ZL1 put on the trailer by fords release of the info on the 2013 GT500!!! 200mph !

[JBsZ0666]

ZL1 put on the trailer by fords release of the info on the 2013 GT500!!! 200mph !

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I had the pleasure of driving in a guys 680hp edelbrock c6 today and believe me....this new 650 hp mustang from the factory will be BAD @@@@SSSS!! and I'm a CHEVY guy through and through...Ford did amazing work here!!!

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2013 Ford Shelby GT500 Debuts as Most Powerful Production V8 in the World with 650 Horsepower, Top Speed of 200+ MPH

• New Ford Shelby GT500 is powered by an aluminum 5.8-liter supercharged V8 producing 650 horsepower and 600 lb.-ft. of torque, making it the most powerful production V8 engine in the world

• Nearly every vehicle system has been optimized including powertrain, brakes, gearing and suspension

• New Shelby GT500 sets a performance-driven design standard with new downforce- generating front grilles, aggressive splitter, new quad exhaust system and two new forged-aluminum wheels

• Also new for 2013 is an optional Performance Package with SVT-designed Bilstein electronic adjustable dampers and a Torsen limited-slip differential. The offering can be coupled with a Track Package for all-out racetrack performance

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 15, 2011 – The ultimate Ford Mustang – Shelby GT500 – raises the bar high on performance with the introduction of the new 2013 model that goes on sale next year delivering 650 horsepower and a top speed of more than 200 mph.

"SVT keeps the Shelby GT500 on the cutting edge of technology and takes muscle car performance to new heights," said Jost Capito, director of Global Performance Vehicles and Motorsport Business Development. "We encapsulated every aspect of performance in this car – whether it's 0-60, top speed, racetrack or quarter-mile times. Beyond that, the daily driver also will find this car perfectly fits his or her needs."

The 5.8-liter V8 aluminum-block engine produces 650 horsepower and 600 lb.-ft. of torque, making it the most powerful production V8 in the world. The 3,850-pound car also stays exempt from the gas-guzzler tax.

Nearly every part of the powertrain has been optimized for producing the additional horsepower, including a new supercharger, new cross-drilled block and heads, updated camshaft profiles, a new carbon fiber driveshaft and upgraded clutch, transmission and axle.

A larger, more-efficient supercharger flowing more air through the engine is key to helping produce the massive 650 horsepower. The new TVS series 2300 creates 2.3 liters of displacement and is a unique design to the 5.8-liter engine.

The entire cooling system has been significantly updated on the new 5.8-liter engine. It now includes a larger cooling fan, fan shroud with high-speed pressure-relief doors, a more efficient charge air cooler, a higher-flow intercooler pump and an intercooler heat exchanger with volume increased 36 percent.

Revised gearing

Nearly every gear on the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 was revised to manage the torque and use more of the power in a way that makes it more driver-friendly. Engineers considered more than 35 gearing combinations, finally deciding on one that delivers less torque all the way through the wheels to the ground and still enables the car to achieve fuel economy targets.

A key piece of the driveline, the six-speed manual transmission, offers upgraded gears, bearings and housing so it can properly manage the torque. The final drive ratio is now 3.31:1 for optimized overall vehicle gearing to complement the massive torque. Every gear besides fourth was optimized for competing performance metrics. The clutch has increased torque and rpm capacity and uses a dual-disc design.

"It might just seem like we're putting a bigger engine into the car. But it's been a balanced approach through and through," said Jamal Hameedi, SVT chief engineer. "We've completely redone the car to be even more sophisticated in terms of handling and control than the prior model."

Other keys for improved traction management include:

• Torsen limited-slip differential: When customers order the optional Performance Package, they will get a Torsen limited-slip differential that helps the rear suspension deliver maximum torque and traction better and longer under track conditions

• Launch control: A new launch control system lets drivers set the desired launch rpm depending on tire temperature, street surface or other conditions. Unique to SVT's launch control is that it is integrated with both the engine control and traction control

• Brembo braking system: A new Brembo brake system offers drivers enhanced stopping power to help keep their car under control, both on the road and the track. New six-piston calipers in front along with larger front and rear rotors help improve brake fade. New brake pads that are more aggressive also help the car achieve high deceleration and further robustness for more driver confidence

Aero advancements

Significant aerodynamic work was done on the new Shelby GT500 to ensure the car has proper downforce for optimum performance at all speeds. Engineers were able to determine how to harness the air that was moving around and through the car to improve the cooling system, maximize downforce and minimize drag.

