Armed Guard Stops School Shooter Who Shot Classmates - Corvette Forum : DigitalCorvettes.com Corvette Forums
 
 
Go Back   Corvette Forum : DigitalCorvettes.com Corvette Forums > Other Discussions/Topics > News Room
Register Forums Garage Garage Mark Forums Read Auto EscrowInsurance

Notices

News Room This section is for discussing current events.

Shops/Tuners
Custom Image Corvettes
A&A Corvette
Corvette tuner

Interior
Corvette aftermarket products

Insurance

Parts & Products
Race Ramps
Edelbrock
ATI/Procharger
Corvetteguys.com
Melrose Motorsports
Parts Taxi
Airaid
Mid America Motorworks
Pfadt Racing
Madvette Motorsports
Hi-tech Custom Concepts
Corvette aftermarket products
Corvette Garage
Corvette Parts and Accessories
Corvette Car Care Products
Corvette HID
Mid America Motoroworks

Tracks/Schools
Bob Bondurant School of High Performance Driving
Corvette driving school

Wheels/Tires
Cray Wheels

Services
BADWERKS.com
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-01-2013, 06:01 AM   #1
Vette_Newb
The Copy/Paste King
 
Vette_Newb's Avatar
 
Posts: 26,062
Member #6180
Member since: Dec 2003
Location: In The Sticks

My Corvette(s)
1989 L98 Coupe

Thanks: 433
Thanked 390 Times in 305 Posts
Armed Guard Stops School Shooter Who Shot Classmates

"Best way to stop a man with a gun, is a man with a gun".

Atlanta ē A student opened fire at his middle school Thursday afternoon, wounding a 14-year-old in the neck before an armed officer working at the school was able to get the gun away, police said.

Multiple shots were fired in the courtyard of Price Middle School just south of downtown around 1:50 p.m. and the one boy was hit, Atlanta Police Chief George Turner said. In the aftermath, a teacher received minor cuts, he said.

The wounded boy was taken "alert, conscious and breathing" to Grady Memorial Hospital, said police spokesman Carlos Campos. He was expected to be released Thursday night.

Police swarmed the school of about 400 students after reports of the shooting while a crowd of anxious parents gathered in the streets, awaiting word on their children. Students were kept at the locked-down school for more than two hours before being dismissed.

Investigators believe the shooting was not random and that something occurred between the two students that may have led to it.

Schools Superintendent Erroll Davis said the school does have metal detectors.

"The obvious question is how did this get past a metal detector?" Davis asked about the gun. "Thatís something we do not know yet."

The armed resource officer who took the gun away was off-duty and at the school, but police didnít release details on him or whether he is regularly at Price. Since 20 children and six adults were shot to death at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut in December, calls for armed officers in every school have resonated across the country.

Hours after the Atlanta shooting, several school buses loaded with children pulled away from the school and stopped in front of a church about a half-block away. Parents tried boarding the buses. Police who initially tried to stop the parents, relented and screamed, "Let them off!" about the students.

James Bolton was at work when his sister called saying a teen had been shot at his sonís school and was in the crowd as parents began swarming the fleet of buses.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/5...-says.html.csp
Vette_Newb is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
Fascism is a religion of the state. It assumes the organic unity of the body politic and longs for a national leader attuned to the will of the people. It is totalitarian in that it views everything as political and holds that any action by the state is justified to achieve the common good. It takes responsibility for all aspects of life, including our health and well-being, and seeks to impose uniformity of thought and action, whether by force or through regulation and social pressure. Everything, including economy and religion, must be aligned with its objectives.
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 02-01-2013, 07:24 AM   #2
blckslvr79
 
blckslvr79's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,959
Member #67576
Member since: Nov 2007
Location: Schererville, IN

My Corvette(s)
1979 L82 4speed

Thanks: 799
Thanked 268 Times in 225 Posts
blckslvr79 is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
I'm taking care of my procrastination issues, just you wait and see.
Old 02-01-2013, 10:00 AM   #3
XQIZT
You've been pimped!!
 
