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Old 09-22-2012, 01:48 PM   #1
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Starter removal with TPIS Headers

I think I know the answer to this...but if you have long tube headers (TPIS), do you have to remove the exhaust to remove the starter? Seems like yes to me.
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I have not used that particular brand of headers, so I can,t be 100% certain, but in most cases, and with HOOKER and HEADMAN headers you can get access, without removing the headers , but its far easier if you remove or at least partly loosen the header to cylinder head bolts.
but in any case if you have a decent set of (4) 12 ton jack stands ,
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which allow you a good deal of room under the corvette once its up, and a decent floor jack to do it with, and a mechanics creeper or IDEALLY a lift in your shop, its not going to be a major project in any case

yeah! I know a LIFT seems so easy, but in many cases I actually prefer the floor jack,jack stands and creeper, probably the result of 35 years or working that way even though I now have an excellent lift



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I think I know the answer to this...but if you have long tube headers (TPIS), do you have to remove the exhaust to remove the starter? Seems like yes to me.
I cant speak as to the TPIS headers but I know I can get the starter out without removing or loosening my melrose headers. It is a twist and slip and slide type situation though, but it can be done.
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Nope....TPIS headers have to be at least loosened to get the full size starter. No big deal, dont just waste time trying to get it out without getting the headers moved first.

Grumpy, I'm like you...get the car up as high as possible on jack stands and get to work.
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On my '90 I can get the starter out without removing my TPiS headers.
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On my '90 I can get the starter out without removing my TPiS headers.
I didn't have to take the header totally out of the engine bay...just loosen the bolts.

Are you saying a full size stock starter, came out the with headers in full position, bolts tight and stock oil pan? How?
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On my L-98 I could remove the starter without messing with the header, they were Melrose. On my LS with Melrose I have to loosen the header but not to make room to get the starter out but because one of the bolts is too long and it hits the header when loosened so you can't get it out of the starter.
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I didn't have to take the header totally out of the engine bay...just loosen the bolts.

Are you saying a full size stock starter, came out the with headers in full position, bolts tight and stock oil pan? How?
Oh I forgot the earlier models came with full size starters. The'90 has the smaller version as OEM.
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Not long ago i removed my Delco Remy stock 1987 starter
without removing my Hedman's Elite headers.
Like the above description , it was not easy since you have to move and twist the starter a lot to pull it from there.
But it was possible and i succesfully replaced it with
the Hitachi Enforcer mini starter.

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Stainless Works long-tube headers on my 91. had to loosen the header bolts to get the GM 1455702 mini-starter out. the "make-model-year" parts counter gave me a starter that looked the same, but with a shorter motor. more importantly, the mounting block was not as tall, so my original factory starter bolts were too long, bottomed out with 1/4" of starter free play. yeah, I know you're supposed to replace the knurled bolts at every turn.




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thank you for posting the pictures, it verify,s a point alot of guys ignore, that there are dozens of different O.E.M, and aftermarket mini starters, and most will be slightly different in size/length/diameter thus someone with a nearly identical engine and headers may have only minor issues installing/replacing a starter while you might have more extensive and time consuming issues , even mandating, temporary header removal from head studs
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