiple times in the future. It's the end product of government, always has been.
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Cavemen in Afghanistan have been holding them off for a decade.. so I like the odds on the American Citizens.




It's happened multiple times since Germany.. and will happen multiple times in the future. It's the end product of government, always has been.
Newb I am surprised at you. I guess I shouldn't be.

This is bat-shit insanity. The government is made up of people like you and me. It would be imposible in this country to wage war on the citizens, because the only people the government has to wage that war are the actual people they would wage war on. Do you really believe that a majority of US soldiers would wage war on the citizens of the US???

This sort of talk is used by certain groups to try and incite hatred and fear of the government. The worst of these groups hope to start a war, since they cannot gain anywhere near the majority that it would take to make the changes they wish would take place. Most of those changes not surprisingly would put those people in positions of power over everyone else. The best of these groups are gun and amunition manufacturers who have been extremely succesfull at getting a lot of fools to buy guns and amo to protect themselves from absolutly nothing.

So try and think rationaly for a minute, and ask yourself these questions:

If the government was trying to stockpile weapons and amunition to kill US citizens, Why would they do it openly so we can all figure it out??? If they are omnipotent enough to kill all of us, wouldn't they be omnipotent enough to hide the build up????

Why would the government want to kill the people who give them power??? The US is the lone superpower in the world because of it's citizens. If they killed them, how would they maintain that power??? How would they defend themselves against countries like China, and Russia or even Iran????

How would they keep the plans secret? Again the government is made up of lots of people, with lots of different beliefs. How would you keep any plans to attack the people secret??? Hell with Wikileaks around this would be a prime target if it was true. Even if there was just a contingency plan in place in case Social Security runs out, that plan would somhow leak. It is just the nature of beauracracies that secrets like this could not be contained.


Seriuosly Newb you are smarter than this.
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Newb I am surprised at you. I guess I shouldn't be.

This is bat-shit insanity. The government is made up of people like you and me. It would be imposible in this country to wage war on the citizens, because the only people the government has to wage that war are the actual people they would wage war on. Do you really believe that a majority of US soldiers would wage war on the citizens of the US???

This sort of talk is used by certain groups to try and incite hatred and fear of the government. The worst of these groups hope to start a war, since they cannot gain anywhere near the majority that it would take to make the changes they wish would take place. Most of those changes not surprisingly would put those people in positions of power over everyone else. The best of these groups are gun and amunition manufacturers who have been extremely succesfull at getting a lot of fools to buy guns and amo to protect themselves from absolutly nothing.

So try and think rationaly for a minute, and ask yourself these questions:

If the government was trying to stockpile weapons and amunition to kill US citizens, Why would they do it openly so we can all figure it out??? If they are omnipotent enough to kill all of us, wouldn't they be omnipotent enough to hide the build up????

Why would the government want to kill the people who give them power??? The US is the lone superpower in the world because of it's citizens. If they killed them, how would they maintain that power??? How would they defend themselves against countries like China, and Russia or even Iran????

How would they keep the plans secret? Again the government is made up of lots of people, with lots of different beliefs. How would you keep any plans to attack the people secret??? Hell with Wikileaks around this would be a prime target if it was true. Even if there was just a contingency plan in place in case Social Security runs out, that plan would somhow leak. It is just the nature of beauracracies that secrets like this could not be contained.


Seriuosly Newb you are smarter than this.
Somebody drank the Koolaid.

So because it's happening in front of you, it's not really happening. Ok.
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