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02-08-2013, 08:17 PM
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So what is your belief........
....I happened to get side tracked by a thread while searching
for my "quality post" items (  ), and I watched this
video by Alex Jones
and thought that what he perceives to
be a threat, I cannot fathom the government coming after
about 45% or 52 million American households to retrieve
weapons, can you imagine (per se: 1 per household)
"pry it from my cold dead hands" I just don't see that
happening, I just don't see an all and all assault (no pun)
on your ownership as he stated.
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Number of guns and gun owners in USA.
Most estimates range between 39% and 50% of US households
having at least one gun (that's about 43-55 million households).
The estimates for the number of privately owned guns range
from 190 million to 300 million. Removed those that skew the
stats for their own purposes the best estimates are about 45%
or 52 million of American households owning 260 million guns).
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02-08-2013, 08:35 PM
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Your not an Alex Jones Fan Roy ?
I heard his radio broadcast on this topic prior.
What happens when people turn on one another?
Exponential mathematical outcome(s).
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02-08-2013, 08:38 PM
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What'd they say not too long ago, hunters in MN, IA, and NE have the world's 6th largest standing army, something like that.
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02-08-2013, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 87vette81big
Your not an Alex Jones Fan Roy ?
I heard his radio broadcast on this topic prior.
What happens when people turn on one another?
Exponential mathematical outcome(s).
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...not a fan, I think he is too paranoid, isn't that's what
happening now, I just don't see the government taking
on millions and millions of people to take away the guns...
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02-08-2013, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by C3C6 Norm
What'd they say not too long ago, hunters in MN, IA, and NE have the world's 6th largest standing army, something like that.
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...I never heard that before, but honestly I have not follow
most of the gun topics out there, I guess we don't have to
worry about invasion then...
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02-08-2013, 08:48 PM
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My father keeps carrying on about the same belief that the government is after our guns.
I'm in law enforcement and I assure you it would require the active army to move on their own people to take our guns. Reserves and NG are people with normal jobs, many which are LEO's. No LEo will assist in the collection and round up of personal owned guns. Most of us are prepared for a fight and would team up to lead the revolution.
The day they come after our guns, it would be a war beyond any seen by the US. It has already been proven that out military can't fight insurgents. An attack on the populace would be devastating to our economy and the people, not to mention the military.
I would never need an assault rifle to defend my family. A skilled fighter can be lethal with any weapon. Bolt action rifles, small caliber pistols and home made explosives, not to mention tripfalls, traps and barricades can all be made and can defeat our military.
   
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02-08-2013, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 92Roadster
...not a fan, I think he is too paranoid, isn't that's what
happening now, I just don't see the government taking
on millions and millions of people to take away the guns... 
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That is Ok Roy.
I didn't think you were a fan of Alex Jones.
I don't like mainstream media no more.
I like listening to Alex, but that is just me & others that tune in to listen.
There is No way in Hell anyone is going to pry the Gun(s) away from a Vietnam Army Vet like You or others from Your Generation.
History shows that every time guns were taken away from a country's citizens, people, friends, family members turned on each other. For protection or browning points.
They ended up being taken away(prison camp) just the same as the prior armed gun owners.
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02-08-2013, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BadBlackVett
My father keeps carrying on about the same belief that the government is after our guns.
I'm in law enforcement and I assure you it would require the active army to move on their own people to take our guns. Reserves and NG are people with normal jobs, many which are LEO's. No LEo will assist in the collection and round up of personal owned guns. Most of us are prepared for a fight and would team up to lead the revolution.
The day they come after our guns, it would be a war beyond any seen by the US. It has already been proven that out military can't fight insurgents. An attack on the populace would be devastating to our economy and the people, not to mention the military.
I would never need an assault rifle to defend my family. A skilled fighter can be lethal with any weapon. Bolt action rifles, small caliber pistols and home made explosives, not to mention tripfalls, traps and barricades can all be made and can defeat our military.
    
