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Old 11-01-2004, 06:29 PM   #1
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Thumbs down! Armed robber gets handed his ass by "extreme fighting" pro

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137310,00.html

Stickup Man Smacked Down by Customers
Monday, November 01, 2004

An alleged restaurant holdup man found tougher customers than he'd bargained for, according to police in Vancouver, Wash.

Russell R. Rogers, 64, walked into Elmer's Restaurant (search) in the Portland, Ore., suburb at about 2 p.m. Oct. 24, brandishing a gun and demanding money, customers and staffers told the Longview, Wash., Daily News.

Enjoying a late Sunday brunch at the restaurant were "extreme fighting" pro Benji Radach (search), 25, and his sparring partners, Dennis Hallman, 28, along with two women.

As other customers ducked under tables or ran out the doors, and the cashier started to hand over money, Radach and Hallman snuck up behind Rogers.

"I kind of went over it in my mind, and walked over there," Radach told the newspaper.

Rogers looked to his left and shouted out that he had a gun. Radach came up behind on the right, grabbed Rogers with a wrist lock and got the pistol out of the gunman's hand.

Radach then forced Rogers' hands back behind him and pushed him face-first to the ground as Hallman frisked him for more weapons. Radach then knocked Rogers out with a blow to the head.

Police booked Rogers for first-degree robbery.

"You see it in movies and you go over it in your mind," Radach later said, "but you never deal with it in real life."

Radach is an expert in Pankration (search), an ancient Greek combination of boxing, kickboxing and wrestling. Also known as "The Razor," he has a 23-3 record in freestyle wrestling and Ultimate Fighting.

"I just know that I've been training for a long time and more than most people," said the 6-foot, 185-pound Radach. "Especially more than someone who's a crook and probably doesn't train."

He later admitted that his decision to take on an armed man was kind of "stupid."

"All he had to do was to turn to his right and he could have shot me," Radach told the Daily News. "But for some reason I felt I could do it. I saw the way [he was looking] and I felt that if I could just get his gun, I could get him to the ground."

His father agreed.

"I should be proud, but the things that goes through a parent's mind," said Kim Radach. "That guy could have turned around and [Benji] could have been bleeding or dead on the ground."

Lorrie Whitlow, the restaurant manager, said the heroes' brunch was on the house, but also had her doubts about future customer heroics.

"I wouldn't recommend that anyone do that," Whitlow said. "But this time, it was a positive result."
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Radach vs. Patrick

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The Juice is currently taking bets....
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Old 11-01-2004, 06:41 PM   #3
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That's just stupid. People taking a stand against crime on their own and everyone looks at it with a negative point of view. That's what courage is: acting in the face of danger. I say good job!
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What a badass! Good work!
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Radach vs. Patrick

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The Juice is currently taking bets....
how about at the Vegas get together? So everyone can see...

GO fighter dude (in the article, not vs Patrick)
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Lucky SOB's I think

Facing off with someone with a gun is really stupid. Risking your life, the cashier’s life and the customer life’s in the restaurant is just plan stupid. All for a few hundred dollars
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Lucky SOB's I think

Facing off with someone with a gun is really stupid. Risking your life, the cashier’s life and the customer life’s in the restaurant is just plan stupid. All for a few hundred dollars


I have taken many self-defense classes, and am fairly proficient in the use of various firearms and other weapons. In each exercise where I was the unarmed "victim", I got shot. Those classes have had a profound effect on me. If I were equally armed, and there was no possible way innocents could be hurt, I'd take a stand because I believe my weapons training would be sufficient. But unarmed, with innocents all around, I don't think so.

Maybe I'm older and wiser than I am strong and quick.
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Fortunately it worked out ok. The wiser decision probably would have been to let him have the money.
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Well....

I know.. a gun is an equalizer but...

I can't help wondering what this 64 year old grandpa looked like...

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I know.. a gun is an equalizer but...

I can't help wondering what this 64 year old grandpa looked like...

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Handsome devil... no wonder..

And are those Ben Wa balls???
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And are those Ben Wa balls???
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Lucky SOB's I think

Facing off with someone with a gun is really stupid. Risking your life, the cashier’s life and the customer life’s in the restaurant is just plan stupid. All for a few hundred dollars
There's nothing I own thats worth risking my life or yours over.
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Re: Well....

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I know.. a gun is an equalizer but...

I can't help wondering what this 64 year old grandpa looked like...

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Hey, Hey ease up on that there talk, yer no spring chicken yerself ya know!

I can do anything I ever could do when I was 25....it just takes me a little longer!

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Hey, Hey ease up on that there talk, yer no spring chicken yerself ya know!

I can do anything I ever could do when I was 25....it just takes me a little longer!

A "little" longer? Who are you trying to fool?
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