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Old 06-17-2006, 04:07 PM   #1
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Tested: Corvette C6 Z06 vs Ferrari 430 vs Gallardo vs Porsche 997 turbo

Well, first supecartest I've seen between these cars. Test was performed by the German magazine Auto Zeitung that I never heard of although I live in Sweden close to Germany. Results are not so good for the Z06:

Summary of key statistics (order: Z06 / F430 / Gallardo / 997TT Manual with SC):

0-100 kph: 4.4s / 3.8s / 4.2s / 3.9s
0-200 kph: 13.0s / 12.2s / 13.4s / 12.5s
Top Speed: 320kph / 316 / 315 / 310
Handling: 1:39.4 / 1:38.1 / 1:38.2 / 1:38.1
Handlung: 63.5kph / 69.2 / 69.1 / 67.2
Stopping Distance: 35.1 / 33.4 / 33.4 / 33.2

F430 and Gallardo were equipped with Corsa tires.

Here's a link to rennteam.com where they discuss the article.

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php... fpart=1&vc=1

I have a feeling that this test is BS. What do you think?
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First, I think the driver shifted too early to get a 0-100 time like that.
Second, I think with those huge six-pot brakes, the Z06 would at least be equal to any car in the test.
Third, I think road course superiority has already been illustrated on the 'ring. If they put a Carrera GT in the mix, then I would understand...

Fourth, after having driven the new Z (albeit modified somewhat), I can't imagine numbers that slow...

At least they got the top speed about right.
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Well, first supecartest I've seen between these cars. Test was performed by the German magazine Auto Zeitung that I never heard of although I live in Sweden close to Germany. Results are not so good for the Z06:

Summary of key statistics (order: Z06 / F430 / Gallardo / 997TT Manual with SC):

0-100 kph: 4.4s / 3.8s / 4.2s / 3.9s
0-200 kph: 13.0s / 12.2s / 13.4s / 12.5s
Top Speed: 320kph / 316 / 315 / 310
Handling: 1:39.4 / 1:38.1 / 1:38.2 / 1:38.1
Handlung: 63.5kph / 69.2 / 69.1 / 67.2
Stopping Distance: 35.1 / 33.4 / 33.4 / 33.2

F430 and Gallardo were equipped with Corsa tires.

Here's a link to rennteam.com where they discuss the article.

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php... fpart=1&vc=1

I have a feeling that this test is BS. What do you think?
LOL

What do I think? Itís pathetic.
200kph is ~125mph
0-200 kph in 13.0s for Z06?

I think even a cripple could drive faster than that.
I think the desperation of Europeans dealing with the cold hard fact that C6 Z06 simply dominates top end Euro cars in all performance aspects is quite evident by this abomination of a test.

Compare to test result from C&D for example:
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...z06-page4.html


Z06 was tested
0-120mph in 11.0
0-130mph in 12.8

And itís not just this one test. Compare to virtually any test of C6 Z06, these pathetic number are not even close.

Despicable!
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P.S. Majority of members on rennteam.com are equally in denial.


Just reading there responses one canít help but roll his eyes.
Theyíre hopelessly and forever ignorant about Corvettes handling capabilities.
Any test data affirming Z06ís superiority to Porsches on the road course (such as The Ringís time of 7.42.9) gets dismissed with ďI donít buy itĒ

Unbelievable!
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We seem to agree that the article is BS and it's confirmed by the test times I've put together from other European magazines, look below:

C6 Z06
ams 06/2006
0 - 100 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 11,9 s

sport auto 04/2006
0 - 100 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 12,0 s

F430
ams 09/2005
0 - 100 km/h 3,9 s
0 - 200 km/h 13,0 s

sport auto 01/2006
0 - 100 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 12,6 s

997 Turbo
ams 13/2006
0 - 100 km/h 3,7 s
0 - 200 km/h 12,3 s

Auto Zeitung 06/2006
0 - 100 km/h 3,9 s
0 - 200 km/h 12,5 s

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We seem to agree that the article is BS and it's confirmed by the test times I've put together from other European magazines, look below:

C6 Z06
ams 06/2006
0 - 100 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 11,9 s

sport auto 04/2006
0 - 100 km/h 4,0 s
0 - 200 km/h 12,0 s
0-200km/h in ~11.9 - 12.0s numbers seem to agree with the C&D test numbers I posted as well
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Old 06-17-2006, 09:28 PM   #7
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They tested a C6 A6 and mistook it for a Z06?

Those performance stats look more like a C6 A6 not a Z06....
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They tested a C6 A6 and mistook it for a Z06?

Those performance stats look more like a C6 A6 not a Z06....
No.. it was a Z06 as per their site

but lookup this earlier test were they have achieved 3.9 sec 0-100 km !!

