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To encourage healthful eating, Chicago school doesn't allow kids to bring lunches or certain snacks from home — and some parents, and many students, aren't fans of the policy



Fernando Dominguez cut the figure of a young revolutionary leader during a recent lunch period at his elementary school.

"Who thinks the lunch is not good enough?" the seventh-grader shouted to his lunch mates in Spanish and English.

Dozens of hands flew in the air and fellow students shouted along: "We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch!"

Fernando waved his hand over the crowd and asked a visiting reporter: "Do you see the situation?"

At his public school, Little Village Academy on Chicago's West Side, students are not allowed to pack lunches from home. Unless they have a medical excuse, they must eat the food served in the cafeteria.

Principal Elsa Carmona said her intention is to protect students from their own unhealthful food choices.

"Nutrition wise, it is better for the children to eat at the school," Carmona said. "It's about the nutrition and the excellent quality food that they are able to serve (in the lunchroom). It's milk versus a Coke. But with allergies and any medical issue, of course, we would make an exception."

Carmona said she created the policy six years ago after watching students bring "bottles of soda and flaming hot chips" on field trips for their lunch. Although she would not name any other schools that employ such practices, she said it was fairly common.

A Chicago Public Schools spokeswoman said she could not say how many schools prohibit packed lunches and that decision is left to the judgment of the principals.

"While there is no formal policy, principals use common sense judgment based on their individual school environments," Monique Bond wrote in an email. "In this case, this principal is encouraging the healthier choices and attempting to make an impact that extends beyond the classroom."

Any school that bans homemade lunches also puts more money in the pockets of the district's food provider, Chartwells-Thompson. The federal government pays the district for each free or reduced-price lunch taken, and the caterer receives a set fee from the district per lunch.

At Little Village, most students must take the meals served in the cafeteria or go hungry or both. During a recent visit to the school, dozens of students took the lunch but threw most of it in the garbage uneaten. Though CPS has improved the nutritional quality of its meals this year, it also has seen a drop-off in meal participation among students, many of whom say the food tastes bad.

"Some of the kids don't like the food they give at our school for lunch or breakfast," said Little Village parent Erica Martinez. "So it would be a good idea if they could bring their lunch so they could at least eat something."

"(My grandson) is really picky about what he eats," said Anna Torrez, who was picking up the boy from school. "I think they should be able to bring their lunch. Other schools let them. But at this school, they don't."

But parent Miguel Medina said he thinks the "no home lunch policy" is a good one. "The school food is very healthy," he said, "and when they bring the food from home, there is no control over the food."

At Claremont Academy Elementary School on the South Side, officials allow packed lunches but confiscate any snacks loaded with sugar or salt. (They often are returned after school.) Principal Rebecca Stinson said that though students may not like it, she has yet to hear a parent complain.

"The kids may have money or earn money and (buy junk food) without their parents' knowledge," Stinson said, adding that most parents expect that the school will look out for their children.

Such discussions over school lunches and healthy eating echo a larger national debate about the role government should play in individual food choices.

"This is such a fundamental infringement on parental responsibility," said J. Justin Wilson, a senior researcher at the Washington-based Center for Consumer Freedom, which is partially funded by the food industry.

"Would the school balk if the parent wanted to prepare a healthier meal?" Wilson said. "This is the perfect illustration of how the government's one-size-fits-all mandate on nutrition fails time and time again. Some parents may want to pack a gluten-free meal for a child, and others may have no problem with a child enjoying soda."

For many CPS parents, the idea of forbidding home-packed lunches would be unthinkable. If their children do not qualify for free or reduced-price meals, such a policy would require them to pay $2.25 a day for food they don't necessarily like.

"We don't spend anywhere close to that on my son's daily intake of a sandwich (lovingly cut into the shape of a Star Wars ship), Goldfish crackers and milk," education policy professor Diane Whitmore Schanzenbach wrote in an email. Her son attends Nettelhorst Elementary School in Lakeview. "Not only would mandatory school lunches worsen the dietary quality of most kids' lunches at Nettelhorst, but it would also cost more out of pocket to most parents! There is no chance the parents would stand for that."

Many Little Village students claim that, given the opportunity, they would make sound choices.

"They're afraid that we'll all bring in greasy food instead of healthy food and it won't be as good as what they give us at school," said student Yesenia Gutierrez. "It's really lame. If we could bring in our own lunches, everyone knows what they'd bring. For example, the vegetarians could bring in their own veggie food."

"I would bring a sandwich or a Subway and maybe a juice," said seventh-grader Ashley Valdez.

Second-grader Gerardo Ramos said, "I would bring a banana, orange and some grapes."

"I would bring a juice and like a sandwich," said fourth-grader Eric Sanchez.

"Sometimes I would bring the healthy stuff," second-grader Julian Ruiz said, "but sometimes I would bring Lunchables."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...nch-restrictions-041120110410,0,4567867.story
 

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$2.25 for a lunch... School lunches cost less than a dollar to prepare. Cause for the 'ban' is apparent.
 

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Then why remove soda and snack machines ? -if money was the only concern. This goes back to "government knows best"... from schools to McDonald's.
 

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Profit margin might not be as high. See, they can save us from the fat AND make money doing it. They are trying to look like heroes to both sides of the equation.
 

