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for slotted rotors. I would like to get quicker stopping power for my manual brakes. Calipers are all new, new brake lines to calipers. MC is original...pedal is fine and car stops fine.

I have hawk pads on now..just wondering if I could do better.
 

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You have hit on the basic problem with C3 brakes. There are no good compounds for C3 brakes. I don't know of any manufacturer that makes C3 ceramics (for instance).

One of the problems is surface area of the C3 pad. Most modern friction materials are made for a much higher unit area pressure (smaller pad). Even if they were to make a C3 pad with modern friction materials, it would not work as well.
 

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Performance friction make a reasonable pad for c3's I'd guess the tradeoff is rotor life (carbon metallic vs organic)

I only put 1000 miles on them before I sold them but they worked fine...

I'm running Wilwoods SL4's and polymatrix E's on the with dynalites and ploymatrix Q's on the rear and the brakes are outstanding!!!

:cheers:
 

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Performance friction make a reasonable pad for c3's I'd guess the tradeoff is rotor life (carbon metallic vs organic)

I only put 1000 miles on them before I sold them but they worked fine...

I'm running Wilwoods SL4's and polymatrix E's on the with dynalites and ploymatrix Q's on the rear and the brakes are outstanding!!!

:cheers:

I am using Hawk pads now...any comparison to the Perf. friction? Hawk pads are Ferro-Carbon.
 

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I ran Performance Friction pads on my '69 for the last few years. I was very pleased with the braking performance (did LOTS of track days). I could see that the rotors were going to wear out quite a bit quicker, but I didn't think it was excessive.
I'm installing Wilwoods at the moment, but I'm still interested (out of curiosity) on how the Hawk pads compare to the PF pads.
 

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Hawks here with no complaints at all.
 

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Well, I guess my brakes are better than I thought....didn't hit the damn deer. They work great when you really want to stop:thud:
 

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Carbon metallic here with great results. You guys are right...NO ceramic for C-3. Even if there was...they will eat original type rotors quickly. An upgraded rotor is necessary.
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I ran performance friction metal pads for a while and found they needed heat for a really great stop but after a few hard stops they improved BUT they were eating my rotors.
I pulled them and went back to wagner organic pads. No more eating of the rotors and that first panic stop will match anyone else's pads.
They do fade with repeated hard use but on the street where you are not abusing the brakes they work great.
I do NOT believe is manual brakes, ran them for 10 years and hated them all that time.
I eventually went to the hydroboost and ever since then feel my brakes are fantastic and am no longer embarrassed when someone test drives the car.
 

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I found a set of Carbon fiber pads. Don't remember the manufacturer. Was looking for options and found these. Don't know how they work yet or how bad they will tear up rotors. Guess I will be the tester for these.
 

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I found a set of Carbon fiber pads. Don't remember the manufacturer. Was looking for options and found these. Don't know how they work yet or how bad they will tear up rotors. Guess I will be the tester for these.
Was looking at the local Advance Auto and they sell a Bendix Ceramic CQ/Organic. I wonder if the ceramic makes them better.
 
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