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As a Doors and Jim Morrison fan I am glad he got pardoned by Florida for a bogus charge.
40 years to late but it's better than nothing.
 

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As a Doors and Jim Morrison fan I am glad he got pardoned by Florida for a bogus charge.
40 years to late but it's better than nothing.
They had his wife on talking about the pardon and she stated Jim would not have been happy about this AT ALL.

Seriously, does it even matter after all these years?:WTF
 

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The lady who CNN called his wife was never officially married to jim Morrison. She is not liked by either the fans, the remaining band members and others.

She is more often considered a leach who claims to be his common law wife and always likes to give her opinion on his opnions.

He his true love and was who he wrote often about in his songs was a lady named Pamela, who was with him when he died. She died a few months later.

Anywho, his fellow band mates said it would be a nice thing for the family to remove the injustice of the ridiculous charge.
 

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They had his wife on talking about the pardon and she stated Jim would not have been happy about this AT ALL.

Seriously, does it even matter after all these years?:WTF
I wish he were here so he could wiggle his 70 year old dick at them...RIP LIZARD KING...:thumbsup:
 

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What a complete waste of time and taxpayers money. Complete.
People keep mentioning it costing Florida taxpayers a lot of money to pardon someone. Im not from Florida, but I figured it had to be minimal since it was just signing of some buerecratic paprerwork. This wasn't like a normal pardon with lawyers fighting and what not. Can't imagine it took must time either.
Just a symbolic deed to fix a wroning in the past, goverments do it all the time.

Maybe you can enlighten on if it does cost a lot of money?
 

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Doesn't matter if it cost a dime or a million dollars, can you give me one good reason it needed to be done?
 

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Doesn't matter if it cost a dime or a million dollars, can you give me one good reason it needed to be done?
The argument would be that the goverment falsely charged him with a crime to go after people in the 60s who were anti-esablishment at the time. This was an easy and, I would bet , a very cheap fix for a mis-dead the goverment had done in the past. The family will not be asking for reperations. :)

Sorry, had to edit that last post, it was incoherent beyond even my reading skills! :)
 

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But did it change anything ? -Other then when you are sitting on your couch smoking one... listening to some great music -you can say "not guilt, maaan". :laughing:
 

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I guess my question is did he expose his lizard or not? I always thought he did. If he did, why would they pardon him? That act wouldn't be too scandalous in 2011 (in some quarters), but in the 1970's South, it would not have passed muster. :huh:
 

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The argument would be that the goverment falsely charged him with a crime to go after people in the 60s who were anti-esablishment at the time. This was an easy and, I would bet , a very cheap fix for a mis-dead the goverment had done in the past. The family will not be asking for reperations. :)

Sorry, had to edit that last post, it was incoherent beyond even my reading skills! :)
Right but in the grand scheme of things does it matter?

Will anyone run out and buy his music now because he's not guilty?

Will this change anything in the course of history other than allowing Charlie Crist to get his name in the paper one more time before he leaves office?

Do you really care? I know you are a fan but would it matter to you at all if this had never come up? Really?

It's just a waste of time and money yet all governors feel the need to do it before they are booted out of office for the next guy to come in.
 

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Way to go Crist! One last act of divine wisdom from the Governor with no principles. I guess now he can say he did SOMETHING.

Thank goodness he's gone in 3 weeks.

BTW, I liked the Doors. MOstly the first album over the later stuff.

Break On Through, to the other side
Soul Kitchen
Crystal Ship
20th Century Fox
Alabam Song (Whiskey Bar)
Light My Fire

Back Door Man
I Looked At You
End Of The Night
Take It As It Comes
The End.
 

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Right but in the grand scheme of things does it matter?

Will anyone run out and buy his music now because he's not guilty?

Will this change anything in the course of history other than allowing Charlie Crist to get his name in the paper one more time before he leaves office?

Do you really care? I know you are a fan but would it matter to you at all if this had never come up? Really?

It's just a waste of time and money yet all governors feel the need to do it before they are booted out of office for the next guy to come in.

