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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-02-02-Egypt-military_N.htm?csp=24





CAIRO — Vicious battles between anti-government protesters and supporters of President Hosni Mubarak broke out on the streets of downtown Cairo on Wednesday, one day after Mubarak announced he would step down at the end of his term.


By Ben Curtis, AP
Pro-government demonstrators, below, and anti-government demonstrators, above, clash Wednesday in Tahrir square, the center of anti-government demonstrations, in Cairo.
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Pro-government demonstrators, below, and anti-government demonstrators, above, clash Wednesday in Tahrir square, the center of anti-government demonstrations, in Cairo.
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The two sides threw rocks and chunks of concrete at one another at Tahrir Square, the site of the anti-government demonstrations over the past week. The clashes began when pro-Mubarak forces closed in on the square that opposition protesters had occupied for more than a week.

Demonstrators who support the president began appearing in large numbers Wednesday.

"The people in Tahir Saqure are not Egyptians," said Gamel el-Fekey, 54, who showed up for a pro-Mubarak rally. "Mubarak is the father of our country."

Dozens of protesters were injured in the melee, many of whom ran through the streets with blood streaming down their faces. Opposition protesters beat pro-Mubarak demonstrators as they were dragged, wounded, through the crowds.

At one point a group of dozens of pro-Mubarak demonstrators on horses and camels charged into the crowd at Tahrir Square, swinging whips and clubs and scattering protestors in all directions. The mounted column drew stares as the horses and camels crossed a four-lane bridge leading into the city before plunging headlong into crowds of protesters.

The riders carried banners and flags aloft as they trotted along pavement toward the city center. The afternoon clashes followed earlier signs that the country was returning to normal. All this after demonstrations that brought the country to a virtual standstill.

The fighting was a new twist in a revolt that started more than a week ago and threatens the stability of a key U.S. ally in the region. Anti-government protesters have said they are not satisfied with Mubarak?s statement and pledged to continue to pressure him to resign.

Some police have returned to the streets, and there were efforts to remove burned out police vehicles from the street. Internet service has also returned. But soldiers ringing Tahrir Square did not appear to make any efforts to stop the clashes.

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Almost immediately after Mubarak announced late Tuesday night that he would serve out the remaining seven months of his term and would not leave the country, groups of Mubarak supporters rarely seen before in the week of anti-government protests took to the streets, some carrying knives and sticks.

In Alexandria, clashes erupted right after Mubarak's address between the two sides.

A military spokesman appeared on state TV Wednesday and asked the protesters to disperse so life in Egypt could get back to normal. The declaration was a clear shift in the stand of the army, which gave a tacit endorsement to the movement on Monday by saying it would not use force against protesters, and that they had legitimate demands.

The emboldened protesters had brought more than 250,000 people into Cairo's main square Tuesday to demand Mubarak leave within days. The president responded before midnight with a statement pledging to serve the final seven more months of his term but not to seek re-election.

Representatives of his National Democratic Party immediately began making public statements trying to project the image of the regime as Egypt's sole path back to stability and security after the disruption of normal life caused by eight days of protests, and a wave of looting and arson that gripped the country over the weekend after the government pulled police from the street.

"We recognize deceit when we see it," said protester Nasser Saad Abdel-Latif. "No one will lose their energy ... We won't go until he goes."

The army's message to the demonstrators Wednesday had a conciliatory tone, appealing to young protesters to stand down "out of love for Egypt."

"You have started coming out to express your demands and you are the ones capable of returning normal life to Egypt," military spokesman Ismail Etman said in an address on state television. "Your message has arrived, your demands have become known."

Immediately after his statement, state television ran a scrolling message reading: "The armed forces call on the protesters to go home for the sake of bringing back stability."

Internet service also began returning to Egypt after days of an unprecedented cutoff by the government, and state TV said authorities were easing a nighttime curfew, which now runs from 5 p.m. to 7 a.m. instead of 3 p.m. to 8 a.m."



I'm impressed....:surprised
 

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This can quickly escalate into all-out civil war, if the military has to engage if things get really out of hand...

It will be Iran 2010 times ten. When that hapens the possibility for spil over increases exponentially, and the coming insurrection becomes a reality...after that, say hello to a Calliphate for the whole ME, Europe, Africa, and England.

If that happens, we had better start relying on our own resources, i.e. oil, coal, or we're just as effed.
 

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If that happens, we had better start relying on our own resources, i.e. oil, coal, or we're just as effed.
:laughing: We are printing money, to buy our own debt, and paying a private bank interest on the money we are printing. We have 20% + unemployment, our trade deficits are the largest in the history of the world, our infrastructure is falling apart and we are steadily choking off our energy development.

How do you figure we aren't already effed? :crazy: :laughing:
 

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:laughing: We are printing money, to buy our own debt, and paying a private bank interest on the money we are printing. We have 20% + unemployment, our trade deficits are the largest in the history of the world, our infrastructure is falling apart and we are steadily choking off our energy development.

How do you figure we aren't already effed? :crazy: :laughing:
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I just bought a fishing rod, and am really happy about that 2 troy lbs. of gold bought 1.5 yrs ago. However, I was speaking primarily to the effects a Calliphate would have on assiting the final collapse. Add to that, the notion that we won't be able to reverse the problems you've enumerated above...if you think we're effed now, wait until that chaos kicks in.
 

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I just bought a fishing rod, and am really happy about that 2 troy lbs. of gold bought 1.5 yrs ago. However, I was speaking primarily to the effects a Calliphate would have on assiting the final collapse. Add to that, the notion that we won't be able to reverse the problems you've enumerated above...if you think we're effed now, wait until that chaos kicks in.
:laughing: The ME thing probably will spread like wildfire.. the clashes are a bad sign.

I wonder when Rep. Waxoff, err Waxman is going to open an investigation into himself for his investigation into Beck recommending gold,now that it's doubled. :lookinup:
 

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We are printing money, to buy our own debt, and paying a private bank interest on the money we are printing.

Most people dont get that.

Our recessions make the owners of the Fed Res rich.


The more in the hole we are, the more they profit.
 

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If Egypt falls to the Islamists, Pakistan won't be far behind - along with their roughly 100 nuclear weapons. This could get very ugly very quickly.
 

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