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Old 05-20-2019, 07:07 PM   #76
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Buddy..





I've never made a penny off of racing. I am a Corvette specialist. Across all generations. I am here to tell you, mechanic, there is money top be made building for people. And that money pays everytime, not just when you're lucky.
You just began not so long ago.
Used to be the Sebring Road Race Dream now your hooked on Drag Racing.

I work on it all .
Been Survival as long as Remember.
New boss actually talked to me most about Diesel trucks.
None of his guys know about.
Got shown the Peterbiilt Semi Truck and 53 foot enclosed Trailer Car Hauler.
I know all about them too.

I have a CDL License also now from the Past School Bus Company.
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It kinda sucks that I am the only one here actually racing. Ya know? Isn't there any others here on DC that go racing with their corvettes? Currently, I mean.
Gunny is A Road Racer.
Really a Street Racer also but he does not want to claim that title.
Going back to 2008 he caught my eye on CFC4.
Telling everyone he was driving 140-180 in his C4 Roadster and the SS IMPALA.
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You just began not so long ago.
Used to be the Sebring Road Race Dream now your hooked on Drag Racing.
Well that's a stretch, but ok. I mean I am trying to create that image for the job..



But I have still only been twice. both times to go with the same car I was building before and after. I don't know if that's 'hooked' or more 'beginning to show interest'.
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It kinda sucks that I am the only one here actually racing. Ya know? Isn't there any others here on DC that go racing with their corvettes? Currently, I mean.
Wiz,

I am glad you have made a few runs in your life and now are a drag racing enthusiast.

I wouldn't call you a racer, but you are getting your feet wet.

Good for you.

I walked away after many years. For what it's worth I have made more runs in a weekend than you have made in your lifetime so far.

I am amused by your authority on the subject now.

Anyway, don't let it consume you. Dispite what anyone says, there is no money to be made in drag racing unless you have big sponsors or get real good in a lower class.

About 15 years ago There was this teacher that rana red ZR1 at Byron.

Bone stock. Ran mid 13's

That thing was so consitant and he was so good at the light, he would make 20 to 30 grand a summer. Some of the no box races would pay out $3000.00 to the winner sometime more.

So it shows you don't have to be fast to win at the brackets.

The faster you go, the more money you spend and more shit breaks.
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I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.
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Well that's a stretch, but ok. I mean I am trying to create that image for the job..



But I have still only been twice. both times to go with the same car I was building before and after. I don't know if that's 'hooked' or more 'beginning to show interest'.
It's pretty close to an 87 Pump gas Record 12.6 ET.
Nothing official in the books.

Years ago a guy in a 1976 Trans Am 455 4-speed with Ported 6H heads ran low 13 s in the Pontiac Mags.

Bruce Fupler of the 421 club did something similar with a Pontiac 350 but I don't recall exact ET.

Clifford Ruggles of Clifford Q-jets did it 87 octane also with a Pontiac 400.
In the 12s somewhere.
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Wiz,

I am glad you have made a few runs in your life and now are a drag racing enthusiast.

I wouldn't call you a racer, but you are getting your feet wet.

Good for you.

I walked away after many years. For what it's worth I have made more runs in a weekend than you have made in your lifetime so far.

I am amused by your authority on the subject now.

Anyway, don't let it consume you. Dispite what anyone says, there is no money to be made in drag racing unless you have big sponsors or get real good in a lower class.

About 15 years ago There was this teacher that rana red ZR1 at Byron.

Bone stock. Ran mid 13's

That thing was so consitant and he was so good at the light, he would make 20 to 30 grand a summer. Some of the no box races would pay out $3000.00 to the winner sometime more.

So it shows you don't have to be fast to win at the brackets.

The faster you go, the more money you spend and more shit breaks.
I mentioned to Ed Today the Entire Midwest tracks are filled with no prep events.
I KNOW THERE IS MONEY TO WON HE SAID !
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For what it's worth I have made more runs in a weekend than you have made in your lifetime so far.
And that is not gonna change. I am a mechanic. A good mechanic. And I built my Corvette. All of it. Like Brian wants to and used to say a real mechanic should. Setup my own motor. Setup my own transmission. Built my own torque tube. setup my own suspension. installed my own electronics. did my own wiring. And tuned it all up. You have to understand how hard it is for me to get into my car and just stab the gas pedal to the floor. I have literally hundreds of hours of my own labor spent that I didn't get paid for getting my stuff to where it is. I like to roll into it and be easy on my stuff. Because I built it. It is my own. And nobody pays me to fix it. I can not be a racer. And never will be.