Page 3
http://www.autozeitung.de/images/car...orvetteZ06.pdf
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One thing that should also be pointed out is that the C6 Z06 is on Z rated run flats while the Ferrari and Lamborghini are on competition tires.
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No.. it was a Z06 as per their site

but lookup this earlier test were they have achieved 3.9 sec 0-100 km !!

Page 3
http://www.autozeitung.de/images/car...orvetteZ06.pdf
I don't think that is a test time....rather the official time from GM...
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Who cares what magazine tests say?? I don't care at all... CORVETTE RULEZZ!!!!!
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I REALLY wish the Z06 came standard with non-run flat ultra performance tires! Make the run flats optional Chevy!

But the fact that Europeans are even testing the Z06 against these cars tells you a lot about their impression of it.

However one thing that seems to be consistently misrepresented in the European media is the Z06's fuel efficiency. They seem to lump it into an old gas-guzzling stereotype about large American engines and they never mention its the ONLY supercar that avoids the gas guzzler tax.
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STAR AND STRIPES - FASZINATION AUTO CORVETTE Z06
WWW.AUTOZEITUNG.DE - TEXT Michael Godde PHOTOGRAPHS Willy Bister

If the American flag before the white house is go-eaten, it does not give Aufl up. But if General Motors starts a new Corvette, the US Boys sinks in collective Andaechtigkeit. If the Z06 rolls, strongest Corvette of all times, on the stage, the lovers salute. We drove the supersportsman on the racing course.

CAPTION: The Sting Ray of 1962 with the legendary Split Window was the first Corvette with Big block V8.

AMERICA HEART STRIKES WITH EIGHT CYLINDERS

Those 1953 presented Corvette is the oldest acting sports car of the world for the first time. Mercedes brings it with the SL only on 52 years, and Porsche 911 is also straight 42 Lenzen still another Jungspund. Nevertheless some people think that this American sportscar is only a kind of inflated Bodybuilder, state quasi a case for the Dopingliste. That may be because of the fact that these ignorant people were not ever with a Corvette on a racetrack. Already not at all with the Z06, the strongest and fastest Corvette of all times. We can put in a word there, because we were with the Z06 on the French ex-Grand-Prix-racing course Paul Ricard, who by the way ndet itself in the private property of Formel-1-boss Bernie Ecclestone befi. To the papierform: 512 HP, drawn from seven litres capacity, are to bring the 1418 Kilos of the Z06 in 3.9 seconds on speed to 100. Maximum speed 320 km/h. Deeply in the back and far down in the engine compartment the large V8 lurks. However this is no langhubiger Big block, but a hand-made Small block. American HP culture since more than a half century. In the Z06 the file T-fitting to the largest and strongest Small block of all times, equipped with a technology, which outdated European sportscar manufacturers considered already decades ago. Only a down-lying cam shaft lifts and lowers the 16 valves - over push rods. General Motors fi ndet that evolution is better than or other revolution of Europe. Nevertheless: All mobile drive components are made from lightweight construction materials and are problem free at high revs. The V8 remains only briefly, before it pushes the Z06 with condition gas brabbelnd from the box lane. Everything that comes then, is greed for numbers of revolutions. 7000 routes in the first course are 110 kilometers per hour. No trace of difficulty in breathing at high numbers of revolutions, the Corvette Z06 seems to open only times the second Lungenfl uegel, it presses its driver unyieldingly into the thick leather pads. Through the enormous throat the bubbling eight-cylinder sucks its air. Those hisses past at plate-large valves, and pistons with a diameter of 104,8 millimeters already press the explosive cocktail together, the explosions are enormous.

CAPTION: Inside the Z06 without Schnickschnack gets along. The different information of the Head UP display in the windshield shines only in the evening. Purists are content gladly with the six round instruments (left). The seats of the Z06 are easier and offer above all more side stop than those of 404 HP strong C6 Corvette. The steering wheel can be adjusted also in longitudinal direction.

Under full load stands to the roar of the eight-cylinder then nothing more in the way: The exhaust system opens its flaps - hammering and stampfen remind of the time, when American herds of buffalo thundered still freely over the prairie and the Sioux the white ones skalpierten. With these V8-hymn, which changes its clock during each shifting process jaggedly, the Z06 the muck ral straight line of Paul Ricard marches up. The straight line is long, very long. But even briefly before the brake point, with speed 250, electronics of the unrestrained strength must put on still the zuegel for the correct straight line discharge. Because still prevent individual Wasserfl aechen on the runway the Corvette to unfold free. Although already the Jagdfi packed its driver more eber: The compact steering wheel fits itself well in the hand, those for the Z06 of again formed sport seats bevels ever more intimately. More curves ask. Slowly the runway dries, the 325er-Goodyears at the rear axle of the Corvette sticks on the bitumen like the power Tape of Pattex. Without electronic regulatory contacts the foot controls - so long it only beautifully sensitively remains - the merciless achievement.

