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What do you think? $5.00 gas this summer?


http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/22/markets/oil_libya_markets/

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Oil prices jumped 6% Tuesday, spiking as high as $98 a barrel earlier in the session, as the crisis in Libya sparked concern that the turmoil roiling the Middle East could spread to other producing countries -- including Saudi Arabia.

U.S. crude for April delivery rose $5.71, or 6.4%, to settle at $95.42 a barrel in midday activity. The U.S. market was closed Monday for a holiday, although there was a 6% gain in international trading.

0Email Print Unrest in Libya has entered its eighth day, fueled by protestors against high unemployment and dictator Moammar Gadhafi's 42-year reign. At least 233 people have been killed since protests began, according to Human Rights Watch.

Gadhafi appeared on state-run television in front of his Tripoli home, the damage still evident from a U.S. bombing in the 1980s, in response to Western news reports that he had fled the country.

"Libya will lead the revolution, will lead America, will lead Asia, will lead the whole world," said Gadhafi, 68, near a statue of a fist crushing an American war plane. "I will be a martyr until the end. Libya we have irrigated by our blood."
 

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That Gadhafi Duck is a total nut....wonder if he is related to Preacher. (jk):laughing:


I hope he becomes a martyr real soon.
 

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It's a jack *%#[email protected]%*[email protected]

Most of our oil doesn't even come from the middle east,

Also if they would support their country for once, instead of Holding us all Hostage here all the time, and causing rapid Inflation as well as unstable Markets, WTF

I mean it's the least they can do after flooding the entire southern coast of the united states with oil wiping out fisheries and all associated businesses,

The oil industry has turned out to be a Wicked Greedy Curse of this nation,

What will happen eventually is Oil will be Deemed a "Vital Fluid" :nuts:Like water, which it is, And they will set a cap on its price,
 

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What will happen eventually is Oil will be Deemed a "Vital Fluid" :nuts:Like water, which it is, And they will set a cap on its price,
More like a limit or "cap" on how much we can use.

You have to remember.....this plays right into the left's hands. The higher the oil prices, the better their "green initiatives" look. :nuts:
 

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The federal government has took the left's stupid idea's for the last 40 years, and the result is, we don't produce anything, we don't have a manufacturing sector to speak of, we don't even produce enough energy for half the country and now the **** is hitting the fan everywhere else. We are probably $150 - $200 trillion in the hole if real numbers and non-government math was used.

$5 gas? :laughing: We will probably be wishing we could find $5 gas by summer.
 

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No reason for the spike. Supplies are beating demand. Surplusses in storage. Sounds like opportunistic speculators at it again. Just like they made up the excuse of another palestinian getting shot to spike the prices.

This is crap. We are getting raped.
 

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It's a jack *%#[email protected]%*[email protected]

Most of our oil doesn't even come from the middle east,

Also if they would support their country for once, instead of Holding us all Hostage here all the time, and causing rapid Inflation as well as unstable Markets, WTF

I mean it's the least they can do after flooding the entire southern coast of the united states with oil wiping out fisheries and all associated businesses,

The oil industry has turned out to be a Wicked Greedy Curse of this nation,

What will happen eventually is Oil will be Deemed a "Vital Fluid" :nuts:Like water, which it is, And they will set a cap on its price,
Having lived through $9.00 a barrel oil, I am gonna say...

The rest of you fookers can go rot. You left us to wither on ther raodside now enjoy the role reversal.:nuts:


Sorry, I get really pissed when people really believe that the Oil Companies or even OPEC has the power to drastically affect prices.
 

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Having lived through $9.00 a barrel oil, I am gonna say...

The rest of you fookers can go rot. You left us to wither on ther raodside now enjoy the role reversal.:nuts:


Sorry, I get really pissed when people really believe that the Oil Companies or even OPEC has the power to drastically affect prices.
Of course Opec and the oil industry can influence the price of gas at the pumps, So can the feds through taxation,

If the green Sceam was real and I could buy E85 at any Gas station , I'd run my vette on that, Who cares if I don't get as good of gas mileage, Its a weekend car and E85 = 105 Octane Which = More compression and @$2.85 A Gallon
I'd show you my "Good Finger":nuts:


Much better than that Cheap ass **** your pushing at the pumps with a 91 octane rating and $4 a gallon !

Oh yeah, And now it is 15% ethanol instead of 10%so it ain't even real gas anymore

Thanks a lot, you Phuckers
 

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It's a government conspiracy....It's an oil company conspiracy??? No it is what you get when you make Camel jockeys and goat herders into billionairs overnight. Its what you get when your energy comes form the most unstable region in the world. Of course the instability comes in part from the money that oil brings but then you have to factor in the ignorance of those getting the money, and that gives you what we have in Gadhafi.

Face it people the future of oil is bleak. We don't have enough of it here anymore and what we have here is getting more expensive to extract everyday. (quick fact...did you know it takes 8 barrels of clean drinking water now to extract 1 barrel of oil in california) The best thing that this country could do is to accelerate the development and implimentation of alternative sources of energy to produce electricity. Push the electric car market as much as possible to take advantage of that electricity made form non fossil fuels and allow gasoline to eventualy become the fuel for just us classic car owners.

That is the best way to stop depending on the wack jobs in the middle east....let them start selling their oil to the third world countries at prices they can afford while competing with new technologies that we have developed. Hell let them learn to drink it for what it is worth. Otherwise our economy remains at the mercy of the nuts in the middle east. By the way the way things are going there our buddies will be gone by next summer and we will be buying from the muslim brotherhood. Can you all say Salam Aliakum??? No?? Well you better learn to.
 

