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Old 12-02-2009, 11:22 AM   #1
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OnStar Delete - 2009 C6 model is different

There is a long OnStar delete thread, but it has not been updated since Sept. and as the quote below shows, we need special help with the 2009 C6 models:

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I opened the front passenger panel (under glove) and found the VCIM. This is a 2009 c6.

The VCIM is very different looking from the ones you guys have posted pictures of here. It is so wedged in that I need to pull it out to get a good picture, I'll do that in the next day or so. In the meantime, though, I wanted to get it out that there are now 7 plugs in total (the four J1-J4, the antenna, another plug i cant identify and a sole lone connector that is in the shape of a J1-J4 and whose wire comes out of the same wire harness).

Has anyone fixed the VCIM on a 2009 yet? I don't believe anyone addressed this new type of VCIM. What is the 5th J-like connector? Is it needed, can it be jumped like the 4th? Are there any actual GM techs that might now this new VCIM configuration?

Your help in this would be very much appreciated.

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I'd like to remove the OnStar module completely.
As I understand it, one of the requirements to do this would be the need to loopback the serial data buss. Is there anyway to make a loopback that will plug into the correct 2009 connector?

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I shot a message over to Maven, hopefully he has a heads up on this.

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I couldn`t remove Onstar from my other GM cars but I disconnected the Microphone connector.
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2009-10 models in order to disable OnStar you would remove the natural plastic 16 way connector, it should have about a half dozen wires, among them a red/white one. Pulling this connector removes power and ground to the module, you can leave the other colored connectors on place.
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If you want to remove it, youll need to remove the nut and two screws that hold its bracket to the dash (behind glovebox) the nut is kind of striaght up from the floor and the two screws go into the A-pillar area.

If you remove it you would need to make a looping connector. Unless youre building a full out racecar Id just disconnect it and call that good.
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If you want to remove it, youll need to remove the nut and two screws that hold its bracket to the dash (behind glovebox) the nut is kind of striaght up from the floor and the two screws go into the A-pillar area.

If you remove it you would need to make a looping connector. Unless youre building a full out racecar Id just disconnect it and call that good.
I'd like to remove the OnStar module completely.
Do we need to loopback the serial data buss? If so, is there anyway to make a loopback that will plug into the correct 2009 connector?

I have two schematics that I've been told may help.



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Yes you can remove the module completely if you complete the GMLAN circuits, you need to attach the tan and tan/black wire to each other. wires in position 2&8 get connected and so do 3&9. Unless you cannibalize the VCIM there isnt a readily available connector to create a looping plug.

Easiest thing to do is gonna be to splice the wires together in the harness it self. I would remove the terminals from the connector and just use some high quality polyolefin heat shrink tube to secure them together, or you can physically splice the wires themselves together. Worst case you just use crimp together multiwire splices, just be sure to use quality ones.(not the generic blue plastic.
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I feel very I cannot find the OnStar VICM

I've pulled back the passenger floor mat and pulled down the passenger panel. There is the stereo amplifiler on the left, and directly in front is a fuse panel. I don't see the VCIM, much less any box with coax cables attached to it?
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I feel very I cannot find the OnStar VICM

I've pulled back the passenger floor mat and pulled down the passenger panel. There is the stereo amplifiler on the left, and directly in front is a fuse panel. I don't see the VCIM, much less any box with coax cables attached to it?
its not on the floor, its up in the dash, you have to remove the passenger side dash lower closeout panel to look up into the dash and see it.
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VCIM found and disconnected. Wow, it really is wedged into a corner. I had to remove the entire closeout panel because the small panel opening on the right is insufficient to really access the module.

It is far too cramped to work a splice. I disconnected the plug as suggested by Maven and all is well.

Thanks to everyone inc. Maven for the help!
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Any particular reason you all want to do this?
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Any particular reason you all want to do this?
Because we do not support a survelliance society?
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Because we do not support a survelliance society?
Oohh... you got big brother syndrome!

You may not know this but if the government really felt that you were important enough to watch, you would not have the slightest clue. Take it from someone who has worked for the government.

If they want to find you, you will be found.
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Thanks Maven for offering his help and great info

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