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Old 02-15-2013, 05:31 AM   #1
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Why The Elite Would Lose A Civil War

Part 2 of the article by Alex Jones & Joesph Watson I posted a few days earlier.
If You hate Alex Jones & wish him dead, stop reading now.
Go back kissing Bam Bam Bama's Asshole & keep quiet doing so.


Why The Elite Would Lose a Civil War


Manufacturing mass social unrest would be a foolish mistake
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Infowars.com
February 14, 2013
Despite the fact that the banking elite wants to generate riots and stir social disorder in order to collapse the U.S. economy so they can buy up real assets on the cheap, if such chaos was to spill over into a full blown civil war, the consequences for the technocrats would be disastrous.
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In part one we explored why the elite routinely generate civil unrest in countries as a tactic of driving down confidence, scaring away investors and setting themselves up as the saviors in order to loot what’s left of the economy for next to nothing.
We also documented how authorities in America are clearly in a preparatory phase for mass civil unrest to break out within the next 5-10 years.
However, basic figures, along with the lessons of recent history, clearly suggest that should such disorder spiral into a new civil war, which many suggest is the very outcome federal agencies are gearing up for (the DHS alone has purchased enough bullets to wage a 30 year conflict), the result for the elite is inevitable failure.
It is imperative to stress that ordinary Americans do not want a civil war. This is not something we or anyone we associate with is actively calling to initiate. This is simply a warning to the power structure that their policies are setting the stage for this very outcome – and it’s not going to end well for them.
Al Sharpton recently suggested that Americans should accept government regulation of the Second Amendment because the primary reason the founders put the right to bear arms in the constitution – to defend against government tyranny – is no longer applicable. Sharpton brazenly implied that the government would just be able to drone strike all Americans who resisted being disarmed.
“First of all, if the government were to come to disarm you, you would not be able to use an automatic weapon to defend yourself. Let’s be serious. We’re in a world of drones now so the Second Amendment would not help you in that area. It is absurd to try to cite that,” said Sharpton.
In reality, even if a tiny minority of armed Americans chose to resist government oppression – the odds would be stacked hugely in their favor.
Consider the fact that there are almost 100 million gun owners in the United States, who in total own over 300 million firearms and rising.
There are only around 1.4 million active duty personnel in the entire US military – that includes the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard. Even if you include national guard reserves, the total figure is less than 2.3 million.
Even if just five per cent of American gun owners actively resisted in a civil war, that would be five million Americans – more than double the entire US military and national guard, many of whom are already engaged overseas. So even if the government used the military to fire upon U.S. citizens, the troops would be easily outnumbered.
Consider the recent story about the manhunt for former LAPD officer Christopher Dorner.
It took the vast resources and manpower of the Los Angeles Police Department and numerous other law enforcement bodies and federal agencies over a week to track down one guy - one guy!
As part of that manhunt, LAPD officers showed themselves to be bumbling incompetents – engaging in frenzied shootings of innocent people who looked nothing like Dorner and eventually having to burn Dorner alive inside a cabin in order to apprehend him.
If it takes the LAPD over a week to find and kill one guy, how much effort do you think would be required to disarm or kill 100 million American gun owners without meaningful resistance?
Consider the US occupation of Afghanistan that has now entered its 12th year.
A total of almost 500,000 coalition forces and Afghan National Security Forces have failed to defeat Taliban insurgents numbering just 25,000 – a ratio of 20 to 1 – in over 12 years of combat operations.
If the finest of the US military and their allies cannot defeat 25,000 ragtag insurgents in 12 years, how on earth are 100 million Americans going to be subdued?
Consider the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
17,000 troops working on the grounds of the Baghdad Airport couldn’t even secure the road leading to the airport months after the invasion.
If 17,000 troops can’t even control a single road, how does the government plan to successfully occupy an entire country in the event of martial law?
When a population is under occupation and they are being oppressed, the zeal for resistance knows no bounds.
Victory is achieved by refusing to submit – resistance is victory.
The banking elite which controls the US government – the same elite that has engineered riots in other countries – most recently Greece – as part of a process of turning those nations into empty vassals that can be easily looted for their wealth, infrastructure and resources, must realize that it cannot win a civil war in the United States.
Such an eventuality would result in massive bloodshed on both sides – and the elite simply doesn’t have the numbers to claim victory.
This is a warning to the technocrats – do not try to divide and conquer the American people, the police, and the military. Stop characterizing patriotic, freedom loving Americans as domestic terrorists. Do not try to initiate a civil war that would achieve nothing but carnage and a sustained breakdown of society.
As top constitutional scholars like
and Lew Rockwell have noted, one of the reasons why the federal government is so petrified of the American people rising up to re-assert their God-given rights in the face of an establishment which is arming to the teeth against them, is the threat posed to their illegal power monopoly by the prospect of secession.
Secession is not about destroying America, it is about reinvigorating America as the founders envisioned it, and in the process disengaging from the very forces – the offshore banking elite – who are themselves working feverishly to destroy America so that they may be the first to slice up and devour the dead carcass of a once great nation, just as they have done to numerous other countries over the last three decades.
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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.
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Everyone would lose that war. Virtually every job in America is provided by the "elite". The only other way to have jobs is to go to communism where the government provides all jobs. Does that sound like a win? How would America look with 100% unemployment? This train of thought is insane.
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Everyone would lose that war. Virtually every job in America is provided by the "elite". The only other way to have jobs is to go to communism where the government provides all jobs. Does that sound like a win? How would America look with 100% unemployment? This train of thought is insane.
communism is where the left wants to take us...and they're winning...

