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As I've said before, I think the lead-up to any next presidential election is extremely interesting. Especially the winnowing of candidates for the out party. New article analyzes the chances for the current front-runners and puts them in 3 categories: believeable, conceivable and unachievable. Even though the writer is a Boston liberal, I have to say I think he is very close. He did, however leave out Donald Trump, and has a lesser known dark horse named John Huntsman - former governor of Utah. Here is the bottom line of his analysis:

Unachievable: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Haley Barbour,
Rick Santorum, Ron Paul and Michelle Bachman

Believable: Mitt Romney, Mitch Daniels, Tim Pawlenty

Conceivable: Mike Huckabee, John Huntsman

What do you think?

Link: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/e...es/2011/03/04/2012_yes_maybe_and_unelectable/
 

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We'll have to wait until it gets closer. If for some reason Obamas numbers climb.. Why would a legitimate candidate try the fight?

I'm not sure of the real pool of candidates but I foresee either someone coming out of retirement or an unknown like Huntsman stepping up this run.
 

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He also left off Cain.

I just heard Cain give an interview on WLS radio Chicago.

I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. :thumbsup:
Cain or Trump for POTUS!

http://www.hermancain.com/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-13/herman-cain-for-president-maybe/

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/top_ten_reasons_to_support_her.html

January 26, 2011
Top Ten Reasons to Support Herman Cain for President
By C. Edmund Wright

Even those conservatives who will not vote for Herman Cain to win the Republican nomination should hope that he does run -- and that his candidacy lasts a long time during the nomination process, perhaps even succeeding.


Not the least of reasons is that a Cain candidacy would be a hoot. And I do not mean that in a derisive or condescending way at all. I mean that it would be the kind of doggone honest and refreshing campaign the country needs. It would be the opposite of the stale McCain run. Cain does not speak Washington drivel, and he's not afraid to take a strong position. Dare I say it? He'll call a spade a spade, and he'll reach across the aisle only to smack someone down. He will admit what McCain would not: that we do have a lot to fear from an Obama presidency.


Herman Cain is peerless among the long list of potential candidates -- and his impact on the field and the direction of the party will be in the direction of free enterprise, less government, and speaking with boldness -- you know, pretty much the opposite of what the GOP has done since Newt's Congress lost steam in the mid- to late '90s.


To codify, here are the top reasons to support Cain based on my observation of the man over a period of years:


10. The "race card": A Cain candidacy not only takes the race card off the table -- it might in fact put it in the Republicans' camp. Frankly, Cain is "blacker" than Obama in every way imaginable. He does not have a white parent. He has a slight black dialect and does not "turn it off" to impress Harry Reid or Joe Biden, nor does he "amp it up" to impress Jeremiah Wright.


As Obama's presidency has shown, America did not need a black president. What America needs is to just get over the race thing, period. Cain is over it, and I bet he would flat-out tell Obama to get over it, too.


9. Been there, done that: Cain brings a lot of "been there, done that" to the office, and that is in stark contrast not only to Obama, but to almost anyone else running. Cain is not shy about making fun of politicians' lack of understanding of the reality of the free-enterprise system, and certainly no group embodies that ignorance more than Obama and his administration. Making a payroll; dealing with employees, the IRS, the INS, insurance companies; dealing with rents, lawsuits, unemployment commissions, etc. -- Cain has been there, done that. Obama has not.


8. Not forgettable: One Herman Cain soundbite is worth ten from Tim...um, what's his name? Oh, yeah, Pawlenty. Cain's boldness and confidence and accent and voice will cut through the noise out there, and this makes his candidacy dangerous even if he faces some financial handicaps versus other folks running. He is a talk radio host now by trade and knows how to hold folks' attention.


7. Will break every rule set for him by "strategists": This one might be my favorite. Cain has never counted on political strategists to get him where he is now, and this alone separates him from all other candidates. Lord help the first "strategist" from the RNC who advises Cain to "tone it down" or "soften his position."



6. Will really get under the skin of the Washingtonian class: A Cain candidacy would drive David Brooks to apoplexy. Charles Krauthammer -- doing his best to run off legions of his longtime fans -- would no doubt find some Palinesque reasons to object to Cain. And those are the conservative ruling-class folks. Imagine what the liberals will say about this non-Ivy league, non-elected Southern black guy running for president. I can't wait to hear it.


