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10-23-2006, 01:13 PM
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09 Vette gets 450hp and a Saleen Version?
From a Car Crazy Interview
carcrazy.com assistant editor John Breaux caught up with Saleen at the 2006 Cruisin the Coast Auto Show in Biloxi Mississippi.
Car Crazy: Are you going to bump up the horsepower on your Saleen Mustang cars when Ford adds horsepower in 2009?
Steve Saleen: Yes we are, I just talked to Alan Mulally (Ford Motor Co. Chief Executive) about the 2009 facelift year and what kind of added power the GT and Cobra will get.
CC: What kind of added power did he talk about for the 09 model year?
Saleen: Nothing extreme, it's only a facelift year, but enough to make my current engine upgrades obsolete. They're aiming for 350 horsepower out of the V8 in the GT, and they're only adding about ten or fifteen horsepower to the GT500.
CC: Can you give us an idea of what you'll do to for your Saleen models?
Saleen: We don't know yet exactly, but we've had many meetings on what we want. We're aiming to get around 385 horsepower out of the S281 3 Valve with around 390 lb-ft of torque. The S281 Supercharged model will get 500 horses even with around 460 lb-ft of torque, and expect about a fifteen horsepower increase on the (S281) Extreme Mustang over the 2007 model (that's 565 horsepower and 535 lb-ft of torque).
CC: That's a big power increase on all cars, are the prices going to change?
Saleen: Not counting inflation, the prices should stay the same.
CC: Are the rumors of you teaming up with GM true or false?
Saleen: My team just worked with GM last month on the Transformers movie. We had such a good relationship with them that we are infact going to team up with them on future projects?
CC: What future projects?
Saleen: Well the Camaro project is one of them, I've watched from a distance while they've been putting the production model together. I think it would be foolish on our part if we didn't get a part of that action (Steve laughs).
CC: So are you going to do your own versions of the new Camaro?
Saleen: It's not legally official right now, but that's what we're hoping for.
CC: What kind of upgrades will you make, have you seen the engine GM is using in the Camaro?
Saleen: I hope I don't get in trouble with GM for saying this, but they're using a 6.2 liter 450 horsepower engine for the premium V8 in the 2009 Camaro and the base Corvette. The base V8 will probably be a detuned version of the same 6.2. So we'll just upgrade the 6.2 liter V8 to Saleen level specifications. We're going to upgrade the 6.2 liter V8 if we're given the legal chance by GM. Our base model should have around 485 horsepower, and expect our Extreme Supercharged Camaro to have over 600 horsepower.
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10-23-2006, 01:16 PM
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good job midnite!
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10-23-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CorvetteConti
good job midnite!
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Yep! Operating under the "Know thy enemy" mode can sometimes provide serendipitous results. 
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10-23-2006, 03:18 PM
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i hope that he uses a different styling treatment for the chevy and ford products...
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"It's like Betty Crocker and Charles Manson had a love child and he's cooking for me"
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10-23-2006, 03:21 PM
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Might interesting find there...
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10-23-2006, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Punk Boy
i hope that he uses a different styling treatment for the chevy and ford products...
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It might not matter if his mouth has killed his plans before they start. GM will not appreciate this creditable leak. Besides, he will have a major challenge, IMO, trying to maintain parity between a Saleen Mustang and a Saleen Camaro of equal pricing.
I know what you mean tho, most of the Saleens have a lot of tack on stuff that makes them look like JC Whitney catalog covers. Although the newest Saleens include an integrated, factory-"quality"-looking rear treatment.
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'07: bought from a former sponsor, Z06 wheels former sponsor, Vararam from TByrne, Various accessories from Corvette Central and Corvette America. Shine from Adam's
'87: Carpet, leather, door pannels, steering wheel, storage compartment frame, dash cover - all from Corvette Central '79: All leather seats and foam Corvette America, Various accessories from Corvette Central, T1Rs, chrome Foose Legends
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10-23-2006, 03:27 PM
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'07 Z51 6Mn NCM delivery, '79 L82 4 sp gymk - Gone '87 Z52 4+3, 76 L-82 4 spd
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Originally Posted by Patrick
Might interesting find there...
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Patrick, "...gimme fire." ???? We've had enough fires!
Hey what's on top of your car ... helmet? Guess my eyes are getting old too.