XQIZT's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,769
Member #80197
Member since: Jan 2009
Location: Orlando, FL

My Corvette(s)
1985 Z51, 1977 custom

Thanks: 26
Thanked 181 Times in 155 Posts
Yay...hurray...Ya know what I DON'T see in this article...and maybe there is more to this...But what I don't see is this:
1) Confirmation that the "armed guard" actually used his gun to disarm the student. Coulda been that this kid was just unlucky enough to pull this stunt with the guard behind him/nearby. Certainly if the student had been shot, that would have been included in the article.
2) Does this school regularly have armed guards? If so, that fact doesn't seem to deter students from bringing guns anyway.

I'm not saying that armed guards aren't part of the solution, but I think people have unrealistic expectations about how effective it will be.
XQIZT is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
"Alexa" - 1985 Z51 - In memory of the last Corvette Dad owned.

"Desiree" - 1977 - Wife's car, with an attitude problem

Click here for more info about our cars and autocrossing and other Corvette stuff.
Old 02-01-2013, 10:06 AM   #4
Junkman2008
DC Pit Crew Boss
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Posts: 25,242
Member #71977
Member since: Apr 2008
Location: Louisville, KY

My Corvette(s)
2001 Navy Blue Metallic Coupe

Thanks: 170
Thanked 539 Times in 424 Posts
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by XQIZT View Post
Yay...hurray...Ya know what I DON'T see in this article...and maybe there is more to this...But what I don't see is this:
1) Confirmation that the "armed guard" actually used his gun to disarm the student. Coulda been that this kid was just unlucky enough to pull this stunt with the guard behind him/nearby. Certainly if the student had been shot, that would have been included in the article.
That was the EXACT passage that I was looking for! I'm all for armed police or even teachers in school but this article proves nothing to justify that.
Junkman2008 is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."
Old 02-01-2013, 10:39 AM   #5
blckslvr79
 
blckslvr79's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,959
Member #67576
Member since: Nov 2007
Location: Schererville, IN

My Corvette(s)
1979 L82 4speed

Thanks: 799
Thanked 268 Times in 225 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by XQIZT View Post
Yay...hurray...Ya know what I DON'T see in this article...and maybe there is more to this...But what I don't see is this:
1) Confirmation that the "armed guard" actually used his gun to disarm the student. Coulda been that this kid was just unlucky enough to pull this stunt with the guard behind him/nearby. Certainly if the student had been shot, that would have been included in the article.
2) Does this school regularly have armed guards? If so, that fact doesn't seem to deter students from bringing guns anyway.

I'm not saying that armed guards aren't part of the solution, but I think people have unrealistic expectations about how effective it will be.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkman2008 View Post
That was the EXACT passage that I was looking for! I'm all for armed police or even teachers in school but this article proves nothing to justify that.
What a couple of glass half empty kind of guys you two are.

It could rain after a drought and you two would complain about the mud.
blckslvr79 is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
I'm taking care of my procrastination issues, just you wait and see.
Old 02-01-2013, 10:47 AM   #6
XQIZT
You've been pimped!!
 
XQIZT's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,769
Member #80197
Member since: Jan 2009
Location: Orlando, FL

My Corvette(s)
1985 Z51, 1977 custom

Thanks: 26
Thanked 181 Times in 155 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by blckslvr79 View Post
What a couple of glass half empty kind of guys you two are.

It could rain after a drought and you two would complain about the mud.
That's not it at all. I have a problem when there is an attempt to justify something with something unrelated.

Take it to the absurd: A crossdressing chainsaw juggler helps a little ol' lady get her cat out of a tree. Certainly no one would attempt to say that we gotta raid our wives closet in order to be a a good Samaritan, even though the guy/girl also had access to a tool that might be helpful in rescuing Whiskers from the oak tree.
XQIZT is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
"Alexa" - 1985 Z51 - In memory of the last Corvette Dad owned.

"Desiree" - 1977 - Wife's car, with an attitude problem

Click here for more info about our cars and autocrossing and other Corvette stuff.
Old 02-01-2013, 10:53 AM   #7
Junkman2008
DC Pit Crew Boss
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Posts: 25,242
Member #71977
Member since: Apr 2008
Location: Louisville, KY

My Corvette(s)
2001 Navy Blue Metallic Coupe

Thanks: 170
Thanked 539 Times in 424 Posts
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by xqizt View Post
that's not it at all. I have a problem when there is an attempt to justify something with something unrelated.

