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Old 02-25-2013, 06:35 AM   #31
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Although of great expectations your rationale lacks mental clarity and coherence revisit your positions, as your thinking borders with symptoms of those when first products of a crayon.

Moreover try and not make onlookers perceive of you making a Sisyphus (sissy fuss) of yourself in furtherance as it's often the small mind that makes pursuance of such insignificance.

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Good luck with your expectations, etc.

FYI: Sisyphus was a king of Corinth condemned forever to roll a huge stone up a hill in Hades only to have it roll down again on nearing the top.
Did you learn about Sisyphus while achieving your well-earned University of Phoenix degree or simply look it up on Wikipedia?
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:58 PM   #32
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The ensuing gs models were also in the last years of the production run. You really think well see a gs this year? Not a chance.


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True the ensuing Grand Sports were the last years of the production runs.
But the First 5 Grand Sports were in the first year of the Sting Ray Production.

And if you take a look at the numbers for 2010 -2012, the Grand Sport achieved the highest production numbers in each year for the coupe and the convertible (almost 2 to 1).

So would it not make good sense to give the people what they obviously want since that is what they have been buying.

And these numbers also tend to make you wonder about that $55k that is being tossed around as a price point. All GM has said is if you could afford a C-6 you could afford a C-7.

Well most folks were affording a C-6 Grand Sport over the past three years (four if the status quo stays the same for 2013) It would lend one to believe more of a 60k price point.

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True the ensuing Grand Sports were the last years of the production runs.
But the First 5 Grand Sports were in the first year of the Sting Ray Production.

And if you take a look at the numbers for 2010 -2012, the Grand Sport achieved the highest production numbers in each year for the coupe and the convertible (almost 2 to 1).

So would it not make good sense to give the people what they obviously want since that is what they have been buying.

And these numbers also tend to make you wonder about that $55k that is being tossed around as a price point. All GM has said is if you could afford a C-6 you could afford a C-7.

Well most folks were affording a C-6 Grand Sport over the past three years (four if the status quo stays the same for 2013) It would lend one to believe more of a 60k price point.

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Click on plant info then Option Penetration then each year.

Total Built for three years
11390 base coupes and convertibles
21360 Grand Sport coupes and convertibles
I think your assuming the cars sold just because they were "Grand Sports". I don't think the name will sell the cars. I think the current GS sold because it gave Z looks and great performance at a good price.So regardless of when the next GS is launched, the sales numbers will only depend on what the car has to offer.
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I think your assuming the cars sold just because they were "Grand Sports". I don't think the name will sell the cars. I think the current GS sold because it gave Z looks and great performance at a good price.So regardless of when the next GS is launched, the sales numbers will only depend on what the car has to offer.
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I think your assuming the cars sold just because they were "Grand Sports". I don't think the name will sell the cars. I think the current GS sold because it gave Z looks and great performance at a good price.So regardless of when the next GS is launched, the sales numbers will only depend on what the car has to offer.
I am not assuming a thing, the numbers are from The Corvette Plant on actual vehicles built. I didn't take the time to show how the three year total broke down, figured you could go look for yourself. But it actually gets a wider margin in '11 then even wider in '12.

I can only speak from my own personal experience as to why there is a '11 GS in my garage. I was turned on by its looks, the wide stance is what I like, and it has that. I come from a long line of wide stance vehicles, I was a big fan of Pontiac, and since they are now gone I looked harder at chevy, and the '11 GS fit my needs.

I honestly think thats why the C-7 really doesn't turn me on, it went back to that narrow look, and it doesn't appeal to me. Toss in that hideous rear that looks like they backed a Camaro into a Cadillac and those Shark teeth on the front, and in MY OPINION they ruined a beautiful Car.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:47 PM   #36
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I am not assuming a thing, the numbers are from The Corvette Plant on actual vehicles built. I didn't take the time to show how the three year total broke down, figured you could go look for yourself. But it actually gets a wider margin in '11 then even wider in '12.

I can only speak from my own personal experience as to why there is a '11 GS in my garage. I was turned on by its looks, the wide stance is what I like, and it has that. I come from a long line of wide stance vehicles, I was a big fan of Pontiac, and since they are now gone I looked harder at chevy, and the '11 GS fit my needs.

I honestly think thats why the C-7 really doesn't turn me on, it went back to that narrow look, and it doesn't appeal to me. Toss in that hideous rear that looks like they backed a Camaro into a Cadillac and those Shark teeth on the front, and in MY OPINION they ruined a beautiful Car.
So I'm still not seeing your point. The gs is a way to stimulate sales in the late model years, which is exactly why there will be no gs in 14. GM doesn't need a gs model to sell the 14, they will sell every corvette they can make, even if you think they are ugly. When sales slow you will probably see the gs. Can we stop talking about this now?


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Understood, but if you are not buying another GM product period, the why hang out in the upcoming model thread and grouse about a set design.
It's the same thing any new model comes out.. the old model owners want to dump on it.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:52 PM   #38
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I don't think we'll see a Grand Sport version like the C6's until after the C7 Z06 & maybe even the ZR1 version is sold. The C6 GS offered Z06 style at a lower performance/price point than the Z06 but alittle higher than a base C6 and it sold very well. I don't think chevy will mess with that formula.
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