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My favorite lunch when i was a kid(not long ago) was peanut butter and banana and milk... nowadays you'd be expelled if you brought peanut butter into school.
 

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My favorite lunch when i was a kid(not long ago) was peanut butter and banana and milk... nowadays you'd be expelled if you brought peanut butter into school.
....back in the hey days, our school always made peanutbutter
cornflake cookies on Tuesdays, that was some gooood eatin.....:laughing:
 

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....back in the hey days, our school always made peanutbutter
cornflake cookies on Tuesdays, that was some gooood eatin.....:laughing:
Nowadays, some snifflynose little twirp with a peanut allergy and the inability to keep from putting peanuts in his mouth ruins it for all the rest. :spanked:


I say feed Peanutbutter and Jelly to all the kids everyday for a week and let the strongest survive. Allergy issues done.
 

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Another example of government employees who think the rest of us are too stupid to run our own lives. Vote the leftists out and return power to the people.
 

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Another example of government employees who think the rest of us are too stupid to run our own lives. Vote the leftists out and return power to the people.
:laughing: Which "people"? The people who want to limit other peoples ability to get married? The people who gutted the banking laws and crashed the system? The people who brought us the Patriot Act?

Sorry, Tex, but I don't want your "people" anymore than I want Obama's "people".

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:laughing: Which "people"? The people who want to limit other peoples ability to get married? The people who gutted the banking laws and crashed the system? The people who brought us the Patriot Act?

Sorry, Tex, but I don't want your "people" anymore than I want Obama's "people".

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The people I'm talking about are you and me. I think we can muddle through life without our Uncle telling us how to eat, sleep, breathe, and pretty much involve himself in everything we do.
 

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Another example of government employees who think the rest of us are too stupid to run our own lives. Vote the leftists out and return power to the people.
School boards are the people. The easiest political position to run for is school board, because most of the people who vote are people who's kids are in the school system. This is a perfect example of you get the government you deserve.

This whole idea that the people in government are some alien beings that get their power from some higher force is rediculous, especialy at the school board level. If you are not happy with your school board go to their meetings. (by law they are open to all and cannot do anything in secret) Or you could do that rare and dangerous thing.....actualy vote in a school board election. Try that first, instead of bitching and moaning about our out of control government.

Too bad most of you have never involved yourselves in your local politics....it would show you the truth about politics and government.
 

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School boards are the people. The easiest political position to run for is school board, because most of the people who vote are people who's kids are in the school system. This is a perfect example of you get the government you deserve.

This whole idea that the people in government are some alien beings that get their power from some higher force is rediculous, especialy at the school board level. If you are not happy with your school board go to their meetings. (by law they are open to all and cannot do anything in secret) Or you could do that rare and dangerous thing.....actualy vote in a school board election. Try that first, instead of bitching and moaning about our out of control government.

Too bad most of you have never involved yourselves in your local politics....it would show you the truth about politics and government.
When you vote, you have involved yourself in politics. You don' t have to run for office to have opinions. My opinion is that too many people who run for office believe that government can run our lives better than we can. The cumulative effect over many years is that we live in a small box with no room to make our own decisions. I simply don't like living that way, and back the movement for less government intrusion in our lives.
 

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When you vote, you have involved yourself in politics. You don' t have to run for office to have opinions. My opinion is that too many people who run for office believe that government can run our lives better than we can. The cumulative effect over many years is that we live in a small box with no room to make our own decisions. I simply don't like living that way, and back the movement for less government intrusion in our lives.
I am not saying that you have to run for office to have an oppinion, but if you did run for office you would understand that everybody in govenrment is one of the people. We live in a country where we get to choose who will be the government. And local politics is even more under your control than national politics, since your vote is one of a lot fewer allowed to vote.
Did this story happen in Texas??? No the people in Texas would not vote for people who would make such a move. This happened in Chicago. They voted for the people who made this policy. If they don't like the policy they will get rid of the school board and that new school board will make the changes.
This isn't a story of government run amok....it is a local story of self rule. That is what makes this country what it is, the ability of people from Chicago to do things the way they want it done regardless of what some asshole in California thinks. Should it be done in Texas???? Only you and your neighbors should decide that.
 

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When you vote, you have involved yourself in politics. You don' t have to run for office to have opinions. My opinion is that too many people who run for office believe that government can run our lives better than we can. The cumulative effect over many years is that we live in a small box with no room to make our own decisions. I simply don't like living that way, and back the movement for less government intrusion in our lives.
AMEN! :agree:
 

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I am not saying that you have to run for office to have an oppinion, but if you did run for office you would understand that everybody in govenrment is one of the people. We live in a country where we get to choose who will be the government. And local politics is even more under your control than national politics, since your vote is one of a lot fewer allowed to vote.
Did this story happen in Texas??? No the people in Texas would not vote for people who would make such a move. This happened in Chicago. They voted for the people who made this policy. If they don't like the policy they will get rid of the school board and that new school board will make the changes.
This isn't a story of government run amok....it is a local story of self rule. That is what makes this country what it is, the ability of people from Chicago to do things the way they want it done regardless of what some asshole in California thinks. Should it be done in Texas???? Only you and your neighbors should decide that.
We definitely agree on this. That's why I hate to see the Feds issuing most of the mandates - especially the ones that come from bureaucrats rather than congress (think EPA). It's much easier to undo them on a local or state level.
 
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