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Old 02-26-2013, 07:14 AM   #1
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Just a hundred years ago.

This was e-mailed to me today.

It had a picture of a 1910 ford car, which I couldn't copy, but it's a ford anyway so who cares. this was the text under the picture.


Show this to your friends, children and/or grandchildren!
The year is 1910, over one hundred years ago. What a difference a century makes!
Here are some statistics for the Year 1910:
***********************************
The average life expectancy for men was 47 years.
Fuel for this car was sold in drug stores only.
Only 14 percent of the homes had a bathtub.
Only 8 percent of the homes had a telephone.
There were only 8,000 cars and only 144 miles of paved roads.
The maximum speed limit in most cities was 10 mph.
The tallest structure in the world was the Eiffel Tower !
The average US wage in 1910 was 22 cents per hour.
The average US worker made between $200 and $400 per year.
A competent accountant could expect to earn $2000 per year,
a dentist $2,500 per year, a veterinarian between $1,500 and $4,000 per year,
and a mechanical engineer about $5,000 per year.
More than 95 percent of all births took place at HOME.
Ninety percent of all Doctors had NO COLLEGE EDUCATION!
Instead, they attended so-called medical schools,
many of which were condemned in the press AND the government as 'substandard.'
Sugar cost four cents a pound.
Eggs were fourteen cents a dozen.
Coffee was fifteen cents a pound.
Most women only washed their hair once a month, and used Borax or egg yolks for shampoo.
There was no such thing as under arm deodorant or tooth paste.
Canada passed a law that prohibited poor people from entering into their country for any reason.
The five leading causes of death were:
1. Pneumonia and influenza
2, Tuberculosis
3. Diarrhea
4. Heart disease
5. Stroke
The American flag had 45 stars.
The population of Las Vegas Nevada was only 30!
Crossword puzzles, canned beer, and iced tea hadn't been invented yet
There was no Mother's Day or Father's Day.
Two out of every 10 adults couldn't read or write and only 6 percent of all Americans had graduated from high school.
Eighteen percent of households had at least one full-time servant or domestic help.
There were about 230 reported murders in the ENTIRE U.S.A. !
I am now going to forward this to someone else without typing it myself.
From there, it will be sent to others all over the WORLD...all in a matter of seconds!
Try to imagine what it may be like in another 100 years.
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Try to imagine what it may be like in another 100 years.
I'm pretty sure life in the Union of American Socialsts Republic will not be pretty sight. You won't be able to send this e-mail around the world, because the government will control every communication. But, by George, we'll have that free government stuff we long for so much! For a fairly accurate view of what it will look like in UASR, just look at China today.
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I'm pretty sure life in the Union of American Socialsts Republic will not be pretty sight. You won't be able to send this e-mail around the world, because the government will control every communication. But, by George, we'll have that free government stuff we long for so much! For a fairly accurate view of what it will look like in UASR, just look at China today.
Take a breath there Tex...

Boy imagine if we became like China....our prison population would fall by two thirds, and our economy would be growing at about 7% a year....boy that would suck.
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Take a breath there Tex...

Boy imagine if we became like China....our prison population would fall by two thirds, and our economy would be growing at about 7% a year....boy that would suck.
Our prison population would fall by two thirds??
Really??? I'm calling that out as B.S.!!

China, is second to the U.S. in prison population,
with 1.6 million people in prison.
(That number excludes hundreds of thousands of
people held in administrative detention,
most of them in China's extrajudicial system
of re-education through labor, which often
singles out political activists who have not
committed crimes.)


So, if they have hundreds of thousands who
are not included in the statistics, what is their
real incarceration rate?
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Take a breath there Tex...

Boy imagine if we became like China....our prison population would fall by two thirds, and our economy would be growing at about 7% a year....boy that would suck.
Well, I'm not usually a big believer in the slippery slope theory. But I really don't see an alternative to big government socialism. The majority of our voters already have shown they want big government, and don't seem to understand that the money will run out causing "benefits" to be reduced or disappear. That's why the general standard of living in socialist countries is so low. No government can afford to keep everybody in the middle class without a prosperous economy. I wish I thought it was a laughing matter. I'm old enough that it won't have a big impact on me. But I feel sorry for those of our kids who would be producers. They are going to spend their lives working their asses off to support Democratic political promises.
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Our prison population would fall by two thirds??
Really??? I'm calling that out as B.S.!!

China, is second to the U.S. in prison population,
with 1.6 million people in prison.
(That number excludes hundreds of thousands of
people held in administrative detention,
most of them in China's extrajudicial system
of re-education through labor, which often
singles out political activists who have not
committed crimes.)