Yep, ironically it does matter to me personally. I signed the petition to have him pardoned (literally). HAH! :)

I think Jim morrison would probably laugh at this more than not like it. A funny way to get back at the state of Florida. He is probably laughing in his grave. :)
 

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So he exposed himself in public????:huh:

Who here hasn't? :laughing:

Who cares?
 

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As a Doors and Jim Morrison fan I am glad he got pardoned by Florida for a bogus charge.
40 years to late but it's better than nothing.
I was working security for that concert. Why do you say the charge was bogus?

Marshall Brevitz and the Miami Rock scene took a big hit because of that Concert.
 

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Jim Morrison's Miami Incident

The Dinner Key Auditorium was situated strategically across the parking lot from City Hall in Coconut Grove. Ken Collier, doing-business-as Thee Image Productions, had lured The Doors away from the university hall with a deal for more money. The building was a converted seaplane hanger in general disrepair, with an official seating capacity of seven thousand. The Doors were contracted for a flat twenty-five thousand dollars, based on what they understood to be an auditorium with a forty two-thousand dollar maximum. After the contract was signed, Collier took out the seats and sold several thousand more tickets, nearly doubling the maximum.

Bill Siddons, The Doors manager, was outraged when he arrived at the auditorium to take an accounting of the seating. Vince Treanor , the bands equipment manager, said the argument started right away. "When Siddons reminded the promoters that this wasn't in the contract, the promoters said, 'What are you gonna do about it?' Bill threatened to take the equipment and leave and the promoter said, 'You think you're gonna take this equipment outta here? You're gonna do this show.' Here's the band's brand-new equipment and a hall full of shouting people and the promoter is holding a gun to our heads." While Siddons and Collier were fighting over the deal, dozens of people without tickets were scaling the outside walls to climb in through the second-story windows, another thousand were jammed
against the entrances hoping to squeeze in. Temperatures were shooting upward, it was a hot night in Miami, even for March and the building had no air conditioning. People were scaling the walls to hang from the rafters, seeking desperately to make space and find relief from the heat. The hour was late and Morrison was still enroute, by this time some reports swore nearly thirteen thousand people were jammed into the hall.

When Jim finally arrived, it was obvious to everyone who knew him he was drunk, drunk beyond even Morrison standards. Jim was not a man to be reasoned with, even if his close associates hadn't been faced with thirteen thousand angry reasons why he'd better get on the stage. Morrison only needed a moment to size up the situation. While The Doors repeated the intro to Break on Through over and over, he bided his time at the side of the stage. When Jim finally crossed the stage and took the microphone, at least one tape-recorder ate up every word. You can still hear it if you want to, ask any hard-core Doors fan for an audio of the Miami concert. Just be forewarned, it wasn't Jim's finest hour.
The following is a summary of the controversial moments of the next 65 minutes:

While the introduction repeated, now painfully patient in the background , Morrison rapped incoherently into the microphone. He eventually managed to sing a couple of verses but lost interest quickly, returning to his aimless sermon. "I'm not talking about no revolution. And I'm not talking about no demonstration. I'm talking about having a good time. I'm talking about having a good time this summer. Now you all come to L.A. You all get out there. We're going to lie down there in the sand and rub our toes in the ocean and we're going to have a good time. Are you ready? Are you ready?......Are.... you.....ahhhhh!"

"Five to One" was always a controversial call to action and Jim fell into the first few lines of the song. Hesitation. As if transported through the moment to the stage of the Living Theatre, his voice twisted with anger and condemnation. "You're all a bunch of f**kin' idiots." Sounds of shock and outrage from the audience. "Let people tell you what you're gonna do. Let people push you around. How long do you think its gonna last? How long are you gonna let it go on? How long are you gonna let them push you around. Maybe you love it. Maybe you like being pushed around. Maybe you love getting your face stuck in the ****.....You're all a bunch of slaves. Bunch of slaves. Letting everybody push you around.
What are you gonna do about it? What are you gonna do about it...What are you gonna do?