With economic collapse, you'd have 100% unemployment...

I try to think of it as a 'reset', not insanity.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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communism is where the left wants to take us...and they're winning...

With economic collapse, you'd have 100% unemployment...

I try to think of it as a 'reset', not insanity.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
But the gist of this article is that the elites want civil war. The elites sure don't want Communism, because that only happens when you take everything the rich have and execute them. As for doing the same thing over and over, when it comes to economic systems, no one has ever found anything that keeps as many people in a comfortable standard of living better than controlled capitalism. It's not perfect, but every other system tends to impoverish 99.9% of the people while leaving the revolutionary leaders living the Life of Riley. Any plan whose goal is to massively redistribute from the rich because they are hated is doomed to ruin everyone.
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But the gist of this article is that the elites want civil war.
I didn't get that. For me, this phrase encapsulated the intent of the article:
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It is imperative to stress that ordinary Americans do not want a civil war. This is not something we or anyone we associate with is actively calling to initiate. This is simply a warning to the power structure that their policies are setting the stage for this very outcome – and it’s not going to end well for them.
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The elites sure don't want Communism, because that only happens when you take everything the rich have and execute them.
I didn't say the elites want communism, I said the left wants it...hell they are communism.
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As for doing the same thing over and over, when it comes to economic systems, no one has ever found anything that keeps as many people in a comfortable standard of living better than controlled capitalism.
I think a free market system is a better approach than controlled capitalism. It's currently being demonstrated that capitalism can't be controlled, especially by the government...that's the insanity.
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It's not perfect, but every other system tends to impoverish 99.9% of the people while leaving the revolutionary leaders living the Life of Riley. Any plan whose goal is to massively redistribute from the rich because they are hated is doomed to ruin everyone.
Economic freedom is the only way I see to maintain a strong middle class. Capitalism isn't economic freedom.
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communism is where the left wants to take us...and they're winning...

With economic collapse, you'd have 100% unemployment...

I try to think of it as a 'reset', not insanity.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Oh please!!!! The closest thing we ever had to communism in this country was the unions, and they are in a rapid decline. No one not even the looney left wants communism. This is an extreme exageration.

And a reset???? yeah we hit the reset button and find ourselves as a third world nation with no more advantages over the rest of the world. I know you are pissed that Obama won reelection but a civil war is not the answer to that problem....the answer is an electable republican party....something that people like you have done away with.
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But the gist of this article is that the elites want civil war. The elites sure don't want Communism, because that only happens when you take everything the rich have and execute them. As for doing the same thing over and over, when it comes to economic systems, no one has ever found anything that keeps as many people in a comfortable standard of living better than controlled capitalism. It's not perfect, but every other system tends to impoverish 99.9% of the people while leaving the revolutionary leaders living the Life of Riley. Any plan whose goal is to massively redistribute from the rich because they are hated is doomed to ruin everyone.
Communism is for the people, not the communist. Having a very captive workforce, mostly dependent on government assistance is a big plus for crony capitalist. That is why China is so popular with mega corporations. They can use child/slave labor to mass produce crappy goods and sell them in country's with laws against the very activity they depend on for their livelihood.