So, if they have hundreds of thousands who
are not included in the statistics, what is their
real incarceration rate?


Not even close. The per capiata numbers put the US at number 1 with 737 per 100,000. Russia is second at 581 per 100,000 and China comes in at #71 with 118 per 100,000. The median among all nations is 125 per 100,000, or about a sixth of our rate. So you are correct I was full of shit....the number would drop by 5/6ths.

Now of course if you want to use bullshit numbers take a country like china with 4 times our population and compare the total number of people in prison (1.6 million) to our total number(2.2 million)....unfortunatly we still come out on top, so you have to throw in bullshit about administrative detention, as if we don't have that too.

source...http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...l/nn2page1.stm
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Well, I'm not usually a big believer in the slippery slope theory. But I really don't see an alternative to big government socialism. The majority of our voters already have shown they want big government, and don't seem to understand that the money will run out causing "benefits" to be reduced or disappear. That's why the general standard of living in socialist countries is so low. No government can afford to keep everybody in the middle class without a prosperous economy. I wish I thought it was a laughing matter. I'm old enough that it won't have a big impact on me. But I feel sorry for those of our kids who would be producers. They are going to spend their lives working their asses off to support Democratic political promises.
Well Tex just to let you rest a bit easier, the top three countries rated for most prosperity are Sweeden, Finland, and Norway....and they are considered to be socialist countries. And since they are nordic countries, they have lots of slippery slopes.
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Well, I'm not usually a big believer in the slippery slope theory. But I really don't see an alternative to big government socialism.
Point in case, the 1910 data that machine supplied
is void of any mention of the 1910 federal budget.

The federal budget for that was year was
$840 million. Of that $840 million, close to half -
($389 million) was for defense, which is allowed
under the constitution. Only $6 million was spent
on welfare, which can argued, is not constitutional.

Less than 6% was spent on welfare and times were
much harder back then than they are today.

We have evolved into a country that now looks to
government to be the "Nanny" caretaker as it
has become a benevolent bureaucracy.
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Well Tex just to let you rest a bit easier, the top three countries rated for most prosperity are Sweeden, Finland, and Norway....and they are considered to be socialist countries. And since they are nordic countries, they have lots of slippery slopes.
Those countries enjoy the rare quality of a very homogeneous society. Very little racial or economic diversity. This is not a result of government intervention, it's just that those countries have always been very homogenous -- until the last few years. They have had a huge influx of Muslim immigrants - most of whom can't be involved in the business mainstream because of a lack of education and skills. If they don't do something to curtail this type of immigration, they will soon go the way of all socialist countries. You can try to compare apples to oranges all you want, but there is no comparison to a country with a history of economic and racial diversity as well as a constant influx of immigrants that saturated the workforce decades ago.
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Not even close. The per capiata numbers put the US at number 1 with 737 per 100,000. Russia is second at 581 per 100,000 and China comes in at #71 with 118 per 100,000. The median among all nations is 125 per 100,000, or about a sixth of our rate. So you are correct I was full of shit....the number would drop by 5/6ths.

Now of course if you want to use bullshit numbers take a country like china with 4 times our population and compare the total number of people in prison (1.6 million) to our total number(2.2 million)....unfortunatly we still come out on top, so you have to throw in bullshit about administrative detention, as if we don't have that too.

source...http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...l/nn2page1.stm
So, where are the hundreds of thousands of
people held in administrative detention who
are not included in your figures?
You are making claims based on statistics that
do not include the full picture. Therefore the statistics
you have provided are about as worthless as
tits on a boar hog. I call - B.S.!
Also, another reason China is able to keep their prison population down is because of their high rate of
capital punishment. Nobody even knows
the actual statistics because they are "secret".
Estimated to be in the thousands.
China's drug traffickers face firing squads.
If we did the same, we could reduce our
prison population significantly.
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If we did the same, we could reduce our
prison population significantly.
Exactly! This is yet another example of trying to use numbers to compare the incomparable. So a country has a lower prison population. Are they just more tolerant? Is their criminal justice system so harsh that accused people don't live to see a day in court? Do they hide political prisoners? You just can't make any real comparison without actually having access to and studying their system of incarceration. In the U.S., we have a system that tolerates high levels of crime by having a system of extreme protections for accused people. Many of the people incarcerated in the U.S. would just disappear in other parts of the world. We also, unfortunately, just have a deeply embedded crime culture. It is considered economic justice in the U.S. underclass to involve ones self in crime. Somehow, the underemployeed are owed some kind of retribution, and they do it themselves in the form of criminal activity. And there are great protections within those communities - partly because of fear and partly because of cultural loyalty. But for whatever reason, we expect high crime in our economically disadvantaged. In Europe, this is not the case so much. While they have fairly high government support for the lower economic classes, those people are expected to behave themselves, and they generally do as far as major crime goes. China? Give me a break. If the local government lackey doesn't like the way you look at him, you simply disappear. One less mouth to feed.
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So, where are the hundreds of thousands of
people held in administrative detention who
are not included in your figures?
You are making claims based on statistics that
do not include the full picture. Therefore the statistics
you have provided are about as worthless as
tits on a boar hog. I call - B.S.!
Also, another reason China is able to keep their prison population down is because of their high rate of
capital punishment. Nobody even knows
the actual statistics because they are "secret".
Estimated to be in the thousands.
China's drug traffickers face firing squads.
If we did the same, we could reduce our
prison population significantly.


