on our streetbikes when you do the HID conversion kit you need to change the fuse from 5 or 10 amp to 20 so that the inital power draw/surge when you start the bike doesnt blow it out

however they also sell wiring relay kits ...

links:

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/HID-Kit-Wiring-Harness

 

use the relay !

 

You gotta go with a 20 amp fuses!

 

I think that upping the fuse amperage is a poor way of correcting the issue

 

thanks guys, that's the info I needed

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

Thats what JWMotoring recommends!

 

I can understand that
but
it's a bandaid fix

 

I'm liking the relay idea, will I need one or two?

My guess would be two since the lamps are each powered from a different part of the harness.

 

I understand that
I just know if something else goes wrong, burnt wires could result.
Seen it too many times......

I guess some only follow the manual when it suits them:rolling:


I know I do:surprised

 

I looked high and low in the manual and I am at a loss as to where it talks about how to install HID's. Could you give me a page number? :huh:

For those of us who know more about this than you do, the INSTRUCTIONS clearly state on every C5 HID kit that I have seen, that you have to increase the fuse when doing this install. This is also true on a mass of other cars. But then, what do you know? NASCAR's don't have working headlights.

 

You have got to be kidding ....
Look where it talks about fuses
I'm pretty sure it says not to replace with a higher amp rating or something to that effect...
My manual is at the shop and I'm at home but I'm pretty darn sure that is in there

I'm no HID expert and I don't doubt that this will work
I just don't think it's the best way.

I see that you want to go down this road again.....

Are you going to berate me or call me names this time and then delete the thread again ? ?:thud:

 

... I'm no HID expert and I don't doubt that this will work
I just don't think it's the best way.

Exactly. There are those of us who are well versed in the understanding of how the HID's work. This is the way to resolve this issue, short of ripping out all the wiring in the headlight circuit and rewiring the car. Allow those of us who know to assist those seeking help.

 

The easy way to resolve this discussion is to verify that all the wiring is of sufficient gauge to accomodate a transient 20A load. If the fuse protecting the circuit is rated at a lower ampacity than the circuit, then it accomplishes the goal of protecting said circuit. Wire is also sized differently according to whether it is a transient load (startup) or steady state load. You also have to verify that the voltage drop will not be so great as to diminish performance of the equipment. Just as a back-of-the-envelope guess, I'd say if it is all 16AWG, you're probably ok for the initial startup. You could probably get away with 18AWG and still be below 20% voltage drop in the wire. Besides, the steady state power consumption for the HID's is actually a little less than the halogens.

So yeah, I don't think the 20A fuse is a problem.
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The easy way to resolve this discussion is to verify that all the wiring is of sufficient gauge to accomodate a transient 20A load. If the fuse protecting the circuit is rated at a lower ampacity than the circuit, then it accomplishes the goal of protecting said circuit. Wire is also sized differently according to whether it is a transient load (startup) or steady state load. You also have to verify that the voltage drop will not be so great as to diminish performance of the equipment. Just as a back-of-the-envelope guess, I'd say if it is all 16AWG, you're probably ok for the initial startup. You could probably get away with 18AWG and still be below 20% voltage drop in the wire. Besides, the steady state power consumption for the HID's is actually a little less than the halogens.

So yeah, I don't think the 20A fuse is a problem.
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good posting:thumbsup:

 

I'm glad we can all agree on this.

:smack

 

Jeez guys, good thing that Calif. is far from Kentucky

And again, thanks for the help.

 

I've had 8 cars and 2 bikes with HID kits all with upgraded fuses and ive never burned out any wires and the kits I used ranged from high quality to cheap crap that I had a friend ship over to me from HK

 

I wasn't talking to you
sorry if you feel left out :laughing:

 

GOOD POSTING !:cheers:

 

A relay is probably the best way to do it. Will a larger fuse suffice? Sure will. GM over engineers everything and most of the time the wires can hold double the amperage with no ill effects. HID's do draw less than halogens do once running, but their startup draw is quite a bit more than halogens. RT Gordon had the best response and the only one that really matters. Conduct the test then you guys will know for sure:thumbsup:



Here is some interesting reading from someone who actually ran a few tests of his own...

http://theeshadow.com/files/volvo/hidcomp.html


:cheers:

 

A relay is probably the best way to do it. Will a larger fuse suffice? Sure will. GM over engineers everything and most of the time the wires can hold double the amperage with no ill effects. HID's do draw less than halogens do once running, but their startup draw is quite a bit more than halogens. RT Gordon had the best response and the only one that really matters. Conduct the test then you guys will know for sure:thumbsup:



Here is some interesting reading from someone who actually ran a few tests of his own...

http://theeshadow.com/files/volvo/hidcomp.html


:cheers:

more good posting :thumbsup:

 

I guess if you are not competent to work on wiring , you are right :thud:



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