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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama has announced a bipartisan agreement on year-end legislation to extend expiring tax cuts and renew jobless benefits as part of a sweeping attempt to strengthen the economic recovery.

Other elements include a cut in Social Security taxes for millions of Americans.

Obama did not mention it, but top congressional Democrats objected to the proposal earlier in the day on grounds it was too generous to the wealthy.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama ran into objections from congressional Democrats on Monday to an emerging year-end agreement with Republicans that extends income tax cuts to the wealthy as well as the middle class and grants additional relief to large estates.

Other elements of the possible agreement included a cut in workers' Social Security taxes and an extension of unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless.

Top Democrats traveled to the White House and left later without discussing the details of their discussions with Obama and Vice President Joe Biden. Several officials said there was discontent over tax cut provisions that Republicans had demanded from the president, apparently successfully.

The White House meeting occurred after Obama returned to Washington from a trip to North Carolina, where he said he and Congress must "make sure we're coming up with a solution, even if it's not 100 percent what I want or 100 percent what the Republicans want."

Democrats have repeatedly raised objections to including the upper-income in any plan to extend tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 when George W. Bush was president. The Democratic-controlled House recently passed legislation to let the cuts lapse on incomes over $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples. On Saturday, Republicans blocked an attempt by Senate Democrats to do the same.

Despite the grumbling, White House officials underscored the benefits of the overall proposal for lower and middle class workers.

They noted that without the proposed extension of long-term unemployment benefits, 2 million workers would lose their assistance in December, and 7 million by the end of 2011.

They said the payroll tax holiday under consideration would be for one year, and mean an extra $120 billion would remain in worker paychecks. The proposal would supplant an earlier White House demand to extend a tax cut for lower-income and middle-income families.

They also said there were tax breaks for businesses that would encourage them to expand operations, thus stimulating an economy that is struggling to recover from the worst recession in 80 years.

But White House officials were far more reticent about claiming economic benefit from a planned extension in the estate tax. Officials said in discussions with Republicans, the White House was willing to entertain a two-year extension in which estates totaling $5 million and less would pass to heirs tax-free. Anything over that level would be taxed at 35 percent.

Many Democrats favor a far less generous proposal, under which the first $3.5 million would be tax-free, and anything above that level taxed at 45 percent.

The grumbling among Democrats underscored a dramatic shift in political power in the month since midterm elections, in which Republicans won control of the House and strengthened their hand in the Senate.

The newly elected lawmakers have yet to take their seats, but the White House has been quick to reach out in search of compromises.

Bu contrast, Obama spent his first two years in office generally bargaining with Democrats as he labored to pass key legislation such as an economic stimulus in 2009 and his health care overhaul earlier this year.

Momentum for a year-end deal picked up after Obama met at the White House last week with Republican leaders for the first time since his party's dispiriting election losses, and accelerated again when the government reported last week that joblessness had risen in November, to 9.8 percent.

The flurry of negotiations is taking place with lawmakers eager to wrap up their work for the year and adjourn for the holidays.

Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky have all said in recent days they believe a deal on tax cuts and unemployment benefits is possible by midweek. If so, that would leave time for the Senate to hold a ratification debate on a new arms control treaty with Russia, which Obama has made a top year-end priority.

Senate Republicans have seemed more willing to hold a ratification debate in recent days as the negotiations over taxes intensified, suggesting at least an implicit link between the two issues in the talks.

Few details of the negotiations were available, including the length of a payroll tax holiday under discussion.

But it appeared increasingly likely that any extension of the Bush-era income tax cuts would be for two years.

Obama and Democrats have long insisted that tax cuts be allowed to lapse for incomes over $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples, saying that would cushion the impact on the deficit.

On the other hand, Republicans want all tax cuts extended permanently, arguing it made no economic sense to raise taxes with the economy still recovering from the recession.

Questions remained about how many concessions Obama could extract from Republicans in exchange for extending current tax rates for high earners, a proposal he opposed. But without action, lawmakers face the prospect of delivering a tax hike to all taxpayers at the end of the year, when the current rates expire and revert to higher pre-2001 and 2003 levels.

Negotiations between the Obama administration and a bipartisan group of lawmakers centered on a two-year extension of current rates.

At the same time, a jump in the unemployment rate to 9.8 percent is putting pressure on Republicans to accede to Obama's demand that Congress extend unemployment insurance for a year. GOP congressional leaders had opposed an extension of benefits without cuts elsewhere in the federal budget.

www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/12/.../general-us-tax-cuts_8186021.html
 

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The capitulation over anticipated tax generation was very -very obvious... -then again, what other choice did he have ?


























Fooking crying... :rolling:
 

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Does this mean dems really understand suppply side economics after all
 

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That's a pretty good editing job. Goes to Bush/Cheney/Neocons who brought us to this day. Sad.
 

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It really was, right ? I even did a frame by frame advancement... and could not find the splice. It's actually scary. That was just from the Leno show... can you imagine what digital arts could make it seem like you did ?
 

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I rather imagine the entire Democrat assembly... going down like dominoes.
 

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That's a pretty good editing job. Goes to Bush/Cheney/Neocons who brought us to this day. Sad.
Too bad all the payroll in america is gonna be fooked up for the first quarter and not have those tax cuts.



That's what you said was going to happen, right?
 

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Too bad all the payroll in america is gonna be fooked up for the first quarter and not have those tax cuts.



That's what you said was going to happen, right?
They still have to vote on it...
Hey, this is something new for this White House...they HAD to compromise...:laughing: Obama doesn't look good eating humble pie. :laughing:
 

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Looks like this is designed to fail. The Obamanation gets credit for being flexible, the reps get the shaft because the outgoing dems aren't going to let it happen and Obama can say, "Damn, I tried!".

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I'm going to look at that C6 I wanted this afternoon!!!!:partyon: Not.
 

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Looks like this is designed to fail. The Obamanation gets credit for being flexible, the reps get the shaft because the outgoing dems aren't going to let it happen and Obama can say, "Damn, I tried!".

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Correct again you are. :thumbsup:

He's playing his followers like a cheap guitar. :laughing:

Got to love how he makes a deal behind closed doors and then comes out screaming he was held hostage. Just last week he was preaching for harmony in Washington. :rolleyes: What a liar.
 

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Correct again you are. :thumbsup:
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He's playing his followers like a cheap guitar. :laughing:
He plays well, doesn't he? Even though, there is a lot of overdubbing, pitch, and timing correction. Perhaps his instrument needs an overhaul. His fans are loyal though.
Got to love how he makes a deal behind closed doors and then comes out screaming he was held hostage. Just last week he was preaching for harmony in Washington. :rolleyes: What a liar.
Dragged kicking and screaming to something that will help his success...maybe :nuts:
 
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