You can call BS all you want I gave the available statistics and the source. They all show that the US by far jails more of it's citizens than any other country in the world. You could double Chinas numbers and then you would have what I originaly said....2/3 less than we have.
Now give me a source that shows the "hundreds of thousands you mention and the thousands killed" and we can maybe have an adult conversation. Other wise you are just posting lies and bullshit.

As to my not pointing out the budget in 1910, you may notice that this is not the news room. I only passed on an e-mail I got ( and did not write) and thought it would be nice to show how much progress we have made in the last 100 years rather than just bitching and moaning about the loss of the "good ole days". By the way it also didn't mention that the wright brothers had just done their first flight 7 years before and there were no commercial uses of planes yet....nor did it mention a huge number of other things that have improved in the last 100 years.

And I am sorry to all who avoid the news room for this becoming political....it was only supposed to be a thread about the progress we have made.
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Exactly! This is yet another example of trying to use numbers to compare the incomparable. So a country has a lower prison population. Are they just more tolerant? Is their criminal justice system so harsh that accused people don't live to see a day in court? Do they hide political prisoners? You just can't make any real comparison without actually having access to and studying their system of incarceration. In the U.S., we have a system that tolerates high levels of crime by having a system of extreme protections for accused people. Many of the people incarcerated in the U.S. would just disappear in other parts of the world. We also, unfortunately, just have a deeply embedded crime culture. It is considered economic justice in the U.S. underclass to involve ones self in crime. Somehow, the underemployeed are owed some kind of retribution, and they do it themselves in the form of criminal activity. And there are great protections within those communities - partly because of fear and partly because of cultural loyalty. But for whatever reason, we expect high crime in our economically disadvantaged. In Europe, this is not the case so much. While they have fairly high government support for the lower economic classes, those people are expected to behave themselves, and they generally do as far as major crime goes. China? Give me a break. If the local government lackey doesn't like the way you look at him, you simply disappear. One less mouth to feed.
Tex....full of lots of touchy feely feelings....no facts or links to back up a single thing you just said.

It is well known throughout the world that we imprison our citizens more than any other country in the world....to deny that is simply silly at best and seriously dishonest at worst.
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Tex....full of lots of touchy feely feelings....no facts or links to back up a single thing you just said.

It is well known throughout the world that we imprison our citizens more than any other country in the world....to deny that is simply silly at best and seriously dishonest at worst.
But to say that implies that we WRONGLY imprison large numbers of people. For whatever reason, we have a lot of ACTUAL CRIMINALS in this country. Are we in a contest with other countries to imprison the least? Do we just decriminalize rape and murder so we can win the contest??? Geez, I don't even get why we have the discussion unless you think we have a lot of innocent people in prison. All I read about these days is that prisons are so overcrowded that lower class felons are being released in droves to make room for higher class felons. What's the point of criticizing our prison census?
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You can call BS all you want I gave the available statistics and the source. They all show that the US by far jails more of it's citizens than any other country in the world. You could double Chinas numbers and then you would have what I originaly said....2/3 less than we have.
Now give me a source that shows the "hundreds of thousands you mention and the thousands killed" and we can maybe have an adult conversation. Other wise you are just posting lies and bullshit.
Lies & Bullshit????
If you were actually concerned about "Facts",
perhaps the first thing you should have done is
fact check your email??

This why I never post viral emails without first
trying to fact check them.
You might want to check this out - http://moneypennydd.wordpress.com/20...an-believe-in/

Once you have done this, I would be glad to discuss
the prison & budget issue if you have the guts to
initiate those topics in the News section.
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