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Sorry, T. You've got your numbers wrong. According to this census chart, the median income of all households in the U.S was $50,303 in 2008. Only 24.7% make under $25k. Roughly 70% make between $25k and $250k. There is no way the median for the bottom 95% is $17k. You can't calculate it from this chart, but based on the numbers in it, the median for the bottom 95% has to be around $40k. Notice that the last group is "over $100k". You have to get up to the $200k range to hit the top 5%, so many in that last group still fall in the bottom 95%. Also, notice in the last chart - median in constant dollars, that the median income is up over $6000 since 1980. So much for the falsehood that incomes have slid in constant dollars over the years.
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/tables/11s0689.pdf

I meant single income household, which is where single parents tend to fall, no?
 

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So we should have to make up the difference ?
Again...

this is not about your taxes getting increased.

It's about the govt, shrinking govt and reducing spending. Not reducing a service, or product, not increasing the cost of operation.
 

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DEMOCRAT'S MESSAGE:

Keep handing out other people's money to keep our constituents poor and dependent on us, as that's the only way we can get our sorry asses re-elected.

P.S. - We need to be more careful about that whole "tax cuts for the rich" thing. If these poor dupes who continually vote for us (thinking we actually give a damn about them) ever look at Congress and see that the vast majority of "rich" politicians are Democrats, they'll be on to our scam.

But hey, even if that happens, we'll be fine. We'll just do what liberals have always done:

Lie.
 

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DEMOCRAT'S MESSAGE:

Keep handing out other people's money to keep our constituents poor and dependent on us, as that's the only way we can get our sorry asses re-elected.

P.S. - We need to be more careful about that whole "tax cuts for the rich" thing. If these poor dupes who continually vote for us (thinking we actually give a damn about them) ever look at Congress and see that the vast majority of "rich" politicians are Democrats, they'll be on to our scam.

But hey, even if that happens, we'll be fine. We'll just do what liberals have always done:

Lie.
Clearly you have no concept of history. Reagan's tax rates for the rich were a LOT higher than they are currently paying. Maybe we should go back to the Almighty's tax rates for the rich.

What say you?
 

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Again...

this is not about your taxes getting increased.

It's about the govt, shrinking govt and reducing spending. Not reducing a service, or product, not increasing the cost of operation.
Again ? There was no first time.

The very essence of shrinking government... is shrinking tax funded services and entitlements, as the government creates nothing but a re-distributorship.
 

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:rolling:

where did I say that the single mom was unemployed?
:rolling::rolling::rolling:

Your waaay split up with your topics, and need to refine.
Your just throwing things out there.
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Nice demo of dodgeball. You know Ben Stiller?
 

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The very essence of shrinking government... is shrinking tax funded services and entitlements, as the government creates nothing but a re-distributorship.
No way.
shrinking funded services, is removing a product feature you paid for, or a raise in your tax payments to attempt to recieve the same product.

There is no reduction in govt waste in any way shape or form.
The bruden of the debt, imposed upon us by the banks and corps..."the wealthy" is increased, and shifted.
A transfer of wealth......since we paid out to the banks who we bailed out, who game the govt, the free market and the economy, the corps who game the tax loopholes, and
subsidies, all at our expense.
 

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No way.
shrinking funded services, is removing a product feature you paid for, or a raise in your tax payments to attempt to recieve the same product.

Theres is no reduction in govt waste in any way shape or form.
The bruden of the debt, imposed upon us by the banks and corps..."the wealthy" is increased, and shifted.
A transfer of wealth......since we paid out to the banks who we bailed out, who game the govt, the free market and the economy, the corps who game the tax loopholes, and
subsidies, all at our expense.
There the problem with your ideology. You feel you have paid into it... and now you are owed. What you have paid in is a very small amount in comparison to what you have pulled out. It matters not to you... or the millions of others kicking back in their 19th month of collecting unemployment and every other benefit you greedily snatch up for yourself. Then! you have the chutzpah to point at banks and Corps and say "look at those greedy mother/fers"

Stop blaming the banks for everyone's mismanagement of their own funds. They offered the cash... and we all took it. How dare they make money off of us. How dare they...

