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Old 02-26-2013, 12:48 PM   #16
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Whatever...you can keep playing the role of the old man sitting on his porch yelling at the squirrels. Again...if it were SO obvious, then there should be a candidate that can roll out in front of the country, explain it in everyday terms and get the support of 70% of the people, hands down. Unfortunately, that never happens because it appears that most of us are missing the super secret decoder ring that only comes in Cracker Jack boxes.
Then move on..
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The charts are in months..
Yes...I know...whats that got to do with anything?

2 charts show prices rising together and a possible relationship. The other 2 show that one almost has nothing to do with the other, since they don't track with each other.
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Yes...I know...whats that got to do with anything?

2 charts show prices rising together and a possible relationship. The other 2 show that one almost has nothing to do with the other, since they don't track with each other.
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Neither do I. 2 charts show loose inverse relationships...and 2 show more direct relationships. And the first chart just shows was the price of gas was on those particular days...with no context as to where it was on the days before or after. How are we to know if "prices surged" unless we see the days and weeks prior and after?
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Then move on..
Absolutely not. Explain WTF it is that you're talking about. The problem with you is that you expect everyone to just naturally understand exactly what is it that you're talking about and God forbid they ask a question....well then shit....they're already a lost cause because they've been indoctrinated by the status quo political machine.

Maybe if ya took a second to rationally explain things is less than 343634578983455734 words, people would get on board with that the hell you're trying to convince us all of.
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If you take the 1st bar graph dates and correlate then to the line graphs that contain the corresponding dates, there is hardly a "surge" in those months that also doesn't occur in months without a Humphrey-Hawkins Report day.

Feb 2009:
Bar Graph: $1.75-ish
Line Graph: approaches $2.00, but almost starts and ends the month at $1.75.

Hardly a SURGE. Especially when compared to:

May 2009:
Bar Graph: none, since there is no Humphrey-Hawkins Report in may 2009
Line Graph: starts at approximately $2.10 and ends at a little over $2.50.

So there's an example of why people don't get WTF you're talking about.
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Fed dumps a bunch of paper to finance deficit spending and bank bailouts.
Devalues the currency. Sure Wall street loves it, but
everyone else pays more for goods and services throughout
the economy. Mot easily visible in the price of gas and food.
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Fed dumps a bunch of paper to finance deficit spending and bank bailouts.
Devalues the currency. Sure Wall street loves it, but
everyone else pays more for goods and services throughout
the economy. Mot easily visible in the price of gas and food.
OK, I get that printing money devalues the dollar. (Yay, we agree!) And I guess a quick devaluation can lead to commodities price surges (again!). But what's news about that? Money supplies go up and down, interest rates go up and down, commodities prices go up and down, and they are even related at times (!). I still don't see the news in it. I understand the disagreement with the Fed and TARP and all the rest. I disagree too. That's why I didn't vote for Obama. But it's not sinister stuff, it's just policy differences. And, yes, 50%+ don't get it. Something tells me that the two of us aren't going to change any of that, because all they care about is their check. We can hope that Republicans (the only party currently able to mount a credible alternative the Dems) will find a great candidate, that those who should have voted last time and didn't will wake up and vote for the more conservative candidate, and that some of this can be undone. I'm not holding my breath. All I know is that so far it is possible to take a chill pill and live a happy life as the liberals systematically deconstruct our country. I'm going to have to leave it up to the next generation to wise up and kick the bastards out.
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OK, I get that printing money devalues the dollar. (Yay, we agree!) And I guess a quick devaluation can lead to commodities price surges (again!). But what's news about that? Money supplies go up and down, interest rates go up and down, commodities prices go up and down, and they are even related at times (!). I still don't see the news in it. I understand the disagreement with the Fed and TARP and all the rest. I disagree too. That's why I didn't vote for Obama. But it's not sinister stuff, it's just policy differences. And, yes, 50%+ don't get it. Something tells me that the two of us aren't going to change any of that, because all they care about is their check. We can hope that Republicans (the only party currently able to mount a credible alternative the Dems) will find a great candidate, that those who should have voted last time and didn't will wake up and vote for the more conservative candidate, and that some of this can be undone. I'm not holding my breath. All I know is that so far it is possible to take a chill pill and live a happy life as the liberals systematically deconstruct our country. I'm going to have to leave it up to the next generation to wise up and kick the bastards out.
There is not 10% of this country's population that gets what is going on. I understand that. But as a guy with a fuel bill of $15-20k per month, it still pisses me off.

Hell, there probably isn't 10% of this country qualified to balance a checkbook, much less understand the scams that go on in the political and financial world. I post these articles mostly as informative.

There is a very large percentage of population that is pretty satisfied with the status quo and happy to live long enough to die. More power too them, IMO. But there is still a certain percentage who are interested in learning more about the way things work, who benefits, and who takes it in the ass.. if only to try and protect themselves when the shit unravels.
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But as a guy with a fuel bill of $15-20k per month, it still pisses me off.
Hmmmm. You might want to get a tune-up on that Vette.
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Hmmmm. You might want to get a tune-up on that Vette.
Amazing how bad the mpg is when the average speed is 110mph.
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