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Old 10-24-2008, 04:48 PM   #106
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Wow, that 401 plan is scary
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Old 10-24-2008, 05:08 PM   #107
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Obama has run his campaign for 2 years now. He has maintained excelent discipline in himself and his staff for that period. He defeated the most likely candidate to be the Democratic nominee, from out of nowhere. If you don't think that is running a good campaign my friend, you are kidding yourself.
We just disagree on the value of running a campaign as opposed to running a businss. People don't donate hundreds of millions to businesses. You have to earn it.

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I disagree with your analysis of taxes driving up prices to the poor. Did prices go way down when Bush cut taxes to the wealthy? Nope.
By comparison to?

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As for companies running to other countries.....these unpatriotic bastards should be taxed much higher to get back into the US market if they move out of the country. Like Obama wants to do.
His answer to everything is taxes? Tax em for staying and tax em for going? force them to pay insurance or fine (tax) them. He is no friend of business in any way shape or form.

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This is the problem with trickle down economics. If this was the only country in the world it would make sense that if you give the wealthy people more money they will spend more and help the economy. But when you can instead take that extra money and send it to another country all you do is drain our country of capital.
Trickle down has a much better chance than trickle up, true? And the governement isn't going to send all that extra money to the poor, they will appease them with a morsel here and there and continue spending like drunken sailrs.

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As for your argument about energy...you are way off. Government has helped every business that you mention.
Actually back then the federal government had neither the reach nor resources to do all you say. That came much later on after the federal government had grown bloated and out of it's bounds.

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As for party mantras and party ideology...I think that here is where we can find our core differences. The republican party has forever had the mantra of small government and staying out of our lives. But thier mantra has not been followed for way too long. This act of saying one thing and doing another is destroying this country. I for one see the government getting involved in a womans decision to get pregnant or not, or to cary a pregnancy through or not, as definitly not staying out of their lives. I see Reagans and Bushs increase in size of government as totaly in contrast to what the republican party promises.
The statement above makes no sense compared to your stance. IMO.

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Wow, that 401 plan is scary
Way beyond scary. That is a fuggin nightmare and anyone smart will get the hell out now. Once they impound it, it will be like SS you will send them 5% on top of your 7.25% and get a return of about .3% when your old.



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We are in a recession different from any recession we have faced.
There is no way anybody's model for taxes can anticipate the outcome.
The recession, inflation and job losses are already on their own uncharted paths.
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We are in a recession different from any recession we have faced.
There is no way anybody's model for taxes can anticipate the outcome.
The recession, inflation and job losses are already on their own uncharted paths.
No, it is well charted in Modern American history. The problem is, nobody knows anything about history because it isn't taught very well these days. Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it. This is 1929 and the 30's are coming fast.



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