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Old 03-20-2017, 09:38 AM   #46
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Are those bids coming from the Mexican government or is Trump "backpedaling" from that promise too?
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Are those bids coming from the Mexican government or is Trump "backpedaling" from that promise too?
Let me email that question to Rachel Maddow.
I'm sure she has the "inside scoop" on that question.

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Let me email that question to Rachel Maddow.
I'm sure she has the "inside scoop" on that question.
You went and stuck your dick in this dead thread and now you want to try and DODGE the question THAT I asked YOU. So again, is Trump getting those bids from the Mexican government or is he BACKPEDALING ON THAT PROMISE TOO?
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You went and stuck your dick in this dead thread and now you want to try and DODGE the question THAT I asked YOU. So again, is Trump getting those bids from the Mexican government or is he BACKPEDALING ON THAT PROMISE TOO?
I know it is embarrassing for you that I resurrected
your dead "fake news" topic but I have no idea who
will be bidding on building the wall.
You can speculate as much as you want but
I prefer to deal with FACTS!

YOU started this thread claiming that Trump
"Immediately Backpedaled on the Wall".
He obviously isn't backpedaling.
The wall will be built, just like Obama promised
in 2006 when he was a senator -

“The bill before us will certainly do some good,”
Obama said on the Senate floor in October 2006.
He praised the legislation, saying it would provide
“better fences and better security along our borders”
and would “help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration
in this country.”


Instead of acting like someone pissed in your Wheaties,
you should be happy that Trump is following up on
one of Obama's failed promises.

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... I have no idea who
will be bidding on building the wall.
It was SUPPOSED to be MEXICO, REMEMBER? That's what your orange president claimed! But guess what? Mexico told Trump to take his tiny little hands and build it himself. Mighty gangster of them wouldn't you say? Mexico couldn't care less about Trump, you or a wall.

What a stupid idea and you must be one serious rock to think a wall is going to stop anyone who wants in. They have went over the wall and tunneled UNDER it for years. But maybe in that vast waste of space between your ears, you MISSED THOSE stories, huh? Yea, I thought so.

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... Instead of acting like someone pissed in your Wheaties,
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Talk about FAKE NEWS, show me where Obama promised to build a wal??? If you don't have any facts, make some up, right Trump Jr.?
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It was SUPPOSED to be MEXICO, REMEMBER? That's what your orange president claimed! But guess what? Mexico told Trump to take his tiny little hands and build it himself. Mighty gangster of them wouldn't you say? Mexico couldn't care less about Trump, you or a wall.

What a stupid idea and you must be one serious rock to think a wall is going to stop anyone who wants in. They have went over the wall and tunneled UNDER it for years. But maybe in that vast waste of space between your ears, you MISSED THOSE stories, huh? Yea, I thought so.



Talk about FAKE NEWS, show me where Obama promised to build a wal??? If you don't have any facts, make some up, right Trump Jr.?

You are funny when your butt hurts.
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You are funny when your butt hurts.
And you are even funnier when you get your pecker all stuck in it.

So who's paying for that wall again?
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And you are even funnier when you get your pecker all stuck in it.

So who's paying for that wall again?
Junk, maybe trump can get his buddies in Russia to build it, but first he's gotta make sure he isn't being bugged by Obama, OH WAIT, the FBI and NSA said trump lied, what a surprise.
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You posted that once already. Still waiting to hear about that MEXICAN GOVERNMENT bid that president orange roughy promised during his campaign. I am ALSO waiting on that proof of BS claim you made about Obama building a wall. You put out so much FAKE NEWS that you can't keep up with it yourself.

Maybe someone has "WIRE TAPP" (as president orange roughy put it), your computer?
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I am ALSO waiting on that proof of BS claim you made about Obama building a wall.
I didn't make any such claim, but a quick search yields this Boston Globe article from 2017:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...e9O/story.html

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As a senator, Barack Obama once offered measured praise for the border control legislation that would become the basis for one of Donald Trump’s first acts as president.

“The bill before us will certainly do some good,” Obama said on the Senate floor in October 2006. He praised the legislation, saying it would provide “better fences and better security along our borders” and would “help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country.”