The front fascia and splitters were modified to handle the extreme loads at 200 mph, resulting in a car that tracks more securely and feels more planted to the road at higher speeds. It offers 33 percent more effective aero loading at 160 mph compared to the 2011 model.

Superior ride

The new Shelby GT500's driving dynamics have been improved, now working in concert with all the new content on the car.

Handling, all AdvanceTrac settings and steering assist levels within selectable steering have been tuned to account for the updated content. The previously available unique traction control system and electronic stability control settings help drivers achieve maximum performance on both the street and the track.

Both systems can be completely disabled in controlled track situations where maximum driver skill is utilized, or fully engaged for maximum safety during normal driving or in less-than-ideal traction conditions. Intermediate sport mode allows drivers to push their cars hard at the track without completely disabling the safety systems, permitting more aggressive driving before the traction control and electronic stability control intervene.

"We took a completely different approach with this car so drivers can choose their settings instead of a computer making the selection," Hameedi said. "Nearly every system the driver interacts with can be tailored to his or her situation including the Bilstein electronic adjustable suspension, launch control, AdvanceTrac and steering assist levels."

The 2013 Shelby GT500 offers two new sets of forged-aluminum wheels including a unique wheel for cars with the optional packages. The 19-inch front and 20-inch rear wheels are coupled with Goodyear Eagle® F1 SuperCar G: 2 tires on all vehicle configurations.

Taking it one step further

Sometimes Ford Shelby GT500 customers want to enjoy their car on surface streets. Other times they just want to let loose on the track. Two new optional packages on the 2013 model give them the choice.

Available as part of the optional Performance Package, SVT-designed Bilstein electronic adjustable dampers are accessed on the dash with a simple push of a button. Normal mode gives customers a more comfortable ride over road irregularities. Sport mode is all about performance, delivering improved response time on the track and less body roll while cornering and pitch under braking. The Torsen limited-slip differential also comes with the Performance Package.

"The adjustable shocks let us develop our car on the track without any compromise," said Kerry Baldori, Ford SVT Global Performance Vehicles chief engineer. "Before, we had to tune the car with street implications in mind. Now we can go as extreme as we want on the track setting and still offer the customer a comfortable ride on the road."

Enthusiasts can upgrade their Performance Package with an additional Track Package for all-out performance. The option comes with an external engine oil cooler, rear differential cooler and transmission cooler for further durability. The coolers play an essential role in preventing crucial components from overheating under high-speed conditions.
The 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 will be built at AutoAlliance International Plant in Flat Rock, Mich.

[KingC6]

i really hope Ford changed the suspension on the 2013's. i just sold my 2011 shelby and it was sketchy going over 140, there is no way i would go 200. The car just wasnt stable at that speed.

[rj-92]

Originally Posted by KingC6

i really hope Ford changed the suspension on the 2013's. i just sold my 2011 shelby and it was sketchy going over 140, there is no way i would go 200. The car just wasnt stable at that speed.

Apparently that's been addressed as well. The problem isn't so much the suspension as it is areo lift. the areodynamics have been revised to provide 33% less lift in the front at speeds 150+

Looks like Ford went all out with this one. I'm guessing a $85k price tag.

[Upheval]

I want to see some numbers first before I change my mind. According to the specs, they are using the same tires as they used on the 2012 but different gearing. Cant wait for the mags to come out!

[Vettefan34]

I have no doubt it will be very impressive as far as numbers. I however see no way it will crest the 200 mph marker. The ZR1 is Certainly more aerodynamic and pulls around 700 less pounds of weight and it is fairly Drag limited to a shade over 200 mph.

But yeah it's sad for the ZL1 that keeps getting bested and hasn't been released yet!

Vette needs some domestic competition too... Bring back the FORD GT!

[JBsZ0666]

Ewanick publicly challenges Farley to a Camaro vs Mustang duel!

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From Jalopnik:


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Muscle Car Fight, Ford Takes Bat, Goes Home
After Ford brought out its potentially ZL1-killing 650-horsepower 2013 Shelby GT500, Joel Ewanick, global vice president of GM marketing, decided to drop the gauntlet down at the feet of Ford. "We should take a Camaro, Ford brings a Mustang, we each pick our drivers, and see who has the best time on the Nürburgring," Ewanick said to Scott Burgess of the Detroit News. Jim Farley, who heads Ford's global marketing, wasn't taking the bait despite professed claims to a desire to "take a bat" to Chevrolet. "I wish we could," he said, after hearing about Ewanick's challenge. "Who wouldn't want to do that?" Huh. Sounds to us like maybe Ford's chicken. Hey, Farley — bawk-bawk-bawk-BA-kawk!

