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Old 12-26-2014, 07:48 PM   #31
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Hi Gary,


I'm still around with the old school super 10 and it is still holding up to my 582 BBC Pump Gas combination. I guess its because I have the rear end set up with a 625 lb. spring from VB&P and the Dragvet.com kit, running Mickey Thompson Drag Radials-perfectly aligned. As soon as she breaks something internally, I will send you an IM and a deposit for a new 12 Bolt Center with 1480's including half shafts and new trailing arms. It will be a complete set up. I'm going to keep the car IRS vs. the AutoFab set up. Again my engine from Steve Schmidt makes 807 h.p. at 6500. Sure is fun to drive. Have a safe New Year's and as always Thanks for the knowledge and quality of workmanship posted here on DC.


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Hi Joe
You may find that super10 will hold up to a lot more then you think. Sounds like you have it down pretty good. One thing, if you plan on a 12 I would consider getting the needed parts now before they are gone. With a Super 10 the conversion to a 12 is the posi case and Gear set. All the other parts are there. 1480's are only for 12 bolts and require the complete kit as you mentioned the shafts and outer axles. I am building one of those right now with another in line.
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I'm still around with the old school super 10 and it is still holding up to my 582 BBC Pump Gas combination. I guess its because I have the rear end set up with a 625 lb. spring from VB&P and the Dragvet.com kit, running Mickey Thompson Drag Radials-perfectly aligned. As soon as she breaks something internally, I will send you an IM and a deposit for a new 12 Bolt Center with 1480's including half shafts and new trailing arms. It will be a complete set up. I'm going to keep the car IRS vs. the AutoFab set up. Again my engine from Steve Schmidt makes 807 h.p. at 6500. Sure is fun to drive. Have a safe New Year's and as always Thanks for the knowledge and quality of workmanship posted here on DC.




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800 hp with stock axles? You like to live dangerously.

We would like to see photos of your car.
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Gary,

I wish you lived in TX so I could bring my crappy D35 from my Cherokee to you to tune the possi that's in it and rebuild the it due to some bearing noise.

I guess I will have to look for a diff guy here in the Houston area.

Doubt I will find one with your skill.
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i cant help but think that for what some of you guys put into the rear end $$$ wise, you could have done a solid-axle 12 bolt/9 inch/ 8.75/ dana 60 swap and mini tubbed the car for less, and STILL been stronger to boot....

yes, yes, yes--i know. thats 'de-engineering' the car. but at the power levels being quoted here, are you REALLY wanting to go storm that fag in a ferrari on mulholland drive?

i will take strength and reliability--as well as price--over the "WOW" factor everytime. just seems crazy to me. but hey, each to his own--your car/your money is my thought.

and solid axle cars CAN be made to handle...doesnt anyone else remember the 70's trans-ams? or the herb adams engineering GTO? the tag line was "goat eats porsche"...

just my own personal take on it. i could be wrong--it has happened before...
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I wish you lived in TX so I could bring my crappy D35 from my Cherokee to you to tune the possi that's in it and rebuild the it due to some bearing noise.

I guess I will have to look for a diff guy here in the Houston area.

Doubt I will find one with your skill.
There are 2 diff builders here. Gary & Me.
I will still take on C4 Dana 44 builds. Contacted yesterday again from old CF. Seems they like my build threads up there still.

I also do solid axle builds. Very familiar with the Dana 35 used in Jeep Cherokees.

Gary and I have discussed IRS Vs Solid axle prior.
Most are not into drag racing hardcore.. Seem to shun the thought.
May change in 015.

Gary has all rhe C2 & C3 here. I choose so.


My focus is on Drag Racing.
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i cant help but think that for what some of you guys put into the rear end $$$ wise, you could have done a solid-axle 12 bolt/9 inch/ 8.75/ dana 60 swap and mini tubbed the car for less, and STILL been stronger to boot....

yes, yes, yes--i know. thats 'de-engineering' the car. but at the power levels being quoted here, are you REALLY wanting to go storm that fag in a ferrari on mulholland drive?

i will take strength and reliability--as well as price--over the "WOW" factor everytime. just seems crazy to me. but hey, each to his own--your car/your money is my thought.

and solid axle cars CAN be made to handle...doesnt anyone else remember the 70's trans-ams? or the herb adams engineering GTO? the tag line was "goat eats porsche"...

just my own personal take on it. i could be wrong--it has happened before...
These guys don't know Pontiac Trans Ams like us Zinc.
Herb Adams had the 70 Era Birds cornering 1.3 G's back in the day.
Solid axle & steel leaf springs.
Only you recall too.
Spanked the Porches.
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There are 2 diff builders here. Gary & Me.
I will still take on C4 Dana 44 builds. Contacted yesterday again from old CF. Seems they like my build threads up there still.