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...I agree with you it would not be a well placed plan of
attack (weapon confiscation) against the populace, and I
full-heartedly agree that skill is a HUGE factor in the use
of weapons, as appose a lack of accuracy & knowledge....
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02-08-2013, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 87vette81big
That is Ok Roy.
I didn't think you were a fan of Alex Jones.
I don't like mainstream media no more.
I like listening to Alex, but that is just me & others that tune in to listen.
There is No way in Hell anyone is going to pry the Gun(s) away from a Vietnam Army Vet like You or others from Your Generation.
History shows that every time guns were taken away from a country's citizens, people, friends, family members turned on each other. For protection or browning points.
They ended up being taken away(prison camp) just the same as the prior armed gun owners.
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... don't cut yourself short just listening to one person,
(history) that was then, this is now and they did not have
a 2nd amendment....
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02-08-2013, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 92Roadster
...I agree with you it would not be a well placed plan of
attack (weapon confiscation) against the populace, and I
full-heartedly agree that skill is a HUGE factor in the use
of weapons, as appose a lack of accuracy & knowledge....
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Booby Traps can be bypassed - Overcome.
You were taught that in Vietnam Roy.
I have given thought on a planned invasion on the USA from within prior.
The easiest way to get people out of their homes without firing one shot would be to set the homes on fire.
Like they did in Waaco, TX.
The jungles in Vietnam were constant fire bombed.
Since few of us live underground like the Viet Kong did,
edge is not there.
Last edited by 87vette81big; 02-08-2013 at 09:59 PM.
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02-08-2013, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 92Roadster
...don't cut yourself short just listening to one person,
(history) that was then, this is now and they did not have
a 2nd amendment....
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No I don't.
I look here every night on DC Newsroom.
I read all I can newly posted.
I make my own assumptions.
When Younger just a few years back, many of my close friends were from you generation.
Vietnam Vets. US Army. US Marines. US Navy Seal. National Reserve.
They all passed on. Last one passed on recent. Was a US Navy Seal Instructor during Vietnam.
All from my area.
I was their Mechanic. Too old to do the work( fix their late model cars & trucks) & bad eyesight. Minds all sharp as an arrow.
I listened to all of them, stories & wisdom shared.
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02-08-2013, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 87vette81big
Booby Traps can be bypassed - Overcome.
You were taught that in Vietnam Roy.
I have given thought on a planned invasion on the USA from within prior.
The easiest way to get people out of their homes without firing one shot would be to set the homes on fire.
Like they did in Wayco, TX.
The jungles in Vietnam were constant fire bombed.
Since few of us live underground like the Viet Kong did,
edge is not there.
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(traps)...it would be my understanding you would not get
a chance to by pass said device being here in the states...
...I don't see any real threat by fire, unless your indicating
the use of napalm by US war planes and that is not even
a conceivable idea...
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02-08-2013, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 87vette81big
No I don't.
I look here every night on DC Newsroom.
I read all I can newly posted.
I make my own assumptions.
When Younger just a few years back, many of my close friends were from you generation.
Vietnam Vets. US Army. US Marines. US Navy Seal. National Reserve.
They all passed on. Last one passed on recent. Was a US Navy Seal Instructor during Vietnam.
All from my area.
I was their Mechanic. Too old to do the work( fix their late model cars & trucks) & bad eyesight. Minds all sharp as an arrow.
I listened to all of them, stories & wisdom shared.

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...sorry to hear your loss of a close friend, I certainly don't
leave my reading of news reports to DC, even though there
are a lot of knowledgeable news oriented people on this site....
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02-08-2013, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 92Roadster
(traps)...it would be my understanding you would not get
a chance to by pass said device being here in the states...
...I don't see any real threat by fire, unless your indicating
the use of napalm by US war planes and that is not even
a conceivable idea... 
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LOL
I know You are one of the Smarter Individuals here on DC.
The Indians back in the wild west used Bow & Arrows soaked in animal Fat. Set arrow on fire. Shot at the cowboys & Army Camps. Buildings burnt down the ground.
Today we have Obama's Military Drones.
Mini stealth F14 -F16 that moves at night remote control.
Satellite tracked & inferred LED's installed that light up the view 360 degrees several hundred feet. Longwave inferred light invisible to our naked human eyes.
Best defense against them, build a Jammer that scans entire frequency spectrum several hundred times per second. Lock in & send out a Rouge signal. It will - drone crash to the ground.
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02-08-2013, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 92Roadster
...sorry to hear your loss of a close friend, I certainly don't
leave my reading of news reports to DC, even though there
are a lot of knowledgeable news oriented people on this site.... 
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Thanks.
He died around Christmas, at least month ago.
They just found him recent.
Yeah. Like it reads & sounds.
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