Capitalism really hasn't been used in America in a long time, and what we are heading into now is more along the State-Capitalism practiced by the Chinese and other communist countries.

They have the people of this country backstopping their losses and they have the political side doing their bidding on policy. I know you like to blame the technology, the weather, the this or that, but the reality is that the reason we are bleeding good jobs is simply because it can be done cheaper in country's where human rights are pretty far down the scale. They can't be brought up to our standards, so we have to be brought down to theirs.. communism.
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Fascism is a religion of the state. It assumes the organic unity of the body politic and longs for a national leader attuned to the will of the people. It is totalitarian in that it views everything as political and holds that any action by the state is justified to achieve the common good. It takes responsibility for all aspects of life, including our health and well-being, and seeks to impose uniformity of thought and action, whether by force or through regulation and social pressure. Everything, including economy and religion, must be aligned with its objectives.
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Manufacturing mass social unrest would be a foolish mistake
....I see a lot of Irony in that statement....

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It took the vast resources and manpower of the Los
Angeles Police Department and numerous other law
enforcement bodies and federal agencies over a week to track
down one guy - one guy! As part of that manhunt, LAPD
officers showed themselves to be bumbling incompetents –
engaging in frenzied shootings of innocent people who looked
nothing like Dorner and eventually having to burn Dorner alive
inside a cabin in order to apprehend him. If it takes the LAPD
over a week to find and kill one guy, how much effort do you
think would be required to disarm or kill 100 million American
gun owners without meaningful resistance?
....how does comparing LAPD to any government agency
to suppress the masses......a lot of logic there....

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Such an eventuality would result in massive bloodshed on both sides – and the elite simply doesn’t have the numbers to claim victory.
....do you really believe that your son, daughter, father,
mother in the armed forces or any force for that matter really
going to fight their own.......

...talk about not inciting a conflict.....

...I don't give 2 cents for Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
but they do have the right to survive, just like Mr. Obama....

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The closest thing we ever had to communism in this country was the unions, and they are in a rapid decline.
Ok Machine can you explain this corrolation to me? How exactly are unions like communism? While I would agree with your statement that they are on a decline the tie to communism I really dont get. You do realize that without unions we would all be working for pennies a day in a sweat shop and have nothing while the fat cats would be getting fatter. I dont know yet if this was a mistake or if you are not really aware of what unions have done for this and other countries. Would you rather our country more resemble china? If you would like I would be happy to point out many of the things that unions have donr that have become "national policy".
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...I must have dirtied his thread, Brian is not responding...
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...I must have dirtied his thread, Brian is not responding...
Perhaps he's over in your nipple thread, checking things out...
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...I must have dirtied his thread, Brian is not responding...
I am here Roy.
Came home late from work.
Hanging out at my Friend Steve's machine tonight.
Talking cars, engines, racing, some politics.

You have not dirtied up this thread.
Go ahead & drop your pants & crap away.
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Ok Machine can you explain this corrolation to me? How exactly are unions like communism? While I would agree with your statement that they are on a decline the tie to communism I really dont get. You do realize that without unions we would all be working for pennies a day in a sweat shop and have nothing while the fat cats would be getting fatter. I dont know yet if this was a mistake or if you are not really aware of what unions have done for this and other countries. Would you rather our country more resemble china? If you would like I would be happy to point out many of the things that unions have donr that have become "national policy".
The Machine is small business owner.
Most small business owners cringe at the thought of a Union.
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The Machine is small business owner.
Most small business owners cringe at the thought of a Union.
....I can sympathize with him on that issue.......but thats another thread...
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Why The Elite Would Lose A Civil War

Is it so much for you guys to believe that the elite would want a THIRD path that is neither communism nor capitalism, that still results in supreme power concentrated in the hands of a few? We live in an advancing age and it would not be unheard of for oppression to evolve into a form the world has never seen before.


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