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'07: bought from a former sponsor, Z06 wheels former sponsor, Vararam from TByrne, Various accessories from Corvette Central and Corvette America. Shine from Adam's
'87: Carpet, leather, door pannels, steering wheel, storage compartment frame, dash cover - all from Corvette Central '79: All leather seats and foam Corvette America, Various accessories from Corvette Central, T1Rs, chrome Foose Legends
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10-23-2006, 03:27 PM
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i personally hate the newest saleen mustanges....they have all the same styling ques of the S7...yes its his design but come on...you could do a few different things
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"It's like Betty Crocker and Charles Manson had a love child and he's cooking for me"
"We can do this two ways: We can do this MY way, or we can do this MY way MAD." |
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10-23-2006, 03:28 PM
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DC Pit Crew
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My Corvette(s)
RIP Mike Malone Smith
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Originally Posted by Longtimer
Hey what's on top of your car ... helmet?
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"It's like Betty Crocker and Charles Manson had a love child and he's cooking for me"
"We can do this two ways: We can do this MY way, or we can do this MY way MAD." |
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10-23-2006, 03:32 PM
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DC Pit Crew Boss
Posts: 6,807
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My Corvette(s)
'07 Z51 6Mn NCM delivery, '79 L82 4 sp gymk - Gone '87 Z52 4+3, 76 L-82 4 spd
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Originally Posted by Punk Boy
i personally hate the newest saleen mustanges....they have all the same styling ques of the S7...yes its his design but come on...you could do a few different things
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Didn't say I like it - just that it looks more integrated, less tack-on. Never saw a Mustang I liked. Can't see past the Fix Or Repair Daily sign.
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'07: bought from a former sponsor, Z06 wheels former sponsor, Vararam from TByrne, Various accessories from Corvette Central and Corvette America. Shine from Adam's
'87: Carpet, leather, door pannels, steering wheel, storage compartment frame, dash cover - all from Corvette Central '79: All leather seats and foam Corvette America, Various accessories from Corvette Central, T1Rs, chrome Foose Legends
DC Sponsors
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10-23-2006, 04:25 PM
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DC Crew
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Originally Posted by Longtimer
Patrick, "...gimme fire." ???? We've had enough fires!
Hey what's on top of your car ... helmet? Guess my eyes are getting old too.
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Fuel and fire is combustion baby!
Yep, that'd be my pumpkin protector on the roof. 
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Current:
2001 Corvette Convertible / Torch Red / 6-speed / Z51 / HUD (mine!)
2003 Corvette Convertible / Spiral Gray / 6-speed / Z51 / HUD (hers!)
Previous:
2002 Corvette Z06 race car / "The DC-Z" / Electron Blue (SOLD!)
1996 Corvette Grand Sport / Admiral Blue / 6-speed (SOLD!)
1996 Corvette LT4 / Black / 6-speed (DESTROYED!)
2007 Corvette Coupe / Le Mans Blue / 6-speed (SOLD!)
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10-23-2006, 06:07 PM
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DC Crew
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07' c6
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Originally Posted by Patrick
Fuel and fire is combustion baby!
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450 hp?????????first i heard 425 now 450?????damm for the base c6 huh or we talkin c7 here folks,,,c'mon rick spit it out...lol
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10-24-2006, 02:23 PM
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DC Pit Crew Boss
Posts: 6,807
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My Corvette(s)
'07 Z51 6Mn NCM delivery, '79 L82 4 sp gymk - Gone '87 Z52 4+3, 76 L-82 4 spd
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Originally Posted by Tommy6
450 hp?????????first i heard 425 now 450?????damm for the base c6 huh or we talkin c7 here folks,,,c'mon rick spit it out...lol
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Nah, just staying relative with the market. We KNEW they left all kinds of power and technology on the table when they released the LS2. Look at the numbers Jeremy gets from his dynos on LS2s with nothing but bolt ons added. GM might choose to add some technology (DOD is my bet) and maybe one or two lesser components that allow them to say "... as seen on the LS7 in the Z06....", but they could get 450 from today's LS2 with out any reliability issues at all - if they wanted to.
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'07: bought from a former sponsor, Z06 wheels former sponsor, Vararam from TByrne, Various accessories from Corvette Central and Corvette America. Shine from Adam's
'87: Carpet, leather, door pannels, steering wheel, storage compartment frame, dash cover - all from Corvette Central '79: All leather seats and foam Corvette America, Various accessories from Corvette Central, T1Rs, chrome Foose Legends
DC Sponsors
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10-24-2006, 02:36 PM
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DC Crew
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2003 Z06
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Saleen and Chevy? I think I just threw up a bit.
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10-24-2006, 03:33 PM
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DC Crew
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So is this 450 HP in the base Corvette?? What will they do with the LS2? Could they make a poor man's vette with the LS2 in the future when the new base would have 450 HP or scrap the LS2 as a Vette engine? Or just do something that I can't think of at the moment 
Any way you slice it, more power is good news.
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