Take it to the absurd: A crossdressing chainsaw juggler helps a little ol' lady get her cat out of a tree. Certainly no one would attempt to say that we gotta raid our wives closet in order to be a a good samaritan, even though the guy/girl also had access to a tool that might be helpful in rescuing whiskers from the oak tree.
bingo.
Junkman2008 is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."
Old 02-01-2013, 10:56 AM   #8
92Roadster
 
Posts: 11,227
Member #36181
Member since: Jun 2005

Thanks: 321
Thanked 334 Times in 219 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by blckslvr79 View Post
What a couple of glass half empty kind of guys you two are.

It could rain after a drought and you two would complain about the mud.
...come on now, you have to agree with "XQIZT" and "JunkMan"
he never used his weapon to disarm the shooter per the article......

...even farmers complain about the mud after a dry spell....
92Roadster is offline   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-01-2013, 10:57 AM   #9
Junkman2008
DC Pit Crew Boss
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Posts: 25,242
Member #71977
Member since: Apr 2008
Location: Louisville, KY

My Corvette(s)
2001 Navy Blue Metallic Coupe

Thanks: 170
Thanked 539 Times in 424 Posts
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by XQIZT View Post
That's not it at all. I have a problem when there is an attempt to justify something with something unrelated.
That's called "AGENDA".
Junkman2008 is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."
Old 02-01-2013, 11:05 AM   #10
blckslvr79
 
blckslvr79's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,959
Member #67576
Member since: Nov 2007
Location: Schererville, IN

My Corvette(s)
1979 L82 4speed

Thanks: 799
Thanked 268 Times in 225 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by XQIZT View Post
That's not it at all. I have a problem when there is an attempt to justify something with something unrelated.

Take it to the absurd: A crossdressing chainsaw juggler helps a little ol' lady get her cat out of a tree. Certainly no one would attempt to say that we gotta raid our wives closet in order to be a a good Samaritan, even though the guy/girl also had access to a tool that might be helpful in rescuing Whiskers from the oak tree.
That's understandable, but I saw no report either way. So you are arguing unproved facts as much as the article.



blckslvr79 is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
I'm taking care of my procrastination issues, just you wait and see.
Old 02-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #11
blckslvr79
 
blckslvr79's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,959
Member #67576
Member since: Nov 2007
Location: Schererville, IN

My Corvette(s)
1979 L82 4speed

Thanks: 799
Thanked 268 Times in 225 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 92Roadster View Post
...come on now, you have to agree with "XQIZT" and "JunkMan"
he never used his weapon to disarm the shooter per the article......

...even farmers complain about the mud after a dry spell....
Did the article specifically state that he did not use his weapon? Just saying.
blckslvr79 is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
I'm taking care of my procrastination issues, just you wait and see.
Old 02-01-2013, 11:08 AM   #12
XQIZT
You've been pimped!!
 
XQIZT's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,769
Member #80197
Member since: Jan 2009
Location: Orlando, FL

My Corvette(s)
1985 Z51, 1977 custom

Thanks: 26
Thanked 181 Times in 155 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by blckslvr79 View Post
That's understandable, but I saw no report either way. So you are arguing unproved facts as much as the article.



Uhhh...sorta...except that the Article title is "armed guard....." even though the fact that he was armed may have had NOTHING to do with the end result.

I'm simply asking for more information. And I've said before that I don't mind armed guards, but it has to be done smart and effective. We already talked about the fact that having an AR15 locked away in an office in in a patrol car ain't gonna do much since there would be so much lag time in getting the firepower to the firefight.
XQIZT is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
"Alexa" - 1985 Z51 - In memory of the last Corvette Dad owned.

"Desiree" - 1977 - Wife's car, with an attitude problem

Click here for more info about our cars and autocrossing and other Corvette stuff.
Old 02-01-2013, 11:10 AM   #13
XQIZT
You've been pimped!!
 
