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Great article by a retired chicago police officer.
http://excelle.monster.com/news/articles/4938-in-defense-of-armed-citizens
http://excelle.monster.com/news/articles/4938-in-defense-of-armed-citizens
A must read for anyone with an opinion on the posession of firearms
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I live in Mississippi and work in an office of about 28 people. Of the 15 men 5 have CCW permits and one is going through the process now. It is important that normal people have the ability to defend themselves when needed from people who would cause harm. I hope more police officers read this article and start a groundswell to support an armed and trained public. It is time to stop living in fear of unstable or bad people.
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Personally, I think there should be gun safety taught in school from about 5th grade on, and every home should be required to keep a firearm for home defense. An armed society, is a polite one.
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I sat for my CCL 2 weekends ago. I think it's a personal choice. If you don't like guns, don't own one, but don't infringe on other's rights to own one.
Why carry a gun? Because a cop is too heavy to carry.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Why carry a gun? Because a cop is too heavy to carry.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
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Most of the Police Officers in Texas especially the larger cities promote legal citizens to go through the necessary training to become a Concealed Carry Handgun owner. The Luby's shooting in Killeen really opened up LEO's perspective on the issue.
It's a new generation of Cops on the street now; they grew up with these current laws making it possible for citizens to legally carry concealed handguns.
Not a big deal really, for the most part these CCH citizens are pro Police and are not a threat. Just don't want to be on the receiving end or close by when one of them gets put in fear of their life, because they normally don’t have very good shot placement.:thumbsup:
It's a new generation of Cops on the street now; they grew up with these current laws making it possible for citizens to legally carry concealed handguns.
Not a big deal really, for the most part these CCH citizens are pro Police and are not a threat. Just don't want to be on the receiving end or close by when one of them gets put in fear of their life, because they normally don’t have very good shot placement.:thumbsup:
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One thing that really bothers me is when the police themselves do not know the law- especially something as importand as firearms laws....I read about it all too often how either anti-citizen carry or uneducated officers are blatently violating the civil rights of those that choose to open carry.
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my turn...
that's why gun worship/carry/ownership is forbidden in every country on the planet except...... in every shithole, terrorist, militant, drug selling, child trafficing, country in the middle east......
and then here in the US......:laughing:
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Switzerland is in that catagory?:huh::laughing:
my turn...
that's why gun worship/carry/ownership is forbidden in every country on the planet except...... in every shithole, terrorist, militant, drug selling, child trafficing, country in the middle east......
and then here in the US......:laughing:
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Australia, Brazil, Canada, Finland, Germany, Italy, New Zealand, Switzerland, are all in the middle east? You got something on your chin... again.
Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition. :thumbsup:
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Gun safety and gun laws
The importance of gun safety education has a mitigating effect on the occurrence of accidental discharges involving children. So much importance is not placed upon the vicarious liability case law assigning strict liability to the gun owner for firearms casualties occurring when a careless gun owner loses proper custody and control of a firearm.
In an argument against gun control, the National Center for Policy Analysis, a non-profit conservative think tank, reported the following statistics:[131]
* New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.
* In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.
* In 1976, Washington, D.C. enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.
In addition:
* As of 2006, approximately 35% of American households have a gun in them. About 22% of Americans actually own a gun.[132]
* Evanston, Illinois, a Chicago suburb of 75,000 residents, became the largest town to ban handgun ownership in September 1982 but experienced no decline in violent crime. It has subsequently ended its ban as a result of the District of Columbia v. Heller Supreme Court case, upon a federal lawsuit by the National Rifle Association being filed the day after Heller was entered.
* Among the 15 states with the highest homicide rates, 10 have restrictive or very restrictive gun laws.[133]
* Twenty percent of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just 6% of the population—New York, Chicago, Detroit, and Washington, D.C.—and each has or, in the cases of Detroit (until 2001) and D.C. (2008) had, a requirement for a licence on private handguns or an effective outright ban (in the case of Chicago).[134]
* In England, Wales and Scotland, the private ownership of most handguns was banned in 1997 following a gun massacre at a school in Dunblane and an earlier gun massacre in Hungerford in which the combined deaths was 35 and injured 30. Gun ownership and gun crime was already at a low level, which made these slaughters particularly concerning. Only an estimated 57,000 people —0.1% of the population owned such weapons prior to the ban.[135] In the UK, only 8 per cent of all criminal homicides are committed with a firearm of any kind.[136] In 2005/6 the number of such deaths in England and Wales (population 53.3 million) was just 50, a reduction of 36 per cent on the year before and lower than at any time since 1998/9. The lowest rate of gun crime was in 2004/4 whilst the highest was in 1994.[citation needed] There was, however, a noticeable temporary increase in gun crime in the years immediately after the ban, though this has since fallen back. The reason for the increase has not been investigated thoroughly but it is thought that 3 factors may have raised the number of guns in circulation. These are, the reduction in gun crime in Northern Ireland (which led to guns coming from there to the criminal black market in England); guns (official issue or confiscated) acquired by military personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan; and guns coming from Eastern Europe after the fall of the iron curtain.[citation needed] Firearm injuries in England and Wales also noticeably increased in this time.[137] In 2005-06, of 5,001 such injuries, 3,474 (69%) were defined as "slight," and a further 965 (19%) involved the "firearm" being used as a blunt instrument. Twenty-four percent of injuries were caused with air guns, and 32% with "imitation firearms" (including airsoft guns).[138] Since 1998, the number of fatal shootings has varied between 49 and 97, and was 50 in 2005. In Scotland the picture has been more varied with no pattern of rise or fall appearing.[citation needed]
* Violent crime accelerated in Jamaica after handguns were heavily restricted and a special Gun Court established.[139] However a high proportion of the illegal guns in Jamaica can be attributed to guns smuggled in from the United states where they are more freely available.[140]
The Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report ranking of cities over 40,000 in population by violent crime rates (per 100,000 population) finds that the ten cities with the highest violent crime rates for 2003 include three cities in the very strict state of New Jersey, one in the fairly restrictive state of Massachusetts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics
The importance of gun safety education has a mitigating effect on the occurrence of accidental discharges involving children. So much importance is not placed upon the vicarious liability case law assigning strict liability to the gun owner for firearms casualties occurring when a careless gun owner loses proper custody and control of a firearm.
