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Old 02-26-2013, 01:05 PM   #1
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Proposed Guntersville ordinance sparks controversy

GUNTERSVILLE, Ala. (WAAY) - A proposed disaster emergency ordinance in Guntersville is causing controversy.

The city council and mayor are considering a new ordinance that gives the city more power.

Mayor Leigh Dollar says it would ensure a quick response in the event of a major disaster, like the April 27, 2011, tornadoes.

But it would also give police officers more power.

The ordinance states officers could disarm individuals, if necessary.

Dollar says the proposal is just way to give officers more authority to protect themselves.

"We are not trying to infringe upon anyone constitutional rights whatsoever. It's just to protect the workers working out there in a disaster," Dollar said.

Paul Landry opposes the proposed ordinance. He's a music teacher at the Guntersville Music Academy.

"Well, it seems like an infringement on the 2nd Amendment and that's the biggest problem I have with it," Landry said.

The Mayor says Guntersville needs the new law.

Dollar wants to model after the city of Tuscaloosa where its already on the books.

The proposed ordinance will be on the March 4th agenda at the next Guntersville City Council meeting.

http://www.waaytv.com/news/local/pro...a4bcf6878.html
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Here's a niiiiiiicccceeeeeeeeeeeee big blanket to cover over the entire gun issue so that you can all be terrified.....

WTF does this even mean:
"The ordinance states officers could disarm individuals, if necessary."

Care to provide any detail? All individuals? Roaming bands of trouble making individuals? Under what circumstances? Who's the decision maker? Permanently disarm? Temporarily?

Officer's can "disarm individuals" in lots of situations...during emergencies or not...so instead of whipping up a nice bowl of panic cream...why not toss us all a bone and flesh out your outrage a little further.
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Yup....them there's the City Council. And?
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Yup....them there's the City Council. And?
Thats who you need to direct your questions too. I provided the link to make it easy.
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Thats who you need to direct your questions too. I provided the link to make it easy.
Not me...you're the one that's "outraged" about an ordinance that you have no detail about. You'd much rather just stoke the fire of "takin our guns away" instead of actually having any real facts.
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Not me...you're the one that's "outraged" about an ordinance that you have no detail about.
I've read the ordinance. Never expressed "outrage".

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You'd much rather just stoke the fire of "takin our guns away" instead of actually having any real facts.
The facts are real, you just don't accept reality.

It's called the NEWS ROOM. Various articles covering various topics are posted here on a daily basis. This happens to be a news article, I found it interesting and posted it.

Sue me..
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I've read the ordinance. Never expressed "outrage".
So where is it? Post it here. That's what we're discussing....not just some half cocked article. I asked simple questions and you gave me some bullshit link to the city council. Post up the ordinance in its entirety so we can all see what the big whoop is is all about.
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So where is it? Post it here. That's what we're discussing....not just some half cocked article. I asked simple questions and you gave me some bullshit link to the city council. Post up the ordinance in its entirety so we can all see what the big whoop is is all about.
I posted a news article. From that article I was able to use the info to do a google search and find the text of the ordinance in question. I did not write the article, I did not express any outrage, I do not owe you an answer.
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Not me...you're the one that's "outraged" about an ordinance that you have no detail about. You'd much rather just stoke the fire of "takin our guns away" instead of actually having any real facts.

OK XQIZT, you have made you who cares about the constituting statement. Now put your head back in the sand.
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I posted a news article. From that article I was able to use the info to do a google search and find the text of the ordinance in question. I did not write the article, I did not express any outrage, I do not owe you an answer.
In other words, you just want your sheep to freak out about the ordinance based on the vagueness of the article. Probably because the actual ordinance isn't that big of a deal. Gotcha.
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In other words, you just want your sheep to freak out about the ordinance based on the vagueness of the article. Probably because the actual ordinance isn't that big of a deal. Gotcha.
Any ordinance/law that allows police to take your guns should be news and should be disseminated.

You are confused to call “US” sheep for staying informed. And you confuse informed with outrage. Pay closer attention.

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In other words, you just want your sheep to freak out about the ordinance based on the vagueness of the article. Probably because the actual ordinance isn't that big of a deal. Gotcha.
The only one in the thread making a big deal, is you. Although it is a pretty big deal when a government entity gives itself power over the constitution of the land.

Maybe you should start writing articles, since none of them seem to be informative enough for you.
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Any ordinance/law that allows police to take your guns should be news and should be disseminated.

You are confused to call “US” sheep for staying informed. And you confuse informed with outrage. Pay closer attention.

I agree. And I would also say that discussing the actual ordinance instead of just a fly by article would be helpful as well. But VN doesn't want discussion...he just wants to stir the pot and give one more "example" of how bad things are.
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