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An Indiana baby needs life-saving surgery, but the state health care agency -- whose budget was slashed this year -- won't pay for it.

Six-month-old Seth Petreikis suffers from complete DiGeorge syndrome, which keeps him from developing a thymus, an infection-fighting glandular organ. He needs a transplant that's been pioneered by a specialist at Duke University in North Carolina. But the procedure costs $500,000, and the state's Family Social Services Administration won't pay for it under the state's Medicaid, reports the Northwest Indiana Times. It claims that the treatment is "experimental" -- even though 58 of 60 children to receive it have survived.

We last wrote about Indiana's FSSA after some of its staffers told parents to drop off their developmentally disabled children at homeless shelters. The parents had failed to receive schedule Medicare waivers to pay for care, after Gov. Mitch Daniels -- who is now weighing a possible 2012 GOP presidential run -- cut the agency's funding to deal with a budget shortfall.


As we've reported, Arizona, suffering from its own budget crunch, has cut funding for certain medical transplants for people with diseases such as leukemia and hepatitis B.

Seth's parents have set up a fund for those who want to contribute to the cost of his treatment."
 

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An early casualty of Obama's death panels...
I guess he doesn't fit in the 'whole life curve'.
 

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Is it the job of the state to care for any extraordinary medical expense incurred by the citizens of that state?

I feel bad for the family - and if I knew more about this situation, then I might even contribute money to it. Of course, I believe that private charity should be the source of the vast majority of these kinds of extraordinary medical expenses.

If the state had never gotten into the business of trying to solve everyone's problems (medical or otherwise), we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Let's suppose that budget cuts hadn't made it necessary to turn down this family - what if the cost had been $1,000,000? The clear implication is that without these heartless budget cuts, the state would have gladly stepped up to their 'commitment' of $500 large.

But even without budget cuts, there would still have been a limit. Once the state hits their limit, then what? Just run around with a sheriff, a gun, and a bag to put the money in, and collect from random people until the bill could be paid?

The fact that we're having this discussion demonstrate the moral bankruptcy of these kinds of programs. They are started by well intentioned idiots who have no concept that helping Johnny buy some bandaids is going to eventually turn into denying a life saving procedure for some baby.

Sad for the family - and sad for all of us.

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The parents had failed to receive schedule Medicare waivers to pay for care, after Gov. Mitch Daniels -- who is now weighing a possible 2012 GOP presidential run -- cut the agency's funding to deal with a budget shortfall.
That is only reason we are hearing about it. Pick any city USA... to find this story and worse... sad as it is.
 

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Is it the job of the state to care for any extraordinary medical expense incurred by the citizens of that state?

I feel bad for the family - and if I knew more about this situation, then I might even contribute money to it. Of course, I believe that private charity should be the source of the vast majority of these kinds of extraordinary medical expenses.

If the state had never gotten into the business of trying to solve everyone's problems (medical or otherwise), we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Let's suppose that budget cuts hadn't made it necessary to turn down this family - what if the cost had been $1,000,000? The clear implication is that without these heartless budget cuts, the state would have gladly stepped up to their 'commitment' of $500 large.

But even without budget cuts, there would still have been a limit. Once the state hits their limit, then what? Just run around with a sheriff, a gun, and a bag to put the money in, and collect from random people until the bill could be paid?

The fact that we're having this discussion demonstrate the moral bankruptcy of these kinds of programs. They are started by well intentioned idiots who have no concept that helping Johnny buy some bandaids is going to eventually turn into denying a life saving procedure for some baby.

Sad for the family - and sad for all of us.

Steven
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Holy Crap! YOU agree with ME?!

I quit drinking after college - but this may be enough to make me start again!

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I see Dune received a new title today.

Not sure if it's funny or just mean. :laughing:

Got to love the comradery around here. :thumbsup:
 
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