In an argument against gun control, the National Center for Policy Analysis, a non-profit conservative think tank, reported the following statistics:[131]
* New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.
* In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.
* In 1976, Washington, D.C. enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.
In addition:
* As of 2006, approximately 35% of American households have a gun in them. About 22% of Americans actually own a gun.[132]
* Evanston, Illinois, a Chicago suburb of 75,000 residents, became the largest town to ban handgun ownership in September 1982 but experienced no decline in violent crime. It has subsequently ended its ban as a result of the District of Columbia v. Heller Supreme Court case, upon a federal lawsuit by the National Rifle Association being filed the day after Heller was entered.
* Among the 15 states with the highest homicide rates, 10 have restrictive or very restrictive gun laws.[133]
* Twenty percent of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just 6% of the population—New York, Chicago, Detroit, and Washington, D.C.—and each has or, in the cases of Detroit (until 2001) and D.C. (2008) had, a requirement for a licence on private handguns or an effective outright ban (in the case of Chicago).[134]
* In England, Wales and Scotland, the private ownership of most handguns was banned in 1997 following a gun massacre at a school in Dunblane and an earlier gun massacre in Hungerford in which the combined deaths was 35 and injured 30. Gun ownership and gun crime was already at a low level, which made these slaughters particularly concerning. Only an estimated 57,000 people —0.1% of the population owned such weapons prior to the ban.[135] In the UK, only 8 per cent of all criminal homicides are committed with a firearm of any kind.[136] In 2005/6 the number of such deaths in England and Wales (population 53.3 million) was just 50, a reduction of 36 per cent on the year before and lower than at any time since 1998/9. The lowest rate of gun crime was in 2004/4 whilst the highest was in 1994.[citation needed] There was, however, a noticeable temporary increase in gun crime in the years immediately after the ban, though this has since fallen back. The reason for the increase has not been investigated thoroughly but it is thought that 3 factors may have raised the number of guns in circulation. These are, the reduction in gun crime in Northern Ireland (which led to guns coming from there to the criminal black market in England); guns (official issue or confiscated) acquired by military personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan; and guns coming from Eastern Europe after the fall of the iron curtain.[citation needed] Firearm injuries in England and Wales also noticeably increased in this time.[137] In 2005-06, of 5,001 such injuries, 3,474 (69%) were defined as "slight," and a further 965 (19%) involved the "firearm" being used as a blunt instrument. Twenty-four percent of injuries were caused with air guns, and 32% with "imitation firearms" (including airsoft guns).[138] Since 1998, the number of fatal shootings has varied between 49 and 97, and was 50 in 2005. In Scotland the picture has been more varied with no pattern of rise or fall appearing.[citation needed]
* Violent crime accelerated in Jamaica after handguns were heavily restricted and a special Gun Court established.[139] However a high proportion of the illegal guns in Jamaica can be attributed to guns smuggled in from the United states where they are more freely available.[140]
The Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report ranking of cities over 40,000 in population by violent crime rates (per 100,000 population) finds that the ten cities with the highest violent crime rates for 2003 include three cities in the very strict state of New Jersey, one in the fairly restrictive state of Massachusetts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics
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Good article, thanks for the post.
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and we say only Islam is spread with the sword.....:laughing:
Sweet avatar by the way.....:thumbsup:
Back to those countries now.....
mmmmmmm open carry.....
What countries?
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All religions that are spread, are spread by the sword..
TY, I kinda liked it.
Only the good 'ol US of A. That's why we are the ones all the other call on when they are in the ****..Back to those countries now.....
mmmmmmm open carry.....
What countries?
Worship??? There you go bringing emotion into a logic based debate again. Too many soaps during the day......?:laughing:
my turn...
that's why gun worship:
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