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Here’s an opportunity to relive your high-school poetry classes.

First Lady Michelle Obama has scheduled a poetry evening for Wednesday, and she’s invited several poets, including a successful Chicago poet and rapper, Lonnie Rashid Lynn, Jr., AKA “Common.” However, Lynn is quite controversial, in part because his poetry includes threats to shoot police and at least one passage calling for the “burn[ing]” of then-President George W. Bush.

Back in 2003, First Lady Laura Bush held a poetry evening, and she invited several poets to reprise the work of Emily Dickinson, Langston Hughes and Walt Whitman. Although none of those poets had urged violence against a president, Bush canceled the event after left-of-center poets protested and threatened to disrupt the event.

Here’s a sample of Dickinson’s work that could have been presented at Bush’s event:

I’m nobody! Who are you?

I’m nobody! Who are you?

Are you nobody, too?

Then there’s a pair of us — don’t tell!

They’d banish us, you know.

How dreary to be somebody!

How public, like a frog

To tell your name the livelong day

To an admiring bog!

Here’s a sample of Common’s work, transcribed from a 2007 video with 837,613 viewers on YouTube. Students, please compare and contrast the two poems. You’ll get extra credit for counting the death threats. There is no extra credit for identifying spelling errors. By the way, ‘Uzi’ is slang for a compact machine gun:

Less then half of it... but you get the idea.




Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/09/b...per-common-to-a-poetry-reading/#ixzz1LzFcDTsl
 

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I've said it before. She's one class act.

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Knuckle dragging trash.
 

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Perhaps they will hang a picture of him on the Christmas tree next to Mao's.
 

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You're going to judge Common on lyrics he wrote 4 years ago and completely ignore the rest of his work? Conservative hypocrisy at its best.
 

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I just find it funny how conservatives are the first to bible thump and then JUDGE one man on the basis of ONE poem he wrote 4 years ago. Doesn't the Bible say it is not your place to judge others? None of you know anything about this person or hip hop culture and yet he's written off as "knuckle dragging trash".

Here--let me expose the fact that all of you are a bunch of ****in hypocrites.

Kid Rock said:
Kid Rock Mother ****er yo I ain't no ***
I **** bitches dry I **** em on the rag
Tag their toes - check em off my list
Hoes get ****ed - They don't get kissed
A simplistic pimp gettin much respect
I'll **** your mouth and leave your ass in debt
Jet set the country on your world perks
Just to show you how a real pimp works
Remove your shirt - show me them titties
I'll drive my dick right through your twin cites
Around your bends over your curves and ass
Park it in your mouth till I run out of gas...

...Well I'm Kid Rock
got pussy galore
You might get a lot of pussy, I gets much more
Got scores of whores and macks knows what's up
You's a player
Nope I'm a flat out slut
Got what you came for - yes indeed
Ecstasy and a sea of weed
Got a seed to plant in your field of crap
I'll wear a cowboy hat and be your farmer Jack
You can hold my sack while I pack your bag
You can rub my back while I tack a keg
One leg on the dash and one on the floor
I'll pop a cork in your ass and make you scream for more
Pissed off, pissed of
If conservatives really wants to go down the road of criticizing musicians for select lyrics, there are plenty of other people to criticize. For instance, why has Palin praised musician Kid Rock instead of condemning him?
In her book Going Rogue, Palin expressed her gratitude for the endorsement of Kid Rock and praised him for being "very pro-America" and for having "common sense ideas. Yet she bitches and moans about the Common invitation. She also invited Ted Nugent to speak on her podcast, but yet Ted Nugent said Obama can "suck on his machine gun" while calling him a "piece of ****".
 

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I just find it funny how conservatives are the first to bible thump and then JUDGE one man on the basis of ONE poem he wrote 4 years ago. Doesn't the Bible say it is not your place to judge others? None of you know anything about this person or hip hop culture and yet he's written off as "knuckle dragging trash".
Hip hop culture is a cancer on American society in general and the black community in specific. It glorifies drug abuse, violence and misogynism. At the same time it demeans those work and study hard as suckers. Short of the Banksters mention in this forum you would be hard pressed to find another place where a wealthy few exploit their support support base for obscene profit and yet never encourage them to do better.
 

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Hip hop culture is a cancer on American society in general and the black community in specific. It glorifies drug abuse, violence and misogynism. At the same time it demeans those work and study hard as suckers. Short of the Banksters mention in this forum you would be hard pressed to find another place where a wealthy few exploit their support support base for obscene profit and yet never encourage them to do better.
And you just proved my point that you know nothing about the hip hop culture.


Fast forward to 9:35. Like he said, if YOU'RE the parent, BE the parent.

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Are you pissed about the violent video games and movies and sex and porn that are also exposed to your child? Why don't you just go ahead and say all forms of ENTERTAINMENT are a cancer to the American society? You chose to single out a predominantly black culture that you know nothing about.



What a ****in' joke you are.
 

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The leftists "go to" position in virtually any cultural debate... the Bible. How could you possible compare the message in the two... ?

