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Ok, so cows milk is bad, arsenic is good, fascism is king.

(NaturalNews) After years of sweeping the issue under the rug and hoping no one would notice, the FDA has now finally admitted that chicken meat sold in the USA contains arsenic, a cancer-causing toxic chemical that's fatal in high doses. But the real story is where this arsenic comes from: It's added to the chicken feed on purpose!

Even worse, the FDA says its own research shows that the arsenic added to the chicken feed ends up in the chicken meat where it is consumed by humans. So for the last sixty years, American consumers who eat conventional chicken have been swallowing arsenic, a known cancer-causing chemical. (http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/loc...)

Until this new study, both the poultry industry and the FDA denied that arsenic fed to chickens ended up in their meat. The fairytale excuse story we've all been fed for sixty years is that "the arsenic is excreted in the chicken feces." There's no scientific basis for making such a claim... it's just what the poultry industry wanted everybody to believe.

But now the evidence is so undeniable that the manufacturer of the chicken feed product known as Roxarsone has decided to pull the product off the shelves (http://www.grist.org/food-safety/20...). And what's the name of this manufacturer that has been putting arsenic in the chicken feed for all these years? Pfizer, of course -- the very same company that makes vaccines containing chemical adjuvants that are injected into children.

Technically, the company making the Roxarsone chicken feed is a subsidiary of Pfizer, called Alpharma LLC. Even though Alpharma now has agreed to pull this toxic feed chemical off the shelves in the United States, it says it won't necessarily remove it from feed products in other countries unless it is forced by regulators to do so. As reported by AP:

"Scott Brown of Pfizer Animal Health's Veterinary Medicine Research and Development division said the company also sells the ingredient in about a dozen other countries. He said Pfizer is reaching out to regulatory authorities in those countries and will decide whether to sell it on an individual basis." (http://www.usatoday.com/money/indus...)

Arsenic? Eat more!

But even as its arsenic-containing product is pulled off the shelves, the FDA continues its campaign of denial, claiming arsenic in chickens is at such a low level that it's still safe to eat. This is even as the FDA says arsenic is a carcinogen, meaning it increases the risk of cancer.

The National Chicken Council agrees with the FDA. In a statement issued in response to the news that Roxarsone would be pulled from feed store shelves, it stated, "Chicken is safe to eat" even while admitting arsenic was used in many flocks grown and sold as chicken meat in the United States.

What's astonishing about all this is that the FDA tells consumers it's safe to eat cancer-causing arsenic but it's dangerous to drink elderberry juice! The FDA recently conducted an armed raid in an elderberry juice manufacturer, accusing it of the "crime" of selling "unapproved drugs." (http://www.naturalnews.com/032631_e...) Which drugs would those be? The elderberry juice, explains the FDA. You see, the elderberry juice magically becomes a "drug" if you tell people how it can help support good health.

The FDA has also gone after dozens of other companies for selling natural herbal products or nutritional products that enhance and support health. Plus, it's waging a war on raw milk which it says is dangerous. So now in America, we have a food and drug regulatory agency that says it's okay to eat arsenic, but dangerous to drink elderberry juice or raw milk.

Eat more poison, in other words, but don't consume any healing foods. That's the FDA, killing off Americans one meal at a time while protecting the profits of the very companies that are poisoning us with their deadly ingredients.

Oh, by the way, here's another sweet little disturbing fact you probably didn't know about hamburgers and conventional beef: Chicken litter containing arsenic is fed to cows in factory beef operations. So the arsenic that's pooped out by the chickens gets consumed and concentrated in the tissues of cows, which is then ground into hamburger to be consumed by the clueless masses who don't even know they're eating second-hand chicken sh*t.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/032659_arsenic_chicken.html#ixzz1OvCbpTYY
 

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Ya know, these bastards are not going to stop until someone levels an HQ or drags a CEO into the street and shoots him.

Regulation has failed.
 

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Ya know, these bastards are not going to stop until someone levels an HQ or drags a CEO into the street and shoots him.

Regulation has failed.
There's hope for this one.
 

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Ya know, these bastards are not going to stop until someone levels an HQ or drags a CEO into the street and shoots him.

Regulation has failed.
The FDA allows 500 parts per billion of arsenic in chicken. Notice that the OP's reference doesn't talk about how much arsenic can be found in chicken - probably because it's all below that limit.

The article also fails to mention that arsenic is part of the environmental background.

