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Old 11-06-2018, 08:37 PM   #46
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It takes a Unique mindset...
No such thing as Safe Zone Drag racing.
10's & Faster.
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Also went down on Grumpys.


When they worry about cruising speeds with Overdrive, Its all over for 10s 1/4 mile.
Learned to talk about safe zone.
It makes them happy.


Once in a while I find True Drag racers on forums.

All on Facebook now.


One on Grumps recent.
Full Drag cam solid lifter in a 401 AMC.
Helped him.
He vanished.
Sign of a true racer.
No safe zone wanted at all.
Rev High & make the HP.
Win.
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I seen a lot of what I call show glammer cars.
I don't know what you are talking about..

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Old 11-06-2018, 09:25 PM   #49
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I don't know what you are talking about..

Interesting to look at.

It all started with the Oldsmobile Super Rocket 303 engine.

Then there was the Corvette.

Then Pontiac put Mopar to shame 1959-1963..
Drag Racing.
Then Pontiac got Banned.

Then they made The 1964 GTO.
Stuck a 1963 Super Duty 421 in it packing 550 Hp.
Terrified Ferrari.
No Show to Race.
Left the Ferrari GTO on the Trailer and went back home.

Then they made The 396 BBC 1965 Corvette.

Then the L88.
Holy Fuck Fast Sports Car Corvette.
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Once in a while I find True Drag racers on forums.
I am so sorry but I know by now you must know I am no drag racer. I am all about order and priorities and correctness. And I very much see the stark thick black lines that divide street, strip, and show. If I had just one wish in this world it would be that everybody else would stop trying to bleed or blend those lines. It doesn't make cars better. The best things in this world are purpose built. A car for the street, A car to show off, and a car to race with at the track. Why in the hell would you want to get your show car dirty and stain your chrome by running it at all and why would you want to be as uncomfortable at each and every stop light as you are at the staging lane trying to focus on the tree as you violently shake about? And why would you want to sit at that same tree with a low power street car with a nice idle from a mild cam?

The best things in this world are purpose built. A place for everything and everything in it's place. We are technicians. We are smarter than the herd and we know how to build for the street, and we know how to build for the strip, and we know how to build for show. So why in the holy f*ck are we trying to make one car fit all these needs if we know they are different and we know how to build for each? A place for everything and everything in it's place. We ride to work in 72 degree weather and when we get to work we don't smell like raw fuel. This is my approach to working in this industry.
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Interesting to look at.

It all started with the Oldsmobile Super Rocket 303 engine.

Then there was the Corvette.

Then Pontiac put Mopar to shame 1959-1963..
Drag Racing.
Then Pontiac got Banned.

Then they made The 1964 GTO.
Stuck a 1963 Super Duty 421 in it packing 550 Hp.
Terrified Ferrari.
No Show to Race.
Left the Ferrari GTO on the Trailer and went back home.

Then they made The 396 BBC 1965 Corvette.

Then the L88.
Holy Fuck Fast Sports Car Corvette.

That was before we started to care about pollution and emissions. By 1975 emission standards and our primitive understanding at the time of how to control such a thing brought about a 350 sbc that produced 165hp. But that was in 1975. 43 years ago now. Today we make multiples more power and blow a fraction of the emissions. What happened in the early to mid 70's was necessary for the auto industry and indeed our planet.
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I am so sorry but I know by now you must know I am no drag racer. I am all about order and priorities and correctness. And I very much see the stark thick black lines that divide street, strip, and show. If I had just one wish in this world it would be that everybody else would stop trying to bleed or blend those lines. It doesn't make cars better. The best things in this world are purpose built. A car for the street, A car to show off, and a car to race with at the track. Why in the hell would you want to get your show car dirty and stain your chrome by running it at all and why would you want to be as uncomfortable at each and every stop light as you are at the staging lane trying to focus on the tree as you violently shake about? And why would you want to sit at that same tree with a low power street car with a nice idle from a mild cam?