You would have been better off making the distinction in writings from the KKK and this "poet"... both have a cultural following that can only be understood within their cultures. Both are vehement defenders of the beliefs misunderstood by those not living within their cultures.

Neither should be for public consumption in the white house by any sitting administration... was the point.
 

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I just find it funny how conservatives are the first to bible thump and then JUDGE one man on the basis of ONE poem he wrote 4 years ago. Doesn't the Bible say it is not your place to judge others? None of you know anything about this person or hip hop culture and yet he's written off as "knuckle dragging trash".

Here--let me expose the fact that all of you are a bunch of ****in hypocrites.
Oh, we are hypocrites? Let me tell you about hip hop, since you were still soiling your diapers when the genre emerged. Hip hop is mostly about violent rhetoric, glorifying drug use, abuse and degradation of women, violence against police. Your still way too wet behind the ears for this conversation, much less to be calling me a hypocrite, the left are the ones whining about the vitriol.. and when your 20, 4 years is a long time, when you grow up you will find 4 years is nothing.
run along junior..

Common named his daughter after Assata Shakur, a Black Panther who was convicted of first-degree murder 1977. She escaped from prison and exiled to Cuba. The FBI recognizes her as a domestic terrorist.

Common has also been a vocal opponent of mixed race relationships and believes black men and white women should not date. In one rap he says, “I don’t know what it is / but white girls gettin’ ass / I know what it is / It’s cash.”


If conservatives really wants to go down the road of criticizing musicians for select lyrics, there are plenty of other people to criticize. For instance, why has Palin praised musician Kid Rock instead of condemning him?
The NAACP just honored him... and I didn't see kid rock on the invite.. she could have done better. IMO
 

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And you just proved my point that you know nothing about the hip hop culture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCbtvBEPPs8

Fast forward to 9:35. Like he said, if YOU'RE the parent, BE the parent.

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Are you pissed about the violent video games and movies and sex and porn that are also exposed to your child? Why don't you just go ahead and say all forms of ENTERTAINMENT are a cancer to the American society? You chose to single out a predominantly black culture that you know nothing about.



What a ****in' joke you are.
So you cite an interview of a man with a 9th grade education(I cited study hard as a problem) who preformed high until 2007(glorification of drugs) which was the height of his popularity, and his defense of misogynistic and homophobic lyrics is that was the scene he was raised in and he doesn't talk like that at home.

Not everything in entertainment is evil but the culture of hip hop is even cited by your source as how he was raised the scene he was in and how he doesn't live like that at home shows that this "art" is poison.


As for video games and movies we weren't discussing those in this thread we are discussing inviting a controversial rapper to the White House in the guise of poetry.


I do however know that questioning the current President or his First Lady brings accusations of racism.

Still laughing at your joke?
 

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Looks like Tar has a sore spot for crappy music. :laughing:
 

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Oh, we are hypocrites? Let me tell you about hip hop, since you were still soiling your diapers when the genre emerged. Hip hop is mostly about violent rhetoric, glorifying drug use, abuse and degradation of women, violence against police. Your still way too wet behind the ears for this conversation, much less to be calling me a hypocrite, the left are the ones whining about the vitriol.. and when your 20, 4 years is a long time, when you grow up you will find 4 years is nothing.
run along junior..
This argument is laughable. A conservative, white, close-minded, ignorant, old fart, who has listened to about 3 hip hop songs in his entire life, trying to tell the 23 year old kid who grew up listening to hip hop what the genre is about. I have yet to rape a bitch, slap a ho, beat a *****, or kill a cop. No worries though, because if I continue to listen to hip hop I'll probably accomplish one of these feats and I'll end up proving your argument correct. It's ENTERTAINMENT, and if you can't help your child to distinguish ENTERTAINMENT from reality, you're a shitty parent.


I called you a hypocrite because you ARE a ****in hypocrite. All of you are.
 

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This argument is laughable. A conservative, white, close-minded, ignorant, old fart, who has listened to about 3 hip hop songs in his entire life, trying to tell the 23 year old kid who grew up listening to hip hop what the genre is about.
Well lil one, I have listened to all of it, still do. I was probably the only white NWA fan in Texas for years (still on my mp3 player, yes all of them). I haven't told you anything about me, so save your judgement until puberty passes.. I have owned clubs, Stereo/Tint shops, competed in many USAC events (built a Camaro that took 2nd at a big Dallas show 20 years ago), while you were sucking your mommas teet and pooping all over yourself, I was there for rap's early days. I know what it is, and what it's about. I have no problem with it, but it is what it is.. and no snot nose kid is gonna tell me different. :nuts:

I have yet to rape a bitch, slap a ho, beat a *****, or kill a cop. No worries though, because if I continue to listen to hip hop I'll probably accomplish one of these feats and I'll end up proving your argument correct. It's ENTERTAINMENT, and if you can't help your child to distinguish ENTERTAINMENT from reality, you're a shitty parent.
See where you get stupid? I never said it makes anyone do any of it, I said it glorifies it... college boy.

