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Old 01-20-2013, 02:34 AM   #1
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5 accidentally shot at gun shows in North Carolina, Ohio, Indiana



Five people were wounded in accidents at gun shows in North Carolina, Ohio and Indiana on Saturday, according to authorities.


In Raleigh, N.C., authorities said three people were wounded when a loaded shotgun accidentally discharged at the Dixie Gun and Knife Show at the N.C. State Fairgrounds.

Officials say Gary Lynn Wilson, 36, was having his shotgun checked before entering the show when the incident happened. He was unzipping his 12-gauge shotgun's case when it accidentally fired birdshot pellets, hitting three people, The News & Observer in Raleigh reported. Wilson was planning on privately selling the gun at the show, according to NBC affiliate WNCN.


The three victims, Janet Hoover, Linwood Hester and Jake Alderman, were hit, respectively, in the right torso, left hand and right hand, WNCN reported. They were taken to the hospital for non-life threatening injuries.

Witness Daniel Peadan told WNCN he was about to enter the building, when he heard a loud pop: "The people right there at the door, a lot of them ran ... They scattered because it was chaotic."

"This was an accidental discharge," said Brian Long, a spokesman for the North Carolina Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services, in a statement.

The show closed early Saturday because of the shooting, according to The News & Observer. When the show reopens Sunday private gun sales will not be permitted, but only sales by licensed dealers at the show are allowed, Long said. By Saturday evening, the event's website clearly stipulated: "No personal firearms are to be brought into the show."

The Wake County Sheriff's Department is investigating Saturday's incident, and it's not clear yet whether there are pending charges, according to Long.

In Medina, Ohio, an exhibitor at a local gun show was opening a box containing a gun when the weapon went off, striking his partner, who was sitting next to him, NBC station WKYC of Cleveland reported.

The victim suffered non-life threatening injuries in the arm and thigh and was taken to a hospital.

Police told WKYC the shooting was accidental, and a man who attended the show had sold that gun to the exhibitor.

In Indianapolis, state police said a 54-year-old man was loading his .45 caliber semi-automatic gun when he shot himself in the hand, The Associated Press reported. The victim, Emory L. Cozee, had been leaving the Indy 1500 Gun and Knife show at the state fairgrounds, officials told the AP. Loaded personal weapons are not permitted inside this show, according to the AP.

Cozee was hospitalized. Police told the AP no charges will be filed and the shooting was accidental.

These incidents all happened on the first "National Gun Appreciation Day," which was organized by Political Media, a Republican consulting firm.

In Raleigh, police say around 200 gun-rights supporters marched around the legislative building in downtown Raleigh on Saturday, The News & Observer reported.

Across the country Saturday, there were similar rallies by gun-rights advocates. In Brooksville, Fla., about 1,000 people gathered holding signs like "Stop the Gun Grabbers," Reuters reported. In Denver, just miles away from the scene of the July 2012 movie theater massacre, about 500 people were outside the state capitol rallying, according to Reuters.

The attack on an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., that left 20 first-graders and six staffers dead in December has sparked a new debate over gun control. Last week, President Barack Obama proposed new gun controls to reduce violence.

Firearms expert Greg A. Danas told NBC News while it's up to a gun show owner to determine safety rules, he recommends measures like inspecting guns and ensuring firing pins are disabled.

"Even people with the best intentions, screw up, occasionally make mistakes," Danas said.
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All of these incidents made the major news stations, but I never see them showing any of the (positive) stories where people protected themselves and others from criminals.

There is a definite bias.
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All of these incidents made the major news stations, but I never see them showing any of the (positive) stories where people protected themselves and others from criminals.

There is a definite bias.
You right and after this I will only look for the positive. I posted this out of irratation. Not only is the media on hyper gun alert but for people to make these dumb ass mistakes is just what we needed. Basic gun safety is to check the status of the weapon when it is in your hands. Stupid mistakes like these cost lives not to mention the crappy media attention this causes.
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He was unzipping his 12-gauge shotgun's case when it accidentally fired birdshot pellets, hitting three people,
He sounds like a real brain surgeon..... How does one forget to unload his shotgun before bringing it to the show to sell?


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In Medina, Ohio, an exhibitor at a local gun show was opening a box containing a gun when the weapon went off, striking his partner, who was sitting next to him, NBC station WKYC of Cleveland reported.
Another genius..... guns don't just "go off" without the trigger being pulled either on purpose of by a careless self proclimaed "expert".

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Dumb ass
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Well I had a choice to make this week end. The inauguration, MLK Birthday, or National Gun Appreciation Day. So I made the intelligent decision. We went to the gun show.
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Well I had a choice to make this week end. The inauguration, MLK Birthday, or National Gun Appreciation Day. So I made the intelligent decision. We went to the gun show.
Yeah, the hell with bam bam bama.
When The sheep wake up and realize they are really dead because bam bam tortured and killed them too .........ah fuck,
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Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!, some common sense prevails. The only solution to school shooting problem!!!