The best things in this world are purpose built. A place for everything and everything in it's place. We are technicians. We are smarter than the herd and we know how to build for the street, and we know how to build for the strip, and we know how to build for show. So why in the holy f*ck are we trying to make one car fit all these needs if we know they are different and we know how to build for each? A place for everything and everything in it's place. We ride to work in 72 degree weather and when we get to work we don't smell like raw fuel. This is my approach to working in this industry.
Dodge is doing what Pontiac used to do best.
Put a Race Car on the Street and be reliable.
Start when it's -20 f.
Not overheat when it's 100 F.
Street Race and not break fail.
Run to the grocery store.
Pick up the kids.
Do errands.
Road trip.
Many had 3.90 or 4.33 diff gears.
No Overdrive.
Last 100,000 miles too.

Bam killed Pontiac.

Expectations are real high placed on a Corvette since.
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Dodge is doing what Pontiac used to do best.

Right. But the Dodge brothers died before Pontiac went under. And I think maybe that is why they choose to follow that business model? IDK. But I hope dodge learns and makes a course correction before its too late. Today we like R&D and innovation. Not old school sh*t sold for top dollar.
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Right. But the Dodge brothers died before Pontiac went under. And I think maybe that is why they choose to follow that business model? IDK. But I hope dodge learns and makes a course correction before its too late. Today we like R&D and innovation. Not old school sh*t sold for top dollar.
Corvettes have always been expensive new.

The Camaro is a Fat Pig.
It Weighs more than my all steel 1963 Grand Prix.

Everyone has thier own idea of Race Car Corvette.

Mine is you don't need all the toys bullshit.
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Bam killed Pontiac.
No. And it is important that you understand the realities of this industry as long as you make a living in it:
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/ponti...tinue-pontiac/

We all goto work to chase money not what we want. And Pontiac wasn't bringing in any money. For many years they were a fiscally dead company before GM decided to pull the plug. This does not mean they could not produce a nice vehicle. This just means that they strayed from what the world wants. But it does mean that.
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It Weighs more than my all steel 1963 Grand Prix.

Everyone has thier own idea of Race Car Corvette.

Mine is you don't need all the toys bullshit.
Antilock brakes
Traction Control
Airbags
crumple zones
IIHS crash safety standards

These things are not toys bullshit. They are how we keep ourselves and the ones we love alive and safe.
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Mine is you don't need all the toys bullshit.
I am with you on the purpose built racecar. Through and through. I just cant see that lsx willy's jeep racing on streets in south Florida where I live. But I do not think a racecar should have a/c or a stereo, or many creature comforts at all. I will only ever argue what belongs where with you. But we are totally in agreeance on how to build a racecar.

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I am with you on the purpose built racecar. Through and through. I just cant see that lsx willy's jeep racing on streets in south Florida where I live. But I do not think a racecar should have a/c or a stereo, or many creature comforts at all. I will only ever argue what belongs where with you. But we are totally in agreeance on how to build a racecar.
And I think that is the big problem with our B15 powered C5. If we could just say it is a car for the track anf get past the vanity of the 20's we could really get some good results.
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No. And it is important that you understand the realities of this industry as long as you make a living in it:
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/ponti...tinue-pontiac/

We all goto work to chase money not what we want. And Pontiac wasn't bringing in any money. For many years they were a fiscally dead company before GM decided to pull the plug. This does not mean they could not produce a nice vehicle. This just means that they strayed from what the world wants. But it does mean that.
Bam is A Democrat & A Racist.


Do You know what the old joke is what Chevy Street Racers used to tell the Pontiac Street Racers ?


Poor Old N####R Thought It Was A Cadillac.
Bam heard the Joke one too many times.
1st Chance he had he killed Pontiac.


The Joke never bothered me from my Chevy Street Race Buds here.
I would laugh.
Fire up the 1970 Trans Am.
They Be up front of my old house waiting.
Drive off & Hammer down.
Spank them with 455 RAIV 4-speed Power.
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Antilock brakes
Traction Control
Airbags
crumple zones
IIHS crash safety standards

These things are not toys bullshit. They are how we keep ourselves and the ones we love alive and safe.

No air bags in my 1987 Corvette.
I am still alive.


No Seat Belts even in my 1963 Pontiac Grand Prix.
It was never built with them.
It is a Rare factory option.
I am still Alive.


Crumple zones on the 1970 Trans Am.
No other safety listed above other than Drag Race RJS Racing seat belts and Real Nice Recaro Racing seats.
I am still alive.
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