This is also OLD NEWS. Tyson Foods stopped using feed with arsenic in it way back in 2004. McDonald's also started requiring suppliers to use arsenic free feed around the same time (2004 - 2006).

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The FDA allows 500 parts per billion of arsenic in chicken. Notice that the OP's reference doesn't talk about how much arsenic can be found in chicken - probably because it's all below that limit.

The article also fails to mention that arsenic is part of the environmental background.

This is also OLD NEWS. Tyson Foods stopped using feed with arsenic in it way back in 2004. McDonald's also started requiring suppliers to use arsenic free feed around the same time (2004 - 2006).

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It's not so much about the arsenic issue for me, I thought it was widely known. But for the better part of the last century, they lied in the name of phony capitalism (fascism). Now they want to put people in jail for home chickens, cows milk, and breast milk.

For me, it's just another "don't trust anything the gov tells you".. :laughing:
 

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Food, Inc.

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Food, Inc.

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Sorry - I can't support junk science. As soon as I saw that they are opposed to irradiation, I knew they weren't serious about food safety. Just another 'small is beautiful' & 'eat organic' group.

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Sorry - I can't support junk science. As soon as I saw that they are opposed to irradiation, I knew they weren't serious about food safety. Just another 'small is beautiful' & 'eat organic' group.

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I didn't say I agreed with the what the documentary was trying to convey. ;)

It didn't change the way I buy food. I was just trying to point out that the abuse of medical science doesn't get us anywhere.

You know when you grill your meat? The grill marks are composed of heterocyclic amines, a known carcinogen. That doesn't mean we should stop grilling our food. The whole arsenic-found-in-chicken is just hysteria/propaganda.

At the same time--you must regulate the quantity of arsenic in food, because it does cause damage. Just Google "Bangladesh arsenic drinking water."
 

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I didn't say I agreed with the what the documentary was trying to convey. ;)

It didn't change the way I buy food. I was just trying to point out that the abuse of medical science doesn't get us anywhere.

You know when you grill your meat? The grill marks are composed of heterocyclic amines, a known carcinogen. That doesn't mean we should stop grilling our food. The whole arsenic-found-in-chicken is just hysteria/propaganda.

At the same time--you must regulate the quantity of arsenic in food, because it does cause damage. Just Google "Bangladesh arsenic drinking water."
When you post "Food Inc." with a link to a propaganda site, I don't really know how I could logically conclude that you were trying to point out that the abuse of medical science doesn't get us anywhere, or that you didn't agree with the premise or conclusions of the site.

That said, I was only commenting on the site itself - there are lots of propaganda sites, and you found one.

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Good Lord .. you can't eat, drink, smoke, or hardly do anything else ... Too bad I couldn't blame my cancer on chicken, beef, or smoking. One good thing, I have Christine, my Vette. :D
 

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Wow, Chicken has arsenic in it, well duh, they usually drink well water...;)
 

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:laughing: The point isn't the damned arsenic in the chicken, it's the lying ass FDA.. they don't mind lying for decades to help feed producers, but they do mind people drinking cows milk?

Fascism is king..
 

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:laughing: The point isn't the damned arsenic in the chicken, it's the lying ass FDA.. they don't mind lying for decades to help feed producers, but they do mind people drinking cows milk?

Fascism is king..
While I completely agree with you with respect to the overbearing way that FDA has reacted to raw milk and other events of a similar nature, I'm not certain that the source you're posting provides proof that the FDA has a history of deceit regarding arsenic in chicken meat.

I ran down this document from 2000, and I also found an earlier document from the early '80's that openly discussed arsenic in chickens and chicken meat.

FDA said:
Data establishing the safety of monensin and roxarsone have been established by NADAs 38-878 and 7-891, respectively. A tolerance for marker residues of monensin in chickens is not needed. Tolerances for residues of arsenic from roxarsone in chickens are established at 0.5 ppm in uncooked muscle tissue, 2 ppm in uncooked edible by-products and 0.5 ppm in eggs (21 CFR 556.60).
That would certainly seem to indicate that FDA didn't say that chicken meat didn't contain arsenic.

There are lots of sources that are running this story - but most of them seem to be pure repeats of what you posted.

Don't construe this as some naive acceptance of the FDA - it isn't. However, my objection to FDA is more philosophical rather than a belief that they are cooperating with and promoting the interest of producers over consumers.

Steven

Source: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Animal...lDrugProducts/FOIADrugSummaries/ucm117180.pdf
 
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