I will continue to goto the drag strip and hopefully at some point here the road course at PBIR. But only to go play with the stuff I get to build. I will never come close to what you have done in your time, Matt.
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Well that's a stretch, but ok. I mean I am trying to create that image for the job..



But I have still only been twice. both times to go with the same car I was building before and after. I don't know if that's 'hooked' or more 'beginning to show interest'.
I recall the B8 cam does not have much lift.
.480 -500.
.480 seems distinct.

Meant for boost.
Very likely benefit as is from higher ratio rocker arms.
Cam will appear to the engine 4-8 degrees bigger with no idle changes or vacuum changes.
Pontiac did this factory on a few hi po engines new.
1.65 & 1.7 :1.

LS is 1.7 or 1.8.

Valve lift increases also.
Do a half set on intake or exhaust.
Likely wants both sides.

Fresh timing chain set by Cloyes.
Race True Roller made for LS.

They stretch stock from use.
Retards cam timing 8-12 degrees or more.

Cloyess race will only stretch 2 degrees after 10000 miles I have witnessed on my own.
Verfied with cam degree wheel on crank and solid lifter with dial indicator.
Intake centerline method and base circle method checks.

Low buck as you can go right now.

Worth 30-40 Hp in some engines these checks and mods.
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Retards cam timing 8-12 degrees or more.
I don't play with cam timing like that.

I only want to retard the cam 7 degrees if I can do it at a higher rpm and also advance the cam by 8 degrees down low for a real good idle and down low power. What that might look like is I would take a timing cover, cam phaser, hardware, and electrical pigtails off of a L99 motor out of a camaro or something get the cam with the grinds I want for the l99 setup and bolt all that up to the front of my LSX motor before working my controller magic.

But again, it kills me to work for free and all of that sounds like a lot of work.
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I don't play with cam timing like that.

I only want to retard the cam 7 degrees if I can do it at a higher rpm and also advance the cam by 8 degrees down low for a real good idle and down low power. What that might look like is I would take a timing cover, cam phaser, hardware, and electrical pigtails off of a L99 motor out of a camaro or something get the cam with the grinds I want for the l99 setup and bolt all that up to the front of my LSX motor before working my controller magic.

But again, it kills me to work for free and all of that sounds like a lot of work.
It's a full day or 2 on a LS C5 Corvette working clean sanitary.

Done it for Brandon in his race shop.

PTVOC Clearance 6.0 L V8 with hyper cast piston flat top and 230 @ .050 " spec cam with L92 LS3 heads I recall was right on limit of safe.
.530 lift with rockers.
I had .080" intake and .130" Exhaust PTVOC Clearances.
Clay checked. Sliced in 1/2 with a razor blade.
Measued.
Gave me 1 hour shop time got my checks done.
Got in an argument that day again.

YOU WANT THIS ENGINE TO BLOW UP ON THE CHASSIS DYNO OR NOT !
I MAKE MY BLUEPRINT CHECKS OR I QUIT AGAIN.
YELLING BACK AND FORTH.

I GOT MY WAY.
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I don't play with cam timing like that.

I only want to retard the cam 7 degrees if I can do it at a higher rpm and also advance the cam by 8 degrees down low for a real good idle and down low power. What that might look like is I would take a timing cover, cam phaser, hardware, and electrical pigtails off of a L99 motor out of a camaro or something get the cam with the grinds I want for the l99 setup and bolt all that up to the front of my LSX motor before working my controller magic.

But again, it kills me to work for free and all of that sounds like a lot of work.
Eddie told all the Street Racers to get Fucked also.
All except Turbo Joe. Ed says he is Ok yet.
And Downtown Brown also Ok.
He is Black.
I told Ed Downtown is Ok he always paid us .
Yeah I know.
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It's a full day or 2 on a LS C5 Corvette working clean sanitary.
So the next time you find yourself cam swapping a C5 or C6 and you want to come out looking good you will remove the radiator/fan/condenser stack, water pump, steering rack, balancer, timing cover, and valve covers, and rocker arms. Then with 16 pen style extending magnets one down each pushrod hole you will hold the lifters up. Just bend the pocket clip on each magnet out and it will keep the magnet from dropping down the pushrod hole. And the cam swap can happen start to finish in a handful of hours. Before lunch if you have done it a few times and you're trying to make money.