Not one of the millions of entitlements and services can exist without tax dollars. Every time there's a new one... more tax dollars are needed to pay for it. This is because the government uses today's tax dollars to pay for yesterdays debt. Unless we cut these services with a "cleaver"... we will not survive as a nation.
 

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What you have paid in is a very small amount in comparison to what you have pulled out. .
Boy are you dreaming....:laughing:


Back on topic...

again....




where's the govt reduction and trimmed waste?
:huh:
 

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There the problem with your ideology. You feel you have paid into it... and now you are owed. What you have paid in is a very small amount in comparison to what you have pulled out. It matters not to you... or the millions of others kicking back in their 19th month of collecting unemployment and every other benefit you greedily snatch up for yourself. Then! you have the chutzpah to point at banks and Corps and say "look at those greedy mother/fers"

Stop blaming the banks for everyone's mismanagement of their own funds. They offered the cash... and we all took it. How dare they make money off of us. How dare they...

Not one of the millions of entitlements and services can exist without tax dollars. Every time there's a new one... more tax dollars are needed to pay for it. This is because the government uses today's tax dollars to pay for yesterdays debt. Unless we cut these services with a "cleaver"... we will not survive.
The banks caused the crash that caused the long term unemployment. Say what you will about lawmakers, the bankers were not forced to do any of it. They got greedy. they ****ed up. They started to bring the world economy down. We paid to bail them out. We are now being told we need to pay more but those ****ers who stayed rich and kept THEIR jobs shouldn't have to?

Bull f-ing ****. Every one of those bastards should have had every asset seized before we paid their company a penny.
 

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where's the govt reduction and trimmed waste?
:huh:
Waste is generally a consistent percent of total budget. So these guys think they can slash the budget and claim that percent as reduced waste. Hence Obama rightly claiming that they think we are all stupid.
 

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The banks caused the crash that caused the long term unemployment. Say what you will about lawmakers, the bankers were not forced to do any of it. They got greedy. they ****ed up. They started to bring the world economy down. We paid to bail them out. We are now being told we need to pay more but those ****ers who stayed rich and kept THEIR jobs shouldn't have to?

Bull f-ing ****. Every one of those bastards should have had every asset seized before we paid their company a penny.
No... that's incorrect. Few banks played a part in the crash. Few executives played a part in the crash. That is to say, very, very few pulled the strings and manipulated the market. They dangled the carrot and we gobbled it up... happily.

The long term unemployment is a direct result of policy... and government entitlements.
 

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That is not in the context of his claim.
That is not the only context in which the Pubs think we're stupid enough to believe their scams and elitist bullshit.
 

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then you have the chutzpah to point at banks and Corps and say "look at those greedy mother/fers"
The wealthy and banks have been gaming the sooo called......free market and economy for ages.

More so since the the 90s bull market tossed our regulations to the wind, and even more so when the revised taxes pulled revolving money from the spending cycle and into paper savings and trading like what we see today in energy futures.

Funny part is,............... you actually believed it and understood it,.............posted threads about it....

untill your hate for the left clouded your vision of a problem that is not caused by our govt, but those who control it.
 

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No... that's incorrect. Few banks played a part in the crash. Few executives played a part in the crash. .
weird...

According to your claims....FM/FM caused the recession....:laughing:


Banks? :laughing:
 

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No... that a revision from my statements. Fannie and Freddi were the catalyst.

You guys seem to forget who it was informing you of this **** for the last two years. From day one you guys were arguing with me... only to come to the realization I was correct all the time. Now... you attempt to confront me with my own points that you still do not have a full grasp of.

Put away the politics and just listen to me... for once.
 

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Put away the politics and just listen to me... for once.
Not until you stop blaming it all on Democrats when there is obvious blame and involvement by Pubs, then I might consider it. But to date, all I hear from you is what the Dems did to screw it up.

So....

:huh:
 
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