[ironhorse]

No luck needed in the elections, as I have said the democrats are doing all the campaigning for whoever runs against them this year and in 2012. By the time 2012 rolls around they may be able to roll a rooster out of the barn and have it beat Obama. The only ones needing luck are the democrats..... and it isn't coming anytime soon. So you keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better at night..... it is looking more and more like this is a one term President.

:agree:

 

[ChasC5]

:agree:

So Sarah is running … that’s great. :thumbsup:

The GOPs goal from day one, was to obstruct have the Government do absolutely nothing but help the rich.

That a great set of Goals, since it was so successful over the last decade.

I can remember 2008 … but the GOP is hopping you can’t. :laughing:

 

[duneripperxx]

How Barack Obama Became Mr. Unpopular

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2015629,00.html

yeah....



ummmm.....





That stuff happens when you inheirit the largest recession since the great depression...

The great recession took over a decade to exit from.


Too many people look at the 90's as a benchmark for a good, average economy.

With todays globalization...(thanks to US corps).... The new benchmark for a average economy is more like recession 80's.

Especially with our overpopulation of immigration and social burden.

 

[ChasC5]

yeah....



ummmm.....





That stuff happens when you inheirit the largest recession since the great depression...

The great recession took over a decade to exit from.


Too many people look at the 90's as a benchmark for a good, average economy.

With todays globalization...(thanks to US corps).... The new benchmark for a average economy is more like recession 80's.

Especially with our overpopulation of immigration and social burden.

Shhhhhh …. not so loud … they are still in denial. :laughing:

They want the stupid to think Obama was President in 2008.

 

[Texdentist]

Seems even Obamas third rail is turning on him. Time magazine has an article entitled "How Obama became so Unpopular" It's sad for you lefties, but true. Americans now see Obama as an agenda driven president determined to install a European style big-government solution to every problem - regardless of the political consequences, and regardless that the people are saying "That's not us".

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2015629,00.html

 

[Exotix]

Seems even Obamas third rail is turning on him. Time magazine has an article entitled "How Obama became so Unpopular" It's sad for you lefties, but true. Americans now see Obama as an agenda driven president determined to install a European style big-government solution to every problem - regardless of the political consequences, and regardless that the people are saying "That's not us".

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2015629,00.html

What basis of comparison is there concerning Big Government ?

Oh I get it ... Bush was the Big Government that ate us alive and Obama is/was the *Hope & Change* that it wouldn't ...

Thought I'd clarify that for you ... :thumbsup:

 

[ArKay99]

So Sarah is running … that’s great. :thumbsup:

Whatever, she would have to pass the muster of Candidace from the pubs first. I think handling it the way she is is great. All she has to do is show up and the left becomes 'unhinged'.

The GOPs goal from day one, was to obstruct have the Government do absolutely nothing but help the rich.

Well, I suppose that's all the D-Bags have, so I understand why you have to regurgitate it ad nauseum.

That a great set of Goals, since it was so successful over the last decade.

One would think so if one was objective about who was in control of Congress since 2006 AND what was the major factor in taking down the economy... The answer is in my next retort.

I can remember 2008 … but the GOP is hopping you can’t. :laughing:

If you remember 2008 and are objective about it, the policy of 'everyone should own a home' that bankrupt Fanny and Freddy by giving loans to people with questionable financial status was step one. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were and still are in charge of the Banking Commision, the committe in charge of banking regulations. Dems that set the stage for the collapse with the lending policies designed to help the poor, NOT THE RICH. Then in step 2 the collapse of the mortgage backed securities from that collapse destroyed every lending institution that took part in mortgage lending and securities speculation.

So, how has helping the rich destroyed the economy? Could it possibly have anything to do with helping the poor by attempting to give them equity they couldn't afford or acquire by traditional means?

 

[ArKay99]

What basis of comparison is there concerning Big Government ?

Oh I get it ... Bush was the Big Government that ate us alive and Obama is/was the *Hope & Change* that it wouldn't ...

