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Old 04-22-2010, 02:31 PM   #31
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I just had my 02 towed to the dealership again this weekend this will be the 4th time my car has been serviced for the steering colum lock.. It was serviced once before i bought the car. I have had it in 3 times since last Sept and i put it away for winter for 3 months.. This is the second time in 3 weeks. The first time in sept they actually removed the locking mecanism the car could be turned but it would die after a couple of seconds so a few weeks ago they replaced the harnass and reprogrammed the computer.

All I know is I missed 2 car shows this weekend and a car that you cant depend on aint worth shit !

So who knows what they are going to do to it this time.
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I just had my 02 towed to the dealership again this weekend this will be the 4th time my car has been serviced for the steering colum lock.. It was serviced once before i bought the car. I have had it in 3 times since last Sept and i put it away for winter for 3 months.. This is the second time in 3 weeks. The first time in sept they actually removed the locking mecanism the car could be turned but it would die after a couple of seconds so a few weeks ago they replaced the harnass and reprogrammed the computer.

All I know is I missed 2 car shows this weekend and a car that you cant depend on aint worth shit !

So who knows what they are going to do to it this time.
More of the same crap they did last time! Didn't you see Patrick's thread on this???
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I just had my 02 towed to the dealership again this weekend this will be the 4th time my car has been serviced for the steering colum lock.. It was serviced once before i bought the car. I have had it in 3 times since last Sept and i put it away for winter for 3 months.. This is the second time in 3 weeks. The first time in sept they actually removed the locking mecanism the car could be turned but it would die after a couple of seconds so a few weeks ago they replaced the harnass and reprogrammed the computer.

All I know is I missed 2 car shows this weekend and a car that you cant depend on aint worth shit !

So who knows what they are going to do to it this time.
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I had these codes pop up after a track day. I'm confused because the B2583 is for two different problems. I don't think I have a column issue because the two codes that were in my BCM were these two. So I'm thinking its a faulty connection on my turn signals and not my column, but why are they the same?


B2578 RF Turn Signal Monitor Circuit (Short to Voltage)
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B2583 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (B)






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I show the code B2583 LF Turn Signal Monitor Circuit (Short to Voltage), but I do not show that as being a possible code for your year car. 2000, correct?
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Does anyone have a description/picture of the recall relay that was added to the BCM? Perhaps a location of the pins that should be jumped if you need to? I have a 99 and I'm trying to figure out if it has been modified by the dealer or has been untouched before I install a CLB.
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I show the code B2583 LF Turn Signal Monitor Circuit (Short to Voltage), but I do not show that as being a possible code for your year car. 2000, correct?
Aren't the codes the same for all C5's

B2583 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (B)
B2583 LF Turn Signal Monitor Circuit (Short to Voltage)

Why are these two the same code number, but two completly different problems. Am I missing something?






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The codes vary slightly from year to year. Check out this link. I am also not findimg that code for your car over at Gear Chatter. Their list is the most comprehensive that I have seen to date.
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Started the car today and got a "charge system fault" code. Drove a couple hundred feet and got a "service column lock" code. Parked at my buddies house, turned off the car, let it sit 2 minutes amd started it up, steering wheel turns freely. Did mine do the opposite of the lock issue??
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Started the car today and got a "charge system fault" code. Drove a couple hundred feet and got a "service column lock" code. Parked at my buddies house, turned off the car, let it sit 2 minutes amd started it up, steering wheel turns freely. Did mine do the opposite of the lock issue??
No. A weak battery can cause column lock issues. Is your battery old? Have you had the bypass kit installed? If you haven't had the kit installed, why not? You column WILL lock up one day and I bet that it will be at the most inconvenient time. Trust me.

Folks who haven't installed this kit, your days are numbered.
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No. A weak battery can cause column lock issues. Is your battery old? Have you had the bypass kit installed? If you haven't had the kit installed, why not? You column WILL lock up one day and I bet that it will be at the most inconvenient time. Trust me.

Folks who haven't installed this kit, your days are numbered.
I had no idea it was a serious issue for our cars. I plan to replace the battery ASAP. Any suggestions?

Shouldn't the dealer fix the problem if it is a known recall issue?

If not, I'll get the kit and install it ASAP. Like, tmorrow!

Thanks for the guidance.

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I had no idea it was a serious issue for our cars. I plan to replace the battery ASAP. Any suggestions?

Shouldn't the dealer fix the problem if it is a known recall issue?

If not, I'll get the kit and install it ASAP. Like, tmorrow!

Thanks for the guidance.

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There never was a recall for this issue. There was a TSB put out to all GM technicians. As for batteries, it depends on how long your car sits idle. The more you drive it, the less opportunity for the battery to die. If you don't drive it that often, get a quality Red Top and a battery tender. The tender is the secret to avoiding battery issues.

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Does anyone have a description/picture of the recall relay that was added to the BCM? Perhaps a location of the pins that should be jumped if you need to? I have a 99 and I'm trying to figure out if it has been modified by the dealer or has been untouched before I install a CLB.


Can anyone help me with this? I have a CLB and have been waiting to install it in my 99 coupe because it sounds like if the dealer has gotten their hands on the car and I put it in, I still run the risk of it being not drivable because of the fuel getting cut at 2mph, am I over thinking this or being overly worried about that versus the column itself locking?
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You're right. You are being overly worried, and you haven't taken your time and read the WHOLE thread. Install your CLB and be done with it. It doesn't matter what the dealer has done, install your CLB.

You should post up in about an hour to say that it has been installed with no problems. Then you should sleep real good for the rest of the time you own the car. Just don't allow your battery to get weak or die. A battery tender would be a good investment.
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