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I took my newly-acquired 84 to the high pressure carwash, thinking that the weatherseals were pretty good. I got a good splash in the face as the nozzles passed the upper corner of the window glass. Good thing I'd brought along a towel to wipe down the outside of the car - didn't know I'd also be wiping down the inside, along with my face!
 

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It's been known to happen



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I agree, I always hand wash mine. Also I use microfiber cloths in between to keep the dust off.
 

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What's the concern about the carwash, other than possible water getting in past the weatherstripping? - I'd always heard that you're more likely to scratch the paint hand washing, since you can't possible use as much water as a commercial carwash.
 

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Its stilll hard on the surface. You've got a beautiful "museum" style car and some would treat it with kit gloves forever. However, it is your car and you can do with it as you please. :thumbsup:

That being said, if the primary use for your cherry 84 is a weekend "toy" and weekend car, check out Junkman and his Adam's polishes threads. THAT's the way to maintain paint.

If you're going to use is as a daily driver, then a little abuse by a touchless car wash is going to be the least of the issues.

Remember...it is YOUR car...do with it as you please...the only time you'll hear people here get bent outta shape is if you were "abusing" a '53.
 

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Touchless car washes are great, it's the high pressure jets that have a way of getting in between the weatherstrip and waking you up. I'm not ready to change all the strips yet so that's why I stay away from the wash. We have a great drive it yourself thru and vacuum yourself wash here and I love it for all my other cars...

The old man always said if you want to test weatherstrip use a dollar bill between the seal, if it slides out easy then it's possiblly a suspect!!!

I use the bomb and a microfiber cloth after a nice cruise. I also only dry all of my cars with microfiber cloths. You can get a whole bag of them from Costco or Sams for $12.00 bucks.
 

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Thanks for the advice - it's definitely a low mileage weekend-only car and I want to keep it perfect. Sounds like I should stay away from the carwash and check out proper cleaning methods!
 

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Both of my C4's did that and they were very low mile cars with great weatherstripping!:laughing:

But, even with all the quirks, they are still bad ass cars.
 

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Both of my C4's did that and they were very low mile cars with great weatherstripping!:laughing:

But, even with all the quirks, they are still bad ass cars.
I totally agree - I sometimes wonder if I got one that's in such great condition that I'm reluctant to drive it and put any miles on it. I doubt that I could sell my wife on the idea of another one as a daily driver!
 

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Touchless car washes are great, it's the high pressure jets that have a way of getting in between the weatherstrip and waking you up. I'm not ready to change all the strips yet so that's why I stay away from the wash. We have a great drive it yourself thru and vacuum yourself wash here and I love it for all my other cars...

The old man always said if you want to test weatherstrip use a dollar bill between the seal, if it slides out easy then it's possiblly a suspect!!!

I use the bomb and a microfiber cloth after a nice cruise. I also only dry all of my cars with microfiber cloths. You can get a whole bag of them from Costco or Sams for $12.00 bucks.
Actually, you have suggested some things you DON'T want to do with a car that you want to the paint flawless on. Here's the deal.

A touchless car wash doesn't completely remove all the dirt off the car. I don't care how much pressure is used, dirt that is matted to the paint must be removed by touching the paint. I explain this technique in my wash and wax series that is located in the detailing section. Since touchless car washes cannot remove all the dirt, the second you go to dry the car off, you end up grinding that remaining film into the clear coat which is what produces all the swirls in the paint. Thus, even though nothing touches the car and causes damage during the wash process, it is the drying technique that creates the problem.

Some touchless car washes use touchless drying. That's great an all but since the car is still dirty, you really haven't accomplished anything and the second you brush up against the car, you are grinding that remaining dirt into the clear again. The best way to wash a car that you honestly care about is the 2-bucket wash method.

The Costco microfiber towels that you mentioned are the second worst mistake that you can do to your car's paint. If they are the only MF towels that you have ever used, you are in for quite a surprise if you ever get your hand on some real quality microfiber towels. The best, affordable microfiber comes from Korea. These towels are night and day from those "made in China" towels that you are using now. For less than $14, you can order two from Adam's and see for yourself. Use the forum discount code "DC" or my personal code "Junkman" in order to receive a 10% discount on your order. The towels that you are using now are the ones I use to check my oil. They are brutal to your paint.

Paint care has really evolved from when we were kids. Proper paint maintenance will make your car stand out regardless of its age. Here's mine, with over 111,000 miles on it at 9 years old.