Thought I'd clarify that for you ... :thumbsup:

You're just concerned that once Obama's power is put under control that you'll lose your 'tit' as Simpson has put it. :laughing:

 

[Texdentist]

What basis of comparison is there concerning Big Government ?

Oh I get it ... Bush was the Big Government that ate us alive and Obama is/was the *Hope & Change* that it wouldn't ...

Thought I'd clarify that for you ... :thumbsup:

Obama clearly believes government is the solution to every problem. If he had his way, I have no doubt he would move us to Socialism even faster - even as Europe is finding Socialism drags everyone down instead of lifting them up as advertised.

 

[ChasC5]

I personally could care less if Obama every makes any friends in Washington.

It’s not there to make friends; he was elected to do exactly what said he was going to do.

It’s been 19 months … not 48 months.

So passing Health Care Reform is a start, bring home heroes isn’t un-patriotic, reforming Wall Street crooks in fine with me.

If he’s President for one term, that’s fine with me also. As long as he get more done in one term than his predecessor did in two.

It’s far better than being a two term screw-up.


Have a nice week boys and girls .... :buhbye:

 

[duneripperxx]

Seems even Obamas third rail is turning on him. Time magazine has an article entitled "How Obama became so Unpopular" It's sad for you lefties, but true. Americans now see Obama as an agenda driven president determined to install a European style big-government solution to every problem - regardless of the political consequences, and regardless that the people are saying "That's not us".

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2015629,00.html

America wants to take a pill and make it all go away overnight.
Huge recessions dont work that way.

:thumbsup:

Voters hard at work with their gray matter.:thumbsup:

 

[ArKay99]

yeah....

ummmm.....

That stuff happens when you inheirit the largest recession since the great depression...

The great recession took over a decade to exit from.


Too many people look at the 90's as a benchmark for a good, average economy.

With todays globalization...(thanks to US corps).... The new benchmark for a average economy is more like recession 80's.

There is some truth here, but the application Keynsian economics to the economy has been proven to fail where applied, as of late, so the current economic direction is doomed to mediocraty.

Especially with our overpopulation of immigration and social burden.

:agree:
The real problem here is the mediocre economy trying to pull itself up while dragging this burden along with it. Unsustainable comes to mind.

 

[ArKay99]

America wants to take a pill and make it all go away overnight.
Huge recessions dont work that way.

Voters hard at work with their gray matter.:thumbsup:

Well, I can link to all sorts of stupid and ignorant stuff from the other side.

You're right the huge recessions don't work that way. How have we gotten out of any huge recession in the past?

 

[Exotix]

You're just concerned that once Obama's power is put under control that you'll lose your 'tit' as Simpson has put it. :laughing:

:devil:

 

[duneripperxx]

Well, I can link to all sorts of stupid and ignorant stuff from the other side.

You're right the huge recessions don't work that way. How have we gotten out of any huge recession in the past?

The great depression lasted from 1930 to 1949.

Past resessions? tough to say.

Each time the dynamics are changed.

Far worse dynamics are in play now.


With the huge loss in home values, 75 percent homes upside down, middle class bennies that drove a huge market are getting dropped for better profits, which tanks the hc industry, and people cannot afford hc anymore, 401Ks are unreliable, wages are down 30 percent, Boomers and seniors are dying, which are the last bastion of the middle class with equity, we need to downsize govt, add 10 million of them to unemployed, 2 million afgan and iraq war vets to unemployment, mothball the military and aerospace war contracts, which will dump another 5 million jobs and add unemployment, HC will crash and only be affordable to the wealthy unless for some reason the middle class magically find 14k a year per family to pay for it, HC crashing will add another 20 millin to unemployed, plus we have the current unemployed and all those 20 mill? new immigrants that are draining the system...an expanding outsourcing trend...Companies like Blockbuster and Wellpoint that inflate their prices to cover overhead and profit requirments...Energy and food speculation.....

I dont see any way out nomatter who the next few presidents are or what they do.