On and on it went . At some point Jim staggered over to Robby and fell to his knees, focusing his attention on Robby's guitar solo (conflicting perceptions would debate his true intentions in the months ahead). Later. "THERE ARE NO RULES"........ "Anybody here from Tallahassee?" Audience affirmation..... " Well, I lived there until I got smart and went to California." At one point Jim made a direct reference to the Living Theatre. "Hey, listen. I used to think the whole thing was a big joke. I thought it was somethin' to laugh about, and the last couple of nights I met some people who were doin' somethin'. They're trying to change the world and I wanna get on the trip. I wanna change the world."

When someone jumped on stage and drenched him with champagne, Jim took his shirt off. "Let's see a little skin, let's get naked." Damp clothing fell to the concrete floor. "I'm not talking about revolution, I'm not talking about guns and riots, I'm talking about love. Love one another. Love your brother, hug him. Man, I'd like to see a little nakedness around here....grab your friend and love him. Take your clothes off and love each other." More clothing carpeted the concrete. When Jim finally got around to talking about what was really on his mind no doubt everyone was ready. "You didn't come here for music did you? You came for something more, didn't you? You didn't come to rock'n'roll, you came for something else didn't you? You came for something else --WHAT IS IT?" The audience recovered quickly from their initial shock and shouted all sorts of options. They weren't really sure what they wanted, but Morrison was. " You want to see my c*ck, don't you? That's what you came for isn't it? YEAHHHH!" There was a long, screeching crescendo from the floor. What happened next is anyone's guess, apparently, Morrison waved his shirt in front of his crotch in bullfighter tradition, he took it away for an instant and taunted. "See it? Did you see it?" The audience proceeded to "see" exactly what they wanted to see (reality has never been defined).

It was then, Jim finally gave into the shouts for Light My Fire. The edge of the prior moment was dulled and the confused mass of followers basked in the rays of their anthem. By this time dozens of people were climbing onto the rickety stage. Collier had finally had enough and made his way toward Jim's microphone to cool things down. In the struggle that followed, Jim was thrown into the audience. No to be diminished, Jim lead a snake dance through the auditorium , disappeared in the midst of the movement, only to reappear in a balcony to observe the turmoil below. As the weary concert goers filed out, The Doors retired to their dressing rooms . There was the usual group of hangers-on and several policemen came up for autographs. Siddons paid for a policeman's hat which Jim had flung into the audience earlier and there was the usual good natured joking. Miami went home and The Doors left the next morning, as planned, for a vacation in the Caribbean.

Aftermath and Charges
Media Madness: Larry Mahoney saw the makings of copy first, his article appeared on March 3, 1969 as a review of the concert in The Miami Herald. "The hypnotically erotic Morrison, flaunting the laws of obscenity, indecent exposure and incitement to riot, could only stir a minor mob scene toward the end of his Saturday night performance." The rhetoric went on to fill three columns; "It was not meant to be pretty. Morrison appeared to masturbate in full view of his audience, screamed obscenities and exposed himself. He also got violent, slugged several of Thee Image officials and threw one of them off stage before he himself was hurled into the crowd." Once the article appeared in print, the press fanned the flames by calling local politicians and demanding to know what they intended to do about the outrage. The police were turned to for an explanation of their indifference to the well-being of the community youth. A group of high school students decided to hold a Rally for Decency at the Orange Bowl. The event caught national attention, prompting a letter of appreciation from President Nixon and offers to appear on national television. The FBI played it's own clandestine part by issuing a report on "Possible racial violence major urban areas" documenting "Morrison's effort to provoke chaos among a huge crowd of young people."

On Wednesday, March 5, the city of Miami issued a warrant for the arrest of James Douglas Morrison. The complaint was signed by an office boy who had attended the show and worked for the state attorney. Officially, six warrants were sworn out by the Dade County State Attorney's Office: A felony charge of lewd and lascivious behavior and five misdemeanors; two counts of indecent exposure, two of public profanity and one of public drunkenness.
 
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