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Old 02-12-2013, 06:54 PM   #31
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No....but WTF does that have to do with anything?
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I strongly disagree with you opinion but will respect yours.
99.999% it is going to happen. SHTF.

It will happen in your lifetime.
Mine.
Your children & mine must live through.


Fuck even my boss Jack knows what Time it is.
Grab a Gun & polish & practice shooting it.

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.....well if you have any inside info, how about helping
all the other brothers here, because I got to tell you
it just not gonna happen Brian...talk is cheap by those
who wish to poke the weak and insecure....
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.....well if you have any inside info, how about helping
all the other brothers here, because I got to tell you
it just not gonna happen Brian...talk is cheap by those
who wish to poke the weak and insecure....
I have been waiting for You Roy to speak too.
You served in Vietnam. Fought & back home alive.
Still here 40 years later.

The truth is there, just open your eyes another 1/8" inch Roy.
Just because I was born in 1969 & not fighting on the front lines with You does not mean I would not fight along your side or others today.
State the Noble Cause.
99 % of the time, there is not one here. At each others necks, Bickering, bitch slapping one another.

Of all people Roy, I know you do understand what is happening daily.
Your not the type to give up likewise. No matter what.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:21 PM   #34
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]It's happened alot throughout history[/COLOR]. It will happen again, be it pandemic (middle ages plague) catastrophe (flood, NEO strike, nuke strike) or just a good old fashioned break down of society.

I appreciate your position and hope you prepare well for that conclusion and pray you (or any of us) are never faced with a SHTF scenario.
....and I think that's all it is "History", we've all learned by it,
it doesn't mean your going to fall back into the same boat
as before, people are pushed into paranoia to the tune of
65,000,000 +, same as "WAMD"..
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I have been waiting for You Roy to speak too.
You served in Vietnam. Fought & back home alive.
Still here 40 years later.

The truth is there, just open your eyes another 1/8" inch Roy.
Just because I was born in 1969 & not fighting on the front lines with You does not mean I would not fight along your side or others today.
State the Noble Cause.
99 % of the time, there is not one here. At each others necks, Bickering, bitch slapping one another.

Of all people Roy, I know you do understand what is happening daily.
Your not the type to give up likewise. No matter what.
...Brian I don't see any immanent cause to conclude that
such actions will become in my lifetime or my daughter's....
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How must it felt to have your name and address delivered to any criminal who can read__ Bitter white guy clinging to guns and religion. Obama 4/12/08 And my shooting range stopped selling ammo except for range use. Is reloading a little more attractive now?
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Huh? I didn't say that.

This article seeks to directly correlate the increased gun purchases to the fact that Obama is president. Maybe not for you, but for some part of the 65mil+ that occurred since 2009.

My point is that all the people that are buying into this doom and gloom (maybe not you) are going to feel pretty silly when it all comes to pass and nothing happens.

Meanwhile, the manufacturers love it. They don't care WHY people are buying, just that they ARE buying.
I want quoting or responding to you.

My point was not all gun buyers were because of the president. And the apparent large increase of gun sales would possibly explain the large amount of ammo being sold. Just my .02 on the OP
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Actualy I am trying to think of even past history what society has broken down to the point where everyone had to fight everyone else for thier very survival. Never really happened....except in the movies.
What about the Jews under Hitler? What about the Kurds under Sadam? What about the "dark ages"? What about the fall of Rome?
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...Brian I don't see any immanent cause to conclude that
such actions will become in my lifetime or my daughter's....
Alright Roy.
We have something in Common. Both have kids.
And were expendable. So they can go on living.

Now if SHTF ever. I hope I - we can count on You & others for directive.
A bunch of misfits shooting at one another leads to only 1 complete objective. Dead bodies.
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What about the Jews under Hitler? What about the Kurds under Sadam? What about the "dark ages"? What about the fall of Rome?
The Jews under Hitler should have been saved by all of the rest of the world just as the Kurds were under Sadam. But even in those horrible situations, they were not at a point of everyman for himself. The Jews in the Holocuast worked together to help save as many of themselves as they could. The Jews also had two years of warning, that they were in great danger. Many of them took that warning and left, but sadly most did not. But the danger did not come from the government in Nazi Germany...it came from the citizens of Germany, who stood by and let the Jews be persecuted.