THE ZO6 UNCONDITIONALLY FOLLOWS EACH INSTRUCTION

CAPTION: A mechanic screws the largest Small block of all times in manual work together (down). At the tail the small spoiler provides for more drift, and the four final pipes trombones inoffi the zielle American national anthem (right). Ideal line or crosswise, the Z06 controls each discipline.

A treat for step dancers and Virtuosen of the Pedalerie. The Z06 talks with its driver like no Corvette before. Who deals here with accelerotor pedal, brake and steering element dear, drives the supersports cars always at the edge to more, precisely on the ideal line. Or to the Freedance in the curves. And if necessary it knows the Corvette also gladly crosswise. And the brakes? Firmly like vices, but with the fine feeling of a uhrmachers the front six-piston saddles and the rear four-piston saddles press their single linings with necessity against ventilated and punched disks - jerk point-exactly, twitch up to the stop or into the curve. The Corvette obeys each instruction. The confidence to it grows with each kilometer, even with Topspeed can the Z06 without damp hands be moved. A rather sophisticated spoiler work and a special Unterboden with Ground Effect press it reliably on the runway. More still than its germ cell, the C6R-Rennboliden limited by the regulation, General Motors goennt the Z06 the erlesensten materials. Everything is easily and extremely loadable. The chassis consists of aluminum, it is strengthened with carbon fiber, the sand yielding soil of carbon has a Balsaholzkern. However the Kotfl modelled from carbon fiber uegel weighs approximately six Kilos per piece less than those the civilian variant. Driving bolster and parts of the roof structure manufacture GM made of magnesium. Effi zienz within all ranges - therefore it goes with the Z06. But body and interior lives had to abspecken, engine and chassis however add - engineers strengthened here each construction unit. Corvette Desinger Zora Duntov was it, which in the year 1963 - after General Motors 1957 offi the ziellen running employment of the Corvette had forbidden - for the first time the PRO-Z06-Kit customer offered. Today its 63er-Sting Ray models with sport package ranks among the most in demand pieces of lover. With the new Z06 goes the theatre again well loosely: The models for 2006 are according to data of the importer already sell off. Because GM operates again offi ziell racing. With ten victories in eleven running secured itself the run Vette C6R in the last year 2005 the historical fourth GT1-Sieg with the 24-Stunden-Rennen von Le Mans.

DRIVE
V8-cylinder-Motor
Capacity: 7011 cc
Achievement: 512 HP (377 KW)
with 6000 /min
max. torque: 637 Nm with 4800 /min
Drilling x stroke: 98.5 x 92 mm
Power transmission: Six-gearbox manual
Rear-wheel drive

AUFBAU+FAHRWERK
all around: Aluminum double wishbone, group leaf springs crosswise inserted, absorber, stabilizers
all around: ventilated disks
lengthens broad x height: 4459/1927/1246 mm
wheel base: 2686 mm?
Unloaded weight: 1418 kg of

BASIC DATA
0 - 100 km/h: 3.9 s
Hoechstgeschw.: 320 km/h
European Union consumption: 14.7 l (FR)
Price: 79,950 euro
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zo6 vs f430 vs gallardo

I've driven the f430 and the gallardo like few of their owners ever will. I've had lots of track time in the c6z06 and i own a c6 z/51 6 spd. They are all tremendous cars. You need to be a very trained driver to ever get close to the performance limit of any of these cars. Yes, the z06 seems a little slow. There are many differences between these cars. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. For 70k the vette is outstanding. But the feel of the italian cars, the steering and the fit and finish not too mention the sound is why they cost 200k. If money were no object the f430 wins,although the Gallardo feels more planted with fourwheel drive. But for nonmillionaires the z06 or even more of a bargain the z/51 6 spd is super. The only concerning issue with the c6 are its recalls. Clutch, roof. The c5 in my ownership experience seemed to have fewer recalls and overall better quality.The J.D. Powers surveys seem to accurately reflect this. I think the best recent corvette for quality was the 2004 z06. Ask the people at Spring Mountain they still have these cars running well with over 30.000 track miles. My 2004 was bullit proof. I wish I could say that about the c6.
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I have seen Ranger do 1/4 mile in 11.2-11.3 at 127 mph. A few other Z-06's have been in the 125-127 mph and say mid 11's all on factory tires. That said if 200 KPH equals 124 mph then that would indicate the Corvette may be able to squeak out a high 10 or very low 11 second 200 KPH time which is well ahead of the pack.
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