I also do solid axle builds. Very familiar with the Dana 35 used in Jeep Cherokees.

Gary and I have discussed IRS Vs Solid axle prior.
Most are not into drag racing hardcore.. Seem to shun the thought.
May change in 015.

Gary has all rhe C2 & C3 here. I choose so.


My focus is on Drag Racing.

Post some links to your build threads. I'm interested in seeing them as I've got a drag car project.
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i cant help but think that for what some of you guys put into the rear end $$$ wise, you could have done a solid-axle 12 bolt/9 inch/ 8.75/ dana 60 swap and mini tubbed the car for less, and STILL been stronger to boot....

yes, yes, yes--i know. thats 'de-engineering' the car. but at the power levels being quoted here, are you REALLY wanting to go storm that fag in a ferrari on mulholland drive?

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and solid axle cars CAN be made to handle...doesnt anyone else remember the 70's trans-ams? or the herb adams engineering GTO? the tag line was "goat eats porsche"...

just my own personal take on it. i could be wrong--it has happened before...
A braced 9inch with big axles and a good center section isn't cheap. What ever you do is going to cost money, even buying replacement 10 bolts gets expensive if you don't upgrade.
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Post some links to your build threads. I'm interested in seeing them as I've got a drag car project.
Its Gary's thread here.
I like him.
One of the 1st friends I made here on DC back in 2011.
Up to him.

I have been hanging out in DC Bad Shark Lounge, Newsroom,
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A braced 9inch with big axles and a good center section isn't cheap. What ever you do is going to cost money, even buying replacement 10 bolts gets expensive if you don't upgrade.
There are many options available.
Few have explored them all.
Ford 9' inch stock is only reliable to 425-450 HP.
Built to the max good for 1500 + HP.

Dana 60 Solid axle layout my pick for easy of available parts & ultimate strength.
Extra weight is on 25-30lbs more than Chevy 12 solid axle.
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Its Gary's thread here.
I like him.
One of the 1st friends I made here on DC back in 2011.
Up to him.

I have been hanging out in DC Bad Shark Lounge, Newsroom,
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Like Hanging out with Junk in C5 Tech too. We have fun.
Hi Brian
Yeah this thread is getting off track and since it's a sticky I would ask that non super 10 related be removed.

However I would like to see some of your work, if you start a thread dedicated to your build it would attract the guys who want to review it. I sure would. Sounds like you have some serious builds going on, sure well beyond most street vettes and that would be interesting to check out. I have no plans to go beyond the 63-82 vettes myself but others I'm sure would.
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Just look what they do to You on Corvette Forum.
Often on DC too.
You're right about that brother. There are guys coping my work yet not doing the same level of work. Others have limited experience and become experts. Yet others I befriended only to be double crossed later on.

But one important thing, I help more people then there are people who take advantage of me. That is important to me, the others play a good game of show but it still comes down to money in the end. The guys I work with know the difference, some have used the others only to come back to me to fix their work. I could post a lot of examples but that is not what I need to do.

So for this thread I'll stick to the main topic. For those that don't do their homework on a subject they will end up not getting what they think.

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????? what makes you say that? i agree with him--a dana 60 is FAR stronger/cheaper/easier to get parts for than a 9" ford....

or take a look at the corporate 14 from gm--basically bombproof with 1.5 diameter 35 spline axleshafts stock. of course its ridiculously humongus...probly 150LBS more than even the dana 60.

honestly id take a 8.75 chrysler over a 9 inch because ALL the mopar 8.75 had nodular iron centers and 30 splines factory. most 9 inch were regular iron and 28 spline.

and yes i set up my own and MANY others gears. even several race cars running the pro gas JR. 9.99 index as well as the pro gas 8.99 index. in the last 6 years alone i did the 4.10 in my brothers 67 camaro. the 4.88 front and rear in his f-150 4x4. the 3.73 in my vette. a 4.88 in a 70 chevelle. the 3.73 front and rear in my diesel f-350 tow truck. a 5.38 for a drag car 12 bolt chevy, and a 4.56 in a full floating timken rockwell.

now THATS a rear axle, the timken rockwell. rear cover like gm but pinion and carrier go out front like mopar/ford. VERY heavy. came in full/semi/non float versions. usually found under rear of late late 50's to early 70's gm pickups. full float version wheel bearings are big enough for me to wear like bracelets!

i have even seen a dana 70 and a dana 80....of course the mud bogger boys were doing rockwell 5 ton planetaries because even the dana 60's wouldnt hold up to big block, nitrous, and 44 inch tires....
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