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Old 03-02-2015, 10:11 AM   #91
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I understand your explanation, I just don't understand how the president can do what you are saying he can't do. Do you see the contradiction? Also, why don't the states just ignore what he said to do if he doesn't have the authority? What's there to take to court if it can't be done by law?

It's like suing the police for a speeding ticket when you were speeding. Why would a judge even waste time presiding over a case like that? You can't speed by law so there is no case.
It's just having the "sue me" mentality and knowing it will take a long time to work it's way through the courts. The INS people have no alternative but to obey his orders -- they work for him. It's up to injured parties (usually states) to try to stop it. What he hopes is that the courts will allow his order to stand while it is being litigated. What the states want is a stay order during that time. This Texas judge granted a stay, which the Justice Dept (who works for the President) is appealing to an appeals court hoping to get the stay reversed. If they can, Obama knows that he can essentially bestow legal residency to millions of people and get them benefits before it works it way to the Supreme Court. It's a game, and our democracy is not supposed to be gamed that way. Yes, lots of Presidents pass executive orders. But is usually to iron out problems with laws to give Congress time to change the law. In other words, it's usually in concert with Congress. This is just bad precedent and really does smack of monarchy.
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That exactly what I joked about earlier! So I wasn't far off at all!
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No one said that the sitting administration is without fault. There has NEVER been an administration without fault. Hell, even Reagan's popularity ratings were IN THE TOILET just before he got shot. However, the economy has taken a serious upturn and I haven't seen one thread about that. As a matter of fact, I don't think any of you hardcore pubs will as much as acknowledge that things a much better than they were in 2008, economy wise.

You willing to admit that?
I will admit to smoke and mirrors, but I can't argue with someone that can not find any fault with the current administration and will not consider the facts.
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I will admit to smoke and mirrors, but I can't argue with someone that can not find any fault with the current administration and will not consider the facts.
I don't see where anyone here claiming that the current administration is without any fault or issues. The fact that you are claiming that shows your bias and disdain for the current administration.
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I don't see where anyone here claiming that the current administration is without any fault or issues. The fact that you are claiming that shows your bias and disdain for the current administration.
Unfortunately, it was the antics of this administration that caught my attention in regards to politics. My disdain is not only for the president, but also most of the 535 with the exception of a handful.
When almost all of congress who enters and leaves a multimillionaire even though they only make 200k$ a year, you know there are problems with the system.
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I agree! There are problems across the board, but there are those here who act like none of these problem started until 2008. The funny thing is when I drive through left leaning states and listen to the left leaning radio stations, they claim that everything is as rosy as it has ever been and no problems exist at all. What that taught me is that you cannot look at ONE TV show or national news outlet and get the true scoop. The truth lies somewhere in the vast middle, which is why I want to be a moderate.

Both sides spit enough garbage to fill up the Atlantic Ocean.
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