5. Will not get in way of the 2010 Congress' momentum: This might be the most important reason to support a Cain candidacy. He has gained momentum as part of the Tea Party movement that was the defining factor in the 2010 congressional elections. A Cain candidacy would be in lockstep with what the country told Congress it wanted in November 2010. It will be an extension of the 2010 campaign, and that's preferable to a presidential election that will distract from the 2010 results.


4. Never held office before: While Cain's opponents -- on both sides of the aisle -- are licking their chops over this one, they should rethink this. Mr. Cain already has a lethal (can we still say that?) response to this one: "Everyone in Washington has held public office before. How's that working out for you?" Case closed.


3. Ann Coulter's second-favorite pick: So Ann's first choice is Chris Christie, and Cain comes in second. With some 25 names floating around out there, being number 2 on anyone's list is pretty good at this point in the game. Besides, I predict that Cain will overtake Christie on Ann's list. Cain is more conservative and even less afraid to speak his mind. While I love Christie's boldness on the issues where he is conservative, he will wobble off to the Jersey left a bit on some issues. Cain will not.


2. Will not be cowed by the new speech police: The attempt by the left to silence conservatives in light of the Tucson shootings will not be the last. And you can bet that when they do, some on the right will recoil and fall prey, regardless of how mindless the attempts are. If you have followed Herman Cain, you know that this will not be an issue for him.


And the number one reason to support a Cain candidacy? It opens the door to a ticket of Cain and Haley Barbour in some order. OK, maybe this is not earthshaking, but imagine the "racist Republican Party" putting forth a national ticket including a drawlin' Mississippi good ol' boy and a black businessman who still speaks a smidgen of Ebonics.



This would be the hope and change America thought they were getting in 2008. This would be ticket not so much of "racial healing" as it would be the ticket of "just get over the race thing." Because liberalism is joined at the hip with the race pimp industry, a liberal African-American cannot by definition do for the country what a black conservative can. A black liberal winning reinforces counterproductive stereotypes. A conservative black winning crushes them. Period.


Yes, I know that reasons number one and ten seem a lot alike. They are. We have just about destroyed our country trying to put this issue to bed, and the result is that tensions are higher than they were before Obama was elected. Which we predicted.


A Cain presidency would actually go a long way towards solving this. And besides, Mr. Cain has some great ideas for getting government out of our way and letting America be America again. And we all need that.
 

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I really like Cain, too. But you and I are politics watchers. 90% of Americans are not. Cain has never been elected to anything and has no name recognition right now. I think he is a long shot, but I am rooting for him. :thumbsup:
 

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I really like Cain, too. But you and I are politics watchers. 90% of Americans are not. Cain has never been elected to anything and has no name recognition right now. I think he is a long shot, but I am rooting for him. :thumbsup:
He sounds good in public.. but in private I think too many big corps won't wan't someone who sticks to their guns.. It's in corp america's best interests to have a smarmy back peddling politician in place. Think about it.. when trying to scam, steal, opress-- do you want someone who will call you out or someone who will make it sound allright?
 

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If the GOP runs anyone besides Ron Paul or Chris Christie, it won't matter because it will be business as usual. We would have been scammed one more time.. by letting the elite and the media decide who our choices are, and they will both be owned same as the last 5.
 

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He sounds good in public.. but in private I think too many big corps won't wan't someone who sticks to their guns.. It's in corp america's best interests to have a smarmy back peddling politician in place. Think about it.. when trying to scam, steal, opress-- do you want someone who will call you out or someone who will make it sound allright?
I don't agree. I think big and small business alike are wanting some one with conviction and a long term view so that they can plan and invest. Large business and small alike are sitting on their money right now. A pro-business, pro-capitalist, with a vision of the future is what they want. The time of wishy washy, change direction with the wind, old school politicians needs to change.
 

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If the GOP runs anyone besides Ron Paul or Chris Christie, it won't matter because it will be business as usual. We would have been scammed one more time.. by letting the elite and the media decide who our choices are, and they will both be owned same as the last 5.
While I like those candidates, I like one thing more - winning. You can demand a right-right candidate all you want to make you feel like we are making progress. Problem is, they won't win. As I've said many times, the middle elects the president, and they like moderate candidates. Even if the pres is too moderate for you, if he is a Republican, he will work with your congress. If he's a Dem, he won't. Why is that so hard to grasp for Tea Party types? Example - how'd that right-right thing work out for ya in Nevada and Delaware? :cheers:
 

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If the GOP runs anyone besides Ron Paul or Chris Christie, it won't matter because it will be business as usual. We would have been scammed one more time.. by letting the elite and the media decide who our choices are, and they will both be owned same as the last 5.
:agree:
 
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