XQIZT's Avatar
 
Posts: 12,769
Member #80197
Member since: Jan 2009
Location: Orlando, FL

My Corvette(s)
1985 Z51, 1977 custom

Thanks: 26
Thanked 181 Times in 155 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by blckslvr79 View Post
Did the article specifically state that he did not use his weapon? Just saying.
No...and whats what I am asking. You could be damn sure that if the guard FIRED his weapon that there would be some mention of a mini "OK Corral" type situation. Right?
XQIZT is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
"Alexa" - 1985 Z51 - In memory of the last Corvette Dad owned.

"Desiree" - 1977 - Wife's car, with an attitude problem

Click here for more info about our cars and autocrossing and other Corvette stuff.
Old 02-01-2013, 11:10 AM   #14
Bill Davies
DC Crew
 
Bill Davies's Avatar
 
Posts: 857
Member #118694
Member since: Apr 2012
Location: Colorado Springs, CO

My Corvette(s)
1976

Thanks: 14
Thanked 22 Times in 19 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by XQIZT View Post
Yay...hurray...Ya know what I DON'T see in this article...and maybe there is more to this...But what I don't see is this:
1) Confirmation that the "armed guard" actually used his gun to disarm the student. Coulda been that this kid was just unlucky enough to pull this stunt with the guard behind him/nearby. Certainly if the student had been shot, that would have been included in the article.
2) Does this school regularly have armed guards? If so, that fact doesn't seem to deter students from bringing guns anyway.

I'm not saying that armed guards aren't part of the solution, but I think people have unrealistic expectations about how effective it will be.
I do see your point, in that it would have been a stronger anecdotal story for the "Armed guards in school" camp if the article had stated the officer had to use his gun. And I'm not saying it would be a "better" story, just stronger for the argument.

However, the fact remains that a trained (and armed) guard disarmed the shooter. And the fact remains that it is a good thing he was there to do so.
Bill Davies is offline   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-01-2013, 11:15 AM   #15
Vette_Newb
The Copy/Paste King
 
Vette_Newb's Avatar
 
Posts: 26,062
Member #6180
Member since: Dec 2003
Location: In The Sticks

My Corvette(s)
1989 L98 Coupe

Thanks: 433
Thanked 390 Times in 305 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by XQIZT View Post
Yay...hurray...Ya know what I DON'T see in this article...and maybe there is more to this...But what I don't see is this:
1) Confirmation that the "armed guard" actually used his gun to disarm the student. Coulda been that this kid was just unlucky enough to pull this stunt with the guard behind him/nearby. Certainly if the student had been shot, that would have been included in the article.
2) Does this school regularly have armed guards? If so, that fact doesn't seem to deter students from bringing guns anyway.

I'm not saying that armed guards aren't part of the solution, but I think people have unrealistic expectations about how effective it will be.
Doesn't even matter if he used the gun. Just having an armed guard prevented this from being worse.

Compare with Sandy Hook, that school was completely unprotected and full of children (funny, the libs say "For the children" and advocate leaving schools unprotected. Shows just how fucked-up in the head they really are) and the massacre was on like donkey kong..

Just another nail in the coffin of the old tired lie.. gun control only works for dictators and tyrants. PERIOD.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkman2008 View Post
That's called "AGENDA".
Wouldn't agenda be you and xzit talking about how the guard took the shooter down, rather than how the guard's presence stopped this madman? Yeah? I thought so too..
Vette_Newb is online now   Reply w/quote Quick reply to this message
Fascism is a religion of the state. It assumes the organic unity of the body politic and longs for a national leader attuned to the will of the people. It is totalitarian in that it views everything as political and holds that any action by the state is justified to achieve the common good. It takes responsibility for all aspects of life, including our health and well-being, and seeks to impose uniformity of thought and action, whether by force or through regulation and social pressure. Everything, including economy and religion, must be aligned with its objectives.
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Corvette Forum : DigitalCorvettes.com Corvette Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (12 CHARACTERS MAXIMUM), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:16 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
© 2003-2011, DigitalCorvettes.com - All Rights Reserved