 

[duneripperxx]

pleasr excuse the typos.....

 

[walleyfisher]

The great depression lasted from 1930 to 1949.

Past resessions? tough to say.

Each time the dynamics are changed.

Far worse dynamics are in play now.


With the huge loss in home values, 75 percent homes upside down, middle class bennies that drove a huge market are getting dropped for better profits, which tanks the hc industry, and people cannot afford hc anymore, 401Ks are unreliable, wages are down 30 percent, Boomers and seniors are dying, which are the last bastion of the middle class with equity, we need to downsize govt, add 10 million of them to unemployed, 2 million afgan and iraq war vets to unemployment, mothball the military and aerospace war contracts, which will dump another 5 million jobs and add unemployment, HC will crash and only be affordable to the wealthy unless for some reason the middle class magically find 14k a year per family to pay for it, HC crashing will add another 20 millin to unemployed, plus we have the current unemployed and all those 20 mill? new immigrants that are draining the system...an expanding outsourcing trend...Companies like Blockbuster and Wellpoint that inflate their prices to cover overhead and profit requirments...Energy and food speculation.....

I dont see any way out nomatter who the next few presidents are or what they do.

:agree: Thats why WE need to teach and live our lives with Faith, Hope, and Charity, It will take years to fix what has been started the last 100 years. If everybody works at it the right 535 people will be in government and all this will be fixed:lookinup: As far as today, we all need to elect people for the right values not the right party:huh:

 

[Texdentist]

The great depression lasted from 1930 to 1949.

Past resessions? tough to say.

Each time the dynamics are changed.

Far worse dynamics are in play now.


With the huge loss in home values, 75 percent homes upside down, middle class bennies that drove a huge market are getting dropped for better profits, which tanks the hc industry, and people cannot afford hc anymore, 401Ks are unreliable, wages are down 30 percent, Boomers and seniors are dying, which are the last bastion of the middle class with equity, we need to downsize govt, add 10 million of them to unemployed, 2 million afgan and iraq war vets to unemployment, mothball the military and aerospace war contracts, which will dump another 5 million jobs and add unemployment, HC will crash and only be affordable to the wealthy unless for some reason the middle class magically find 14k a year per family to pay for it, HC crashing will add another 20 millin to unemployed, plus we have the current unemployed and all those 20 mill? new immigrants that are draining the system...an expanding outsourcing trend...Companies like Blockbuster and Wellpoint that inflate their prices to cover overhead and profit requirments...Energy and food speculation.....

I dont see any way out nomatter who the next few presidents are or what they do.

The economy is undoubtedly a major factor in the downturn of Obama's popularity. But I believe it's more than that. Even in bad times, the majority of this country wants the solution to be a stronger private sector economy, and they ultimately want to be the masters of their own fate. The cornerstone of being an American has always been a strong work ethic and self-sufficiency. Most of us want that for ourselves - not just everyone else. Obama's love for big government solutions and dependency on the government tit just doesn't sit will with most Americans. When Tea Partiers talk about "taking our country back", this is what they are talking about. The left wants to pretend it's some kind of dark longing for white supremacist ways, but it's really about the breathing freedom that comes from taking care of one's self. And the only way we can do that is to be left with enough of our earnings to manage it.

 

[ArKay99]

:devil:
...

Those appear to be implants. Nice to look at, but unstainable in the long run. :thumbsup:

 

[duneripperxx]

The economy is undoubtedly a major factor in the downturn of Obama's popularity. But I believe it's more than that. Even in bad times, the majority of this country wants the solution to be a stronger private sector economy, and they ultimately want to be the masters of their own fate. The cornerstone of being an American has always been a strong work ethic and self-sufficiency. Most of us want that for ourselves

But most popular presidents see a 20 percent drop in popularity within the first two years, let alone a deep recession.

and pogressives are responsible for most of our past growing economic bubbles, most of our economic growth in the last 20 years.

The new American work ethic is lie n cheat your way to the top.