 

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Thanks for all the good information - I guess I've been duped by Googling "car wash" and getting the hype from the equipment manufacturers! By the way, would a decent liquid wax, like Turtle Wax, be a satisfactory protection?
 

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My name is Texdentist, and I am a washaholic. My car is a daily driver and I wash it once or twice a week. I break almost every Junkman rule (Please, God, don't let Junkman read this), but I AM careful. I often use a hand spray pressure washer and I always dry with old terry cloth towels - even though I have a pile of microfibre towels. I don't think it's possible to prevent the eventual formation of microscopic swirls, you just have to be ready to use the Junkman way to eliminate them. Hand washing and drying HAS to trap some dirt particles between any cloth and the paint that will scratch minutely as you wipe. I say all of this as 1) much needed confession and 2) support of XQIZT in saying, it's your car. Do what you think is best. :thumbsup:

As for wax - Adam's has a fantastic line of hand and machine waxes and their customer service is awesome. (Junkman - can I consider this one Hail Mary?:laughing: )
 

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Check out the post right above your last post. In there is a link to the information you want. I didn't think much about it until I actually bought my 99. Then I was like, omg, I can't put that in a car wash! So I learned how to do it right. From drying in one direction, using the right kind of towel, proper prep, etc. It's really almost an artform. But the results are stunning. IMHO these are beautiful cars, I don't care what generation you drive. I personally think they should be cared for in a special way, but that's just me.

Congrats on your new toy. Hope you have many years of fun and pleasure with it! :thumbsup:
 

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Thanks for all the good information - I guess I've been duped by Googling "car wash" and getting the hype from the equipment manufacturers! By the way, would a decent liquid wax, like Turtle Wax, be a satisfactory protection?
Okay, we've got you off the car wash drug, now we need to get you out of the over the counter junk isle.

There are quite a few professional lines of product out there. There is NO such thing as the best, however, there is a such thing as the best for you and your situation. Anything that you find over the counter at Auto Zone, Pep Boys and the like are NOT in this category. You can look at the results that I have obtained using a professional product in my videos. You are not going to get those results using junk like Turtle Wax. If you truly want to make your paint pop, it is a commitment, not a 30-minute job on the weekend.

One misconception that you have is that wax makes your paint shine. That is totally incorrect. Polish is what makes your paint shine, wax just protects the finish. If you smear some cheap wax on a car that is in pitiful shape, it will look slightly better but that is equivalent to putting lipstick on an inflatable doll. Guys with real women are going to look at you like you're nuts.

Take the time to watch my videos. Again, it's not so much about what I use, it's more about the process I use to achieve what you'll see. If you happen to use what I use, then you can use my videos as a step by step template. Again, you can get the same results with other products, but you will not find any videos that break those products down like I do. I know from all the searches I did looking for them. That's why I made my own.

Here's a link to a forum that contains all my detailing write-ups. Check them out. You have some reading and video watching to do if you are serious about your paint's finish.

There is no shortcut and if you are looking for one, ignore my post. I take paint care serious and if you want to do the same, you'll see how in my videos. :thumbsup:

Now pardon me while I go down to Texas and beat on a certain Doc I know... :spanked:
 

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Now pardon me while I go down to Texas and beat on a certain Doc I know... :spanked:
Oh, ****. I was reading your post and thinking I got off scott free. I promise to spend at least two hours with the clay bar this weekend as punishment. :laughing:
 

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Oh, ****. I was reading your post and thinking I got off scott free. I promise to spend at least two hours with the clay bar this weekend as punishment. :laughing:
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Darrylg....Junkman is right....he's a lil zealous....but he's right (I'll add that he also has me hooked on the Adam's line...it is the first time in over 7 years of ownership that I have been satisfied with my detailing work)...but again, it all depends on what you want out of the car. There are plenty of C4's that have never seen a good wash or a clay bar. There are others that just get a standard ol' wash. Then there are the cars that make you drool. THOSE cars are cared for in a whole nuther way.

Again...it all depends on what you want out of it and how much effort you want to put in it. Let us know and we'll guide you through it all. :thumbsup:
 

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...Again...it all depends on what you want out of it and how much effort you want to put in it. Let us know and we'll guide you through it all. :thumbsup:
I guess I should sit down when I have an hour & a half and watch Junkman's videos - till then I'll use the feather duster on it! I want to keep it perfect - I had it appraised yesterday for insurance and it said "...This car is among the very nicest '84 Corvettes that survive today..." I want to keep it that way!

If there's a short story on Junkman's videos, I'd appreciate it.
 
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