[Upheval]

Originally Posted by JBsZ0666

Ewanick publicly challenges Farley to a Camaro vs Mustang duel!

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From Jalopnik:


Quote:
Muscle Car Fight, Ford Takes Bat, Goes Home
After Ford brought out its potentially ZL1-killing 650-horsepower 2013 Shelby GT500, Joel Ewanick, global vice president of GM marketing, decided to drop the gauntlet down at the feet of Ford. "We should take a Camaro, Ford brings a Mustang, we each pick our drivers, and see who has the best time on the Nürburgring," Ewanick said to Scott Burgess of the Detroit News. Jim Farley, who heads Ford's global marketing, wasn't taking the bait despite professed claims to a desire to "take a bat" to Chevrolet. "I wish we could," he said, after hearing about Ewanick's challenge. "Who wouldn't want to do that?" Huh. Sounds to us like maybe Ford's chicken. Hey, Farley — bawk-bawk-bawk-BA-kawk!

Ya so much the 1 up by Ford. Looks like they cant back product.

[bdevault01]

It doesn't really matter how much horsepower they put in a Mustang. It will never be able to hook up until they redesign the suspension.

You could park a freakin' Expedition on top of that car and it still won't be able to hook up.

Every Mustang I've ever been in or driven is fun, because it's a tire burner, but fast, not so much.

The reason they rank so high in the Motor Trend, Automobile, and Car and Driver test is because they are a blast to drive. Anything that goes sideways around every corner is a lot of fun to drive (in a controlled environment).

[Dan85Vette]

Originally Posted by bdevault01

Every Mustang I've ever been in or driven is fun, because it's a tire burner, but fast, not so much.

Exactly why the Boss 302 is turning so many heads in recent comparisons. The suspension and brakes are finally getting attention.

[walleyfisher]

Originally Posted by Dan85Vette

Exactly why the Boss 302 is turning so many heads in recent comparisons. The suspension and brakes are finally getting attention.

Sounds like the Corvette ZR1 might need an upgrade in 2014 so the Camaro ZL1 can be upgraded too

All the TV shows bragging about the ZR1 vs (some other super car) the ZR1 cannot put the horse power to the road without smoldering the rear tires

[JBsZ0666]

Lets face it..Farely backed down quick...as he knows the GM team did a full development as only GM can..

The ZL1 is the total pony car package..

For instance the Camaro ZL1 has 24 more ponies the CTS V that lapped the ring as the fastest four door sedan under a hundred grand at 7.58 and thats dam fast..

The new ZL1 with a fully developed program ran that track in 7.41...

That 18 second improvement over the already impressive CTS V is because GM doesn't half bake their top of the line performance products...like Ford did with the 650hp announcement of the GT500..

The GT500 is a paper tiger.. compared to the ZL1...

of course I'm gm biased!!! I drive a corvette and once you own one of these cars..you know...GM rules!

Farley shouldn't have backed off but rather accepted the Ewanicks challenge.. to run the cars at the ring for fastest times and real bragging rights...

[bdevault01]

Those are spec numbers anyway, the car is realistically a year away from now. Who knows what it ends up being, but....

I would bet a whole lot of money that the car doesn't run over 200 Mph. I don't think Ford engineering even knows what it means to build a production car with a top speed over 200mph.

The 200 mph club is very exclusive. Look at the engineering on the production cars that have been able to achieve that speed.

Lamborghini
Bugatti
ZR1

Throwing 650+ HP into a mustang is no substitute for the engineering it takes to consistently perform in the class of cars above.

Hell, even the BEST road tests for the 2005 Ford GT's went a tick over 200 (200.1mph) in actual testing.

[BadBlackVett]

Ford isn't willing to lose it's support by matching the Camaro and losing. Hate to say it but GM has been sucking hind tit for years in the pony car war. If Ford loses all of the wanna be's will switch sides to have a Camaro.

I drive a Crown Vic and it's scary at 120. I can only imagine the Mustang at 200. If it can.

[HardcoreABN]

let us not forget, there are other aspects of this as well that are not reflected in the hp. people who are not brand loyal will look at egronomics, reliability, perf parts avail, ease of modification, ect.

You can't beat a LSX for ease of making power, reliability, ease of modification, tune friendly, ect.

plus, neither car is available yet so anything can happen. I also don't see gm letting the zl1 staying behind the new gt500

[Patrick]

Sure tugs on my strings... the Ford GT is cool, because they took chances... an updated one could be sick. Could make the new Corvette look as boring as a Malibu.