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Does anybody know who carries hot rod air's products besides Summit? I went to their website, but there are no retailers listed:huh:
 

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Does anybody know who carries hot rod air's products besides Summit? I went to their website, but there are no retailers listed:huh:

I been kinda curious about what they have for sharks, in that underhood setup is a super PIA.....love to someday ditch it and the whole blower box assy/idea/layout/ and clean hell outta that engine compartment....

IF they make something that can retain stock interior appearance, OR supply a decent looking dash part that matches color ok.....

I suspect I would just need a blower box and coils.....no??

prices?? anyone??

All I see on the smut site is the entire system for 1200 bux....lotsa stuff there I can't use though, like the compressor....
 

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Don't know about Hot Rod Air, but I have heard nothing but good things about Vintage Air. Their new kit is a direct fit for the C3. Also replaces all the mechanical/vacuum controls with solid state electronics.
 

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I have installed one of these for a 69 convertible.

We bought it straight from HRA.

I have also installed the new Vintage Air Sure fit for the C3.

I'd be happy fill you in on the plus and minus of the two systems if there is any interest there.

You will really enjoy the extra space under the hood, and both re-use the stock controller for a stock look on the inside.
 

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I have installed one of these for a 69 convertible.

We bought it straight from HRA.

I have also installed the new Vintage Air Sure fit for the C3.

I'd be happy fill you in on the plus and minus of the two systems if there is any interest there.

You will really enjoy the extra space under the hood, and both re-use the stock controller for a stock look on the inside.
Speak to us man.....speak to us......

the thing that's interesting is that it IS possible to do it under the dash there, so being a junkyard maven....this fall, when summer is over here in Florida, some November...I will go junkyarding and find some likely candidates...but I gotta have a concept clear for what I looking 4.....NOW, I got nuttin'.....
 

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Ecklers sells the kit too. I just ordered mine directly from Hot Rod Air. I have a vortec engine. They are including the brackets for the vortec instead of the normal ones.
 

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Speak to us man.....speak to us......

the thing that's interesting is that it IS possible to do it under the dash there, so being a junkyard maven....this fall, when summer is over here in Florida, some November...I will go junkyarding and find some likely candidates...but I gotta have a concept clear for what I looking 4.....NOW, I got nuttin'.....
HRA = vacuum operated system VA = mini-computer - all electric servos
HRA = Plastic firewall housing VA = Steel firewall housing
HRA = all soft lines VA = Pre-bent alum and soft lines
HRA = Twin blower fan VA = Single spal fan
HRA = fair instructions VA = Good instructions
HRA = uses stock control with mods VA = stock control with mods

Both systems are really hard to fit behind the dash as there is very little room to spare in terms of running all the tubes and hoses. VA does a little better job on working out the plenum and duct work, but both leave much to be desired in the final fit department.

The VA is a more complex system that is more prone to electronic glitches - where HRA is standard relays and vacuum signals and can be tested manually.

Customer service at VA is head and shoulders - as HRA has some issues with call backs, getting messages, and handling issues quickly. VA will respond by email or phone and is great about following up.

both systems cost about the same and it is a toss up as to which one is better.
 

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Chris, what you posted is fine, but what I need to know is about the housings and the positions of the evaporator/heater cores....fit in the engine compartment, any of them just make a blower pipe with the evap /heater mounted inline with the firewall instead of stuck out there in the middle of everything?? how is the ducting inside handled?? any stock stuff used, or they use flex hose for the ducting?? any room for my engine 1227730 computer behind the stock map pocket like now, or is that all used up??

I suspect I need roll my own, nothing new, really, gotta find a suitable evap/heater core and maybe even the right concept off an existing car....

:cheers:
 

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Gene,

Both of these systems allow you to remove all the stock engine bay housing and replace it with a flat plate. Gives you TONS of room in the engine bay.

I put the HRA model in a 69 with a Edelbrock Pro-Flo and mounted the computer on the other side of the map pocket...no problem at all.

They use a combo of formed and free from duct work.

You will not re-use any of the stock stuff other than the vent terminal ends and controller.

For the cost, it would be really hard to beat with a j/y set up.

Now...I built my own in my 69 Vette BEFORE any direct fit systems were out. I used the VA Super Compact II model (all electric) and was able to flush my firewall and squeeze it all up under the dash.
 

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I have a Classic auto air system 1/2 installed in my 72 coupe. I have the core in and it works but I never installed the ac side yet. Some parts of the kit were ok but some were poorly fabricated. The tubes were bent way off and when I called about it last year they told to fab my own up pretty much. For $1,100 I don't think I'd go that route again. The stock ac box is gone and there is a lot of room in the bay but working in the dash is a PITA!!!
 

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Here are some pictures of the VA Sure fit in a ex-a/c 69 Convertible.

This is a shot inside the car of what the box looks like. It is designed to tuck right up in the dash. It is still a bit of a tight fit anyway you look at it.




This is how it comes through the firewall.



Here it is with the housing cover and hoses

 

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Chris, I give you an A for effort and clean work, but looking at that, mess and 2 weeks work, I think I will tackel that when the evaporator coils crap out....

just once glance makes my brain fart, and my back hurt....

:D :devil: :devil:
 

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Hey guys I called Hot Rod Air today, and they were very helpful. I got the compressor and brackets I needed ordered. Their prices direct were better than Summits. This is not the first time I've found much better pricing than that offered from Summit. I'm not trying to bash Summit, as I've gotten a lot of my parts from them, but I was wondering what's up with their "Beat A Price Guarantee.":huh:
 

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I was wondering what's up with their "Beat A Price Guarantee.":huh:
Guaranteed not match a price based on my experience. :crazy:
 

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I put the HRA system in the 69 roadster. It was fairly easy. I like the fact that it cleaned up the engine bay. It works great. I agree that it is a tight fit.
 

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