In the dark ages it was certainly not everyman for himself. People simply moved away from cities which were full of diseases spread by the poor sanitary conditions.
The fall of Rome similarly was simply the fall of an empire....no more big government so most of the people left Rome and headed into the countryside. And all the places under Romes thumb were no longer under that thumb and all the slaves were suddenly free.
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I hear Ozzy Osborne's Crazy Train Playing Tex.
Just need someone to bite off a Bat's head.

I strongly disagree with you opinion but will respect yours.
99.999% it is going to happen. SHTF.

North Korea detonated an underground Nucleaur Bomb today. US Geologists picked it up on Sizmac meters coast to coast. Rocked Japan too.

Everyone is supposed to die if that has not come to light yet.
Just the Elite & slaves below to serve them will be left.
Populas 500,000 or less worldwide.

It will happen in your lifetime.
Mine.
Your children & mine must live through.

Fuck even my boss Jack knows what Time it is.
Grab a Gun & polish & practice shooting it.

BR
Take a breath my friend. North korea is a crazy place but evn they are not crazy enough to send a nuke our way. We are prepared to defend against thousands of nukes comming at us from all over the world at one time, from the former Soviet union. Do you think we would really have a hard time knocking down one piece of shit rocket built by people who are half brain dead from mal-nutrician. Hell I doubt it would ven leave their own airspace before it was shot down.

Then the shit hits the fan alright....but not for us, but for them. Because the minute they launch a nuke towards us, the Chinese wash their hands of NK and we are free to modernize them into the stone age.

Don't let guys like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck scare you. They want you scared so they make millions off of you and people like you who trust them. Alex Jones is already worth $5million thanks to the fear he peddles, and Glenn Beck is worth more than $105 million. I don't begrudge them the right to make money....but not at the cost of fear that they are putting into the minds of so many people. These guys have been around forever...they used to sell snake oil, then they sold tonics and now they just sell fear. They take randomly collected tidbits of information and distort them into and end of the world scenario, that just cannot happen if you truly understand how the world and our country works.

Just remember a few facts and they will put you much more at ease....Obama is a president, not king, and as such he only holds one third of the power in this country. As president he is comander in chief of the armed forces, but the armed forces are made up of citizens of this country who would lay down their lives to protect it from all enemies foreign or domentic. Now I know you have nothing but respect for our men in uniform...Right!!!! So how could anybody get around them to get to you.
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The Jews under Hitler should have been saved by all of the rest of the world just as the Kurds were under Sadam. But even in those horrible situations, they were not at a point of everyman for himself. The Jews in the Holocuast worked together to help save as many of themselves as they could. The Jews also had two years of warning, that they were in great danger. Many of them took that warning and left, but sadly most did not. But the danger did not come from the government in Nazi Germany...it came from the citizens of Germany, who stood by and let the Jews be persecuted.
Boy does this not look eerily similar to today.

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Laws were passed right before their eyes with unbelievable repercussions against themselves. The Americans with guns worked together to help save as many of themselves as they could. The Americans also had many years of warning signs, that they were in great danger. Many of them took those warning tried to warn others and prepared for the worst in the event it was necessary to defend their freedoms, but sadly most did not listen. The danger did come from the government in the US...it came from the citizens of US, who stood by drank the koolaid and let their own be persecuted.
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Boy does this not look eerily similar to today.

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Laws were passed right before their eyes with unbelievable repercussions against themselves. The Americans with guns worked together to help save as many of themselves as they could. The Americans also had many years of warning signs, that they were in great danger. Many of them took those warning tried to warn others and prepared for the worst in the event it was necessary to defend their freedoms, but sadly most did not listen. The danger did come from the government in the US...it came from the citizens of US, who stood by drank the koolaid and let their own be persecuted.
....your comparing Germany to the US, the last time I looked
one man has not seized all the power and forced everyone
into one belief, but there are a lot of people who wish they could....
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....your comparing Germany to the US, the last time I looked
one man has not seized all the power and forced everyone
into one belief, but there are a lot of people who wish they could....
One man didn't do it in Germany either. It took many groups and tons of people ignoring the obvious signs. Hitler was an elected official who set out to destroy his opposition and consolidate power. But he had no chance without the help of "normal" citizens either through ignorance or apathy.
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