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Even if there were a sustainable, economical and viable source for replacing 10% of our needs... and there's not, otherwise we would be using it -we don't possess the infrastructure to support it. The only other alternative at this point (and the next 50 years of hope) is for us to dig and drill for our own energy needs... partnering with Canada and Mexico.
 

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It's a government conspiracy....It's an oil company conspiracy??? No it is what you get when you make Camel jockeys and goat herders into billionairs overnight. Its what you get when your energy comes form the most unstable region in the world. Of course the instability comes in part from the money that oil brings but then you have to factor in the ignorance of those getting the money, and that gives you what we have in Gadhafi.

Face it people the future of oil is bleak. We don't have enough of it here anymore and what we have here is getting more expensive to extract everyday. (quick fact...did you know it takes 8 barrels of clean drinking water now to extract 1 barrel of oil in california) The best thing that this country could do is to accelerate the development and implimentation of alternative sources of energy to produce electricity. Push the electric car market as much as possible to take advantage of that electricity made form non fossil fuels and allow gasoline to eventualy become the fuel for just us classic car owners.

That is the best way to stop depending on the wack jobs in the middle east....let them start selling their oil to the third world countries at prices they can afford while competing with new technologies that we have developed. Hell let them learn to drink it for what it is worth. Otherwise our economy remains at the mercy of the nuts in the middle east. By the way the way things are going there our buddies will be gone by next summer and we will be buying from the muslim brotherhood. Can you all say Salam Aliakum??? No?? Well you better learn to.
They need to offer E85 at all the pumps like they do diesel


Thats gives people a choice, And will remove some of the Power the Oil industry has to inflate the cost of living,

Also E85 should be an option Not mandatory

The fact that E85 is not even offered at the pumps tells me that the " Green Sceam " Is a Scam ,

Perhaps the Communists of the Green party in Sacramento need to put their money $$$$ Where their mouth is and offer alternative fuel at the pumps,

I bet they don't tho because at the end of the day,

Their Cause is just alot of Hot air, New regulations, More Wasteful government agency's ,

They have accomplished Absolutely nothing as far as cleaner burning fuel in California,
 

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We should never use our food for fuel.
 

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They need to offer E85 at all the pumps like they do diesel


Thats gives people a choice, And will remove some of the Power the Oil industry has to inflate the cost of living,

Also E85 should be an option Not mandatory

The fact that E85 is not even offered at the pumps tells me that the " Green Sceam " Is a Scam ,

Perhaps the Communists of the Green party in Sacramento need to put their money $$$$ Where their mouth is and offer alternative fuel at the pumps,

I bet they don't tho because at the end of the day,

Their Cause is just alot of Hot air, New regulations, More Wasteful government agency's ,

They have accomplished Absolutely nothing as far as cleaner burning fuel in California,
Do you really believe this or just making hay? E85 cost more in natural resources than gas. Using valuable food sources and energey to produce.:lookinup: Take away all the Government subsities and it would cost a hell of alot more than gas:crazy: plus the price of food would rise through the roof. It not present at every pump because this is not a rell good source for fuel but keep blaming the oil company's if it makes you sleep at night :surprised
 

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Even if there were a sustainable, economical and viable source for replacing 10% of our needs... and there's not, otherwise we would be using it -we don't possess the infrastructure to support it. The only other alternative at this point (and the next 50 years of hope) is for us to dig and drill for our own energy needs... partnering with Canada and Mexico.
So we should do nothing hide our heads in the sand and just keep paying through the ass for oil. Solar and nuclear could if invested in now replace all of our energy needs within 10 years. But it will take a realization that oil is finite and we need to change. You know that enough solar energy hits the earth in 1 hour to power the entire world for a year. We just need to develope the ability to capture that energy and distribute it.
 

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So we should do nothing hide our heads in the sand and just keep paying through the ass for oil. Solar and nuclear could if invested in now replace all of our energy needs within 10 years. But it will take a realization that oil is finite and we need to change. You know that enough solar energy hits the earth in 1 hour to power the entire world for a year. We just need to develope the ability to capture that energy and distribute it.
There is plenty of oil. Always has been. We will face a catastrophic natural disaster long before the oil runs out. And if solar is so great, why the $25+ per Kwh subsidy from the government? Why hasn't a smart company (like GE) produced some kind of green energy with all the subsidies they get?

When there is a viable product (oil/coal/gas) then entrepreneurship kicks into high gear. When there is a unicorn to be chased, stupidity and government kick into high gear.
 

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Do you really believe this or just making hay? E85 cost more in natural resources than gas. Using valuable food sources and energey to produce.:lookinup: Take away all the Government subsities and it would cost a hell of alot more than gas:crazy: plus the price of food would rise through the roof. It not present at every pump because this is not a rell good source for fuel but keep blaming the oil company's if it makes you sleep at night :surprised
We are already running on 15% E85 in california

Valuable Food resources lol

Thats funny, They use the same unedible corn used to feed live stock,

No one ever said everyone should use E85

But if 20% of the population began using it there is plenty of natural resources to produce that
 

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We should never use our food for fuel.
We dont eat these foods because they are not fit for consumption,

These alternative fuels need to be offered and then further developed,

The way some people around here (Wally lol) have it in their head is, " That there is No Hope" So we may as well throw in the towel and keep taking it in the ass cause sooner or later its going to feel good :nuts:
 

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We dont eat these foods because they are not fit for consumption
So, what does it do to food-corn prices when it becomes more profitable to grow fuel-corn? Drives the price of food up.

What does it do to livestock prices, when inedible-corn is being purchased for fuel, and it drives the prices of feeding livestock up? Drives the price of food up.

Corn based ethanol is just another one of your kommiefornian unicorns..
 
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