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Not to fire up the gun crowd, but this story does make the point that having lots of firearms out there doesn't automatically make everyone safer. There are thousands of accidents like this every year, including many fatal ones. I'm all for gun ownership and CCL, etc. But the dirty little secret is that while there may be a considerable upside, there is also a downside, and I haven't seen anyone quantify that through quality study to know which side wins. If I were going to guess, I would guess more people are killed/injured every year by legal guns in accidents than criminals confronted with a legal weapon to deter them.
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Not to fire up the gun crowd, but this story does make the point that having lots of firearms out there doesn't automatically make everyone safer. There are thousands of accidents like this every year, including many fatal ones. I'm all for gun ownership and CCL, etc. But the dirty little secret is that while there may be a considerable upside, there is also a downside, and I haven't seen anyone quantify that through quality study to know which side wins. If I were going to guess, I would guess more people are killed/injured every year by legal guns in accidents than criminals confronted with a legal weapon to deter them.
I'm not sure I agree.
The problem here is mouth breathers with no common sense. Mandatory gun training for all functioning gun owners is the answer.
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I'm not sure I agree.
The problem here is mouth breathers with no common sense. Mandatory gun training for all functioning gun owners is the answer.
While training would be helpful, it won't prevent this kinda stuff from happening. Folks had to pass a few tests to get their driver's license, right? Surely doesnt prevent dumbassedness from happening.
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While training would be helpful, it won't prevent this kinda stuff from happening. Folks had to pass a few tests to get their driver's license, right? Surely doesnt prevent dumbassedness from happening.
Nothing can be prevented 100%, but it can help.

Do you suggest an IQ test prior to gun ownership???
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Not to fire up the gun crowd, but this story does make the point that having lots of firearms out there doesn't automatically make everyone safer. There are thousands of accidents like this every year, including many fatal ones. I'm all for gun ownership and CCL, etc. But the dirty little secret is that while there may be a considerable upside, there is also a downside, and I haven't seen anyone quantify that through quality study to know which side wins. If I were going to guess, I would guess more people are killed/injured every year by legal guns in accidents than criminals confronted with a legal weapon to deter them.
I don't think it's a secret people accidentally die from guns every year. They accidentally die in dentist chairs too, and there is no constitutional amendment that guarantees dentist the right to practice on people.

But, let's go ahead and throw the facts out there for the sheep to graze on and of course, ignore.

Top Five:

5. Choking (Approximately 2,500 deaths per year)
4. Fires (2,700 annual deaths)
3. Falls (25,000 annual deaths)
2. Poisoning (39,000 annual deaths)
1. Motor Vehicle Incidents (42,000 annual deaths)

And for shits and giggles (mainly for those moderate right wingers who feel that by compromising their own, and the rights of others somehow make them superior beings )

Postscript: Accidental Shootings (600 annual deaths)

Kids and guns donít mix, especially when those guns are carelessly left in unlocked cabinets or even in plain view. Accidental shootings resulted in 642 deaths in 2009, placing them seventh on this list. Firearms are the second-leading cause of non-natural deaths for kids, typically from a gun the kid finds somewhere around the house, according to a University of Utah report that mentioned additional horrific statistics. About two-thirds of accidental shooting deaths happen in the home, with the kid shooting himself to death in 45 percent of the cases and friends or family members pulling the trigger in the remainder. More than 50 percent of American households have a gun in the house, and, in one survey of evidently careless families, 10 percent said they had loaded firearms in unlocked locations that were easily accessible to kids. There is obviously a need to keep guns in locked, inaccessible and child-resistant locations and store them unloaded.

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While training would be helpful, it won't prevent this kinda stuff from happening. Folks had to pass a few tests to get their driver's license, right? Surely doesnt prevent dumbassedness from happening.
Yup. The problem is in the sheer numbers. If millions of people are carrying, it is certain that many - at least thousands - will be irresponsible with their ownership and even their carrying. That's not to say that a responsible person can't help himself and society by carrying. But unfortunately, there is no large group of people with 100% responsible people in it.
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So, now we know there were 642 accidental gun deaths in 2009 (contrary to the stated "thousands"). So let's say 50% of US households have a gun, roughly 150 million people, probably 350 million private guns.

So let's do the math: 350 million guns, 642 deaths.. do I really need to put this into formula form for anyone to get it?
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So, now we know there were 642 accidental gun deaths in 2009 (contrary to the stated "thousands"). So let's say 50% of US households have a gun, roughly 150 million people, probably 350 million private guns.

So let's do the math: 350 million guns, 642 deaths.. do I really need to put this into formula form for anyone to get it?
I'm not strictly talking about "accidental" deaths. I'm talking about irresponsible gun use by legal gun owners. Ther are over 10,000 gun related homicides every year. Do you suppose some (maybe most) of those are caused by people who are not criminals per se - ordinary people who legally own a gun, but in a moment of passion or depression or whatever, use the gun on someone else? Again, don't confuse me with an anti-gun person. I am just an analytical person who understands that gun ownership has both pros and cons, and I think the cons are worth mentioning when talking about the glories of an armed society.
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