I called you a hypocrite because you ARE a ****in hypocrite. All of you are.
And I called you a snot nose brat, because you are what you are...

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See where you get stupid? I never said it makes anyone do any of it, I said it glorifies it... college boy.
And other forms of entertainment don't? Where's your beef with Call of Duty? Where's your beef with movies that glorify war? Where's your beef with porn? Where's your beef with The Governator? Where's your beef with Ted Nugent telling Obama to suck on his machine gun?


Where's your beef when Common glorifies God?

Common said:
After bein' 25, you know, just trying to survive in the world
Bout to have a little boy or baby girl. Who knows?
Anyway, just when you start gettin that little age and experience to
you
You start thinkin about stuff...tryin to make the right moves
So bust it out, this is what I was thinkin, check it
Yo, the education of the Lon-chicka-Lonnie Lynn
Began, began with time
Bein my bloodline is one with the divine
In time brotha, you will discover the light
Some say that God is Black and the Devil's White
Well, the Devil is wrong and God is what's right
I fight, with myself in the ring of doubt and fear
The rain ain't gone, but I can still see clear
As a child, given religion with no answer to why
Just told believe in Jesus cuz for me he did die
Curiosity killed the catechism
Understanding and wisdom became the rhythm that I played to
And became a slave to master self
A rich man is one with knowledge, happiness and his health
My mind had dealt with the books of Zen, Tao the lessons
Koran and the Bible, to me they all vital
And got truth within 'em, gotta read them boys
You just can't skim 'em, different branches of belief
But one root that stem 'em, but people of the venom try to trim 'em
And use religion as an emblem
When it should be a natural way of life
Who am I or they to say to whom you pray ain't right
That's who got you doin right and got you this far
Whether you say "in Jesus name" or Hum do Allah
Long as you know it's a bein' that's supreme to you
You let that show towards others in the things you do
Cuz when the trumpets blowin, 24 elders surround the throne
Only 144,000 gon get home
Only 144,000 gon get home
Only 144,000 gon get it baby
Where's your beef when Eminem glorifies perseverance and making the most of the opportunities you get in life:

Eminem said:
Cause sometimes you feel tired,
feel weak, and when you feel weak, you feel like you wanna just give up.
But you gotta search within you, you gotta find that inner strength
and just pull that **** out of you and get that motivation to not give up
and not be a quitter, no matter how bad you wanna just fall flat on your face and collapse.

Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted-One moment
Would you capture it or just let it slip? I been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage
But I kept rhyming and stepwritin the next cypher
Best believe somebody's paying the pied piper
All the pain inside amplified by the fact
That I can't get by with my 9 to 5
And I can't provide the right type of life for my family
Cause man, these goddam food stamps don't buy diapers
And it's no movie, there's no Mekhi Phifer, this is my life
And these times are so hard and it's getting even harder
Trying to feed and water my seed, plus
Teeter totter caught up between being a father and a prima donna
Baby mama drama's screaming on and
Too much for me to wanna
Stay in one spot, another day of monotony
Has gotten me to the point, I'm like a snail
I've got to formulate a plot or I end up in jail or shot
Success is my only motherfucking option, failure's not

All I'm saying is making a snap judgement on someone on the basis of ONE thing they've done is just ****in stupid. And why the **** does it even matter what he's said in the past? He's not going to tell kids in the white house to bust a cap.
 

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I just can't believe this thread and the No Breakfast for Kids thread got almost 200 hits....:rolleyes:


(Mental note to self....make more threads with

Michelle Obama in the title)
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And other forms of entertainment don't? Where's your beef with Call of Duty? Where's your beef with movies that glorify war? Where's your beef with porn? Where's your beef with The Governator? Where's your beef with Ted Nugent telling Obama to suck on his machine gun?


Where's your beef when Common glorifies God?
He is an inappropriate guest for this WH event. I don't have a beef with any of the above.. hell I don't have a beef with him, but I seldom listen to any of the new stuff, too many wannabes.


Where's your beef when Eminem glorifies perseverance and making the most of the opportunities you get in life:
I have no beef with Eminem.. even though I am also a fan of ICP :laughing: Stan, now that's a hellofa song..

All I'm saying is making a snap judgement on someone on the basis of ONE thing they've done is just ****in stupid.
So, how would you classify your snap judgement of me?
 

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So, how would you classify your snap judgement of me?
How would you classify your snap judgement of me?
:cheers:

By the way, Uzi is not slang for a compact machine gun, which further discredits the OPs article. It's an actual Hebrew word that describes a family of guns. ;)
 

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Well lil one, I have listened to all of it, still do. I was probably the only white NWA fan in Texas for years (still on my mp3 player, yes all of them). I haven't told you anything about me, so save your judgement until puberty passes.. I have owned clubs, Stereo/Tint shops, competed in many USAC events (built a Camaro that took 2nd at a big Dallas show 20 years ago), while you were sucking your mommas teet and pooping all over yourself, I was there for rap's early days. I know what it is, and what it's about. I have no problem with it, but it is what it is.. ....
TMI

My ears, my ears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laughing:
 
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