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Old 11-11-2012, 08:16 AM   #1
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borgeson steering box?

Is this the borgeson steering box?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380358000388...84.m1436.l2649
Comes with the hoses and machined to fit shaft.
What does it take to shorten the steering column 1-2 inches?
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Looks like a borgeson steering box.
Still, I know that borgeson blueprint them upon rebuild, did they do the same to theirs? I don't know.
What bugs me is that the auction list it for '69-'72.
Those are supposed to fit ANY C3.
Shortening the steering shaft is just a question on gently tapping on the shaft to make is collapse a bit, no biggie.
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Looks like a borgeson steering box.
Still, I know that borgeson blueprint them upon rebuild, did they do the same to theirs? I don't know.
What bugs me is that the auction list it for '69-'72.
Those are supposed to fit ANY C3.
Shortening the steering shaft is just a question on gently tapping on the shaft to make is collapse a bit, no biggie.
Thanks Denpo,
That's what I needed to know on the steering column, pulling it out is one more project I don't need right now.
It does say in the auction description that it'll fit 63 to 82 cars ...I hate it when the listing header and the descriptions don't match.
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Thanks Denpo,
That's what I needed to know on the steering column, pulling it out is one more project I don't need right now.
It does say in the auction description that it'll fit 63 to 82 cars ...I hate it when the listing header and the descriptions don't match.
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One detail I just see now, the input shaft is different from the Borgeson's. Borgeson's is a 3/4 double D, hence the need to provide their own ragjoint. This one seem to be make to accept the stock ragjoint.
By the way, are you keeping the rag joint or switch to U-joint?
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You're welcome.
One detail I just see now, the input shaft is different from the Borgeson's. Borgeson's is a 3/4 double D, hence the need to provide their own ragjoint. This one seem to be make to accept the stock ragjoint.
By the way, are you keeping the rag joint or switch to U-joint?
What's involved in switching to a u joint?
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What's involved in switching to a u joint?
a U-joint
Check Borgeson's website, you'll see what kind are those.
They are rather standard part, available in car part stores.
Just find the one that match the shape/size of you shafts.
You get tighter steering but also more vibration.
FYI : Borgeson vs CPP
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What is your reason for not rebuilding/blueprinting the original steering box?
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What is your reason for not rebuilding/blueprinting the original steering box?
Just wanted to clean up and simplify. The afterthought add on power steering control valve and cylinder just seems like a patch solution to me. And this front end is all apart right now and would be the time to make it better. But I'd value your thoughts on this.
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To be honest...Yours is the best answer I could think of for changing.
I do not have power steering on my '69 or power anything for that matter. Except for what's under the hood of course,but I have never cared for the factory set-up to provide a power assist in the C-3. I think the Borgeson system is the best solution short of going with R&P which I would consider if I were in your particular situation.
Again...Take my opinion for what it's worth coming from a guy with manual steering brought up to,and beyond,par with a box rebuilt and blueprinted by Gary. With all the other steering components replaced,I am happy with the system I have.
Good luck with what ever direction you choose to take!
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i notice that the CPP part number is the same as the Borgeson PN, 800108. coincidence? also, the same price. i wonder if CPP is sourcing it from Borgeson?

if so, then i wonder about the input shaft difference...
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i notice that the CPP part number is the same as the Borgeson PN, 800108. coincidence? also, the same price. i wonder if CPP is sourcing it from Borgeson?

if so, then i wonder about the input shaft difference...
I asked the CPP guy and he said his WAS a Borgeson...
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