And I will usually check that clearance with a dial indicator. Here is a correct procedure for doing that from Diamond Pistons:

http://blog.diamondracing.net/checki...-the-right-way

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So the next time you find yourself cam swapping a C5 or C6 and you want to come out looking good you will remove the radiator/fan/condenser stack, water pump, steering rack, balancer, timing cover, and valve covers, and rocker arms. Then with 16 pen style extending magnets one down each pushrod hole you will hold the lifters up. Just bend the pocket clip on each magnet out and it will keep the magnet from dropping down the pushrod hole. And the cam swap can happen start to finish in a handful of hours. Before lunch if you have done it a few times and you're trying to make money.

And I will usually check that clearance with a dial indicator. Here is a correct procedure for doing that from Diamond Pistons:

http://blog.diamondracing.net/checki...-the-right-way
No Need for 16 pen style magnets like Hardcore told you almost 6 here years ago now.
I took his Tip and used it a few times.
You take a Wood Dowel Rod 3/8 " inch diameter about 28 inches long cut 2 of them.
Insert to each oil lifter gallery from the Front.
Push the wood dowels in Walla !
Lifters held off the Cam Lobes.
Pull the LS Cam out.

I like The Isky PTVOC Checks better.
It's Super accurate.
More accurate than the Diamond piston way.
The Cam Godfather Ed Iskenderien wrote the article himself back in the year 1965.

Had 1 hr.
No time to install checker valvesprings.
Clay method PTVOC Check I was done in 20 minutes.

The picture of of me on Brandon's website building the 6.0 It's that day.
Pan front cover rear cover and intake and PTVOC Checks done all in 1 hour by me.

He shut the Fuck Brandon that day at least.
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Wiz,

You know I am partial to the C4 drag platform.

A friend of mine (who passed last year) ran NMCA events like me.

He was in a different class.

Bob Curran. you can google him if you want.

From Bartlett Illinois.

Ran 7's in his small block C4. Street legal.

https://www.dragzine.com/news/bob-cu...-street-title/
The New Boss is into Gasser Solid Axle Drag Cars Matt.
He has 4 of them.
2 1941 Willies in his Sales office on Display.
1 has 392 Hemi.
He has a C1 Gasser.
A 1965 Plymouth with a 528 ci Stroker Hemi.
Keeps them at home in his garage.
All been to the World of Wheels.
And Featured in the Car mags.
He showed me yesterday.

One has Mechanical Hilborn
Looked at the picture....Does it have a Belt Drive Fuel pump ? Or did you install an in tank fuel pump ?
FUCK NO BRIAN ITS HAS A BELT DRIVE HILLBORN.

YOU KNOW BRIAN .....FUCK THOSE GUYS !
I AM GOING TO BUILD MY RACECARS LIKE HOW I WANT TO.
FUCK THEM.
LOL.

I showed them pics on my phone yesterday of recent rear ends I built for others local.
I said you know the period correct rear end for Gasser Racecar is the Pontiac 9.3 57-64.
I have a collection at home on the farm.
Got a Big smile ear to ear from the New Boss.
Immediately started talking about Drag Racing !
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No Need for 16 pen style magnets like Hardcore told you almost 6 here years ago now
September 2010 buddy. That is when I started chasing performance and rebuilding Corvettes everyday. 6 years ago when all that shit went down with hardcore I was already pretty set in my ways to the tune of 4 years. But then, isn't that how all the shit went down in the first place? Was specifically my apprehension to 10 sets of spark plugs to tune?! Why yes that's exactly it. 6 years ago I had already done a shit ton of cam swaps on LS you dumb son of a bitch. We don't all live in a fantasy land like you. Some of us are actually out in the world living it and doing it. So sorry none here seem to be able to motivate past their keyboard.

But you know, it is absolutely flattering how you seem to want to keep claiming bits of my knowledge as your own. You are the CNN of DC, brian.
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