Obama was talking about the Secure Fence Act of 2006, legislation authorizing a barrier along the southern border passed into law with the support of 26 Democratic senators including party leaders like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Chuck Schumer.

Now it’s become the legal mechanism for Trump to order construction of a wall between the United States and Mexico, attempting tomake good on a key promise from the campaign trail. Trump specifically cited the law in the first sentence of Wednesday’s executive order authorizing the wall.
I realize that the Boston Globe isn't a GOVERNMENT SOURCE, but you'll have to decide if you believe that liberal source or not.

You and Crazy sure do make it easy sometimes.

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Still waiting to hear about that MEXICAN GOVERNMENT bid that president orange roughy promised during his campaign.
Another easy pitch - thanks for making it so easy!

The way to get funding from Mexico to build the wall? A border adjustment tax.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.9d2f93bf54a6

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Supporters see it as a way for Trump to follow through on his campaign pledge to tax imports and support exports without resorting to tariffs that would provoke a massive global trade fight. Right now, more than 160 countries around the world have a “border adjusted” value-added tax (VAT). So unlike tariffs, a border adjustment should be able to pass muster with the World Trade Organization.

Here is where the wall comes in: As economist Martin Feldstein explains, the border adjustment would raise hundreds of billions in tax revenue — not from U.S. consumers or corporations, but from our foreign trading partners. Under the border adjustment, the United States would refund the tax on exports and charge it on imports — so the net revenue would be negative if we had a trade surplus, and positive if we had a trade deficit. Because the United States has a trade deficit, Feldstein calculates the border adjustment would bring in about $120 billion a year, or $1 trillion over a decade.

One of the countries with whom we have a large trade deficit is . . . Mexico. The U.S. trade deficit in goods with Mexico was $60.7 billion in 2015 and is expected to be around $65 billion in 2016. So if Mexican imports are taxed at a rate of 20 percent, the United States would raise about $13 billion a year in revenue from Mexico via the border adjustment.

How much will the wall cost? Trump has put the price at between $8 billion and $12 billion. Others have suggested it could be higher, between $15 billion and $25 billion. Either way, the full cost would be more than covered in one or two years by the $13 billion in annual revenues we would collect from Mexico. Indeed, over several years, the border adjustment could force Mexico to pay not only for the wall, but for the costs of a lot of Trump’s other border-security measures — from expediting the deportation of criminal aliens to hiring more screeners to conduct “extreme vetting.”

In other words, the border adjustment would allow Trump to keep two major campaign promises at once — he could tax imports and subsidize exports, while forcing Mexico to pay for the wall.

And here is the really brilliant part: There is nothing Mexico could do about it. Mexico might find ways to retaliate over specific measures targeting it — such as increased fees for visas or taxing remittances. But with the border adjustment, Mexico would have no recourse to complain, because such a measure is global in nature and would affect all U.S. trading partners equally. Plus, how could Mexico object when it is one of the 160 countries around that world that has a “border adjusted” VAT of its own?

So yes, thanks to the border adjustment, Donald Trump can indeed make Mexico pay for the BLEEP-ing wall. And Mexico would be powerless to stop him.
Now lets argue the merits instead of slinging mud at each other - unless that's all you got left.

And remember: He's just as much YOUR President as Former President Obama was.

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I didn't make any such claim, but a quick search yields this Boston Globe article from 2017:
Where did I quote or address that YOU made such a claim??? Also, your "proof" is as weak as watered down scotch. If you expect that to pass as proof, then I have another bridge for sale.
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... Now lets argue the merits instead of slinging mud at each other - unless that's all you got left.
How about this. Let's see Mexico pay for the construction of "the wall" like your president "orange roughy" claimed. Better yet, let's watch how many people go over and under that wall like it wasn't even there.... just as they have been doing since that wall was built.

Trump spewed all kinds of BS during his campaign and I can't believe that anyone with a brain would fall for it. But I'm a believer now. So where's Trump's "wire tapp" evidence? Twitter will be the death of his presidency.
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Junk, maybe trump can get his buddies in Russia to build it, but first he's gotta make sure he isn't being bugged by Obama, OH WAIT, the FBI and NSA said trump lied, what a surprise.
SHOCKING! Isn't it?
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