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Bad news for some fellow racers.
Maybe we can help by keeping our eyes open and calling if something
is seen.

http://www.world-challenge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=868


The Sorted Performance Transporter was stolen last night in the parking lot of a Hampton Inn Hotel in Michigan

The Silver Dodge Dually, 48 foot white three axle trailer, two Dodge SRT-4 WCTCs, one Honda 4-wheeler, and all of our spares were all stolen.

The trailer has SCCA Pro stickers and SPEED World-Challenge stickers on it as well as the paddock space size needed and car numbers 4 and 92.

If you see anything or can help in anyway, please contact Hal Brown at 540-449-1575.
  • Silver 2005 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 dually four door with black wheels.
  • White 48' Gooseneck Haulmark Edge triple axle trailer with polished aluminum wheels.
    It had Private Not For Hire near the front on both sides in black.
    SCCA Pro stickers and SPEED World-Challenge Stickers 4, 6, 92 as well as the paddock space, 20 x 50,
    on the rear door in black.
  • two Dodge SRT-4 WCTCs (#4 & #92)
  • one Honda 4-wheeler
  • all of their spares
Get in touch with Hal Brown at 540-449-1575.





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Hopefully they had a tracking device on the tractor and trailer.
 

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This is the third or fourth time I have heard of this happening and there are, sadly, only a few solutions.

First, if you are at a hotel chain the truck/trailer to a lamp post if they have one or any large object and use hardened chain with multiple locks. Cutting through hardened stuff is a bitch. Also, if they have camera's try to get near one.

When I go to the track I keep the little quad chained to the trailer tongue and I sleep inside the trailer with the car. I also ALWAYS have either a .45ACP or a .44 right next to me while I sleep and most know it. The law says while you are sleeping in a trailer you are the same as if at home.

It is truly sad to have to resort to such measures but the half wits at the track usually let anyone leave at 2 in the morning as long as they drive up and say they have to go.

The best solution is good security via camera's at a hotel and real personnel at the track who will not let you out and at one, Beaver Springs, in PA you will play hell trying to drive through their armco gates. They will let you out but you will be walking.

I hate hearing this crap - - it disgust me. I remember times when you could leave a car on an open trailer all night long. Every year at BG for the Vette get togethers there are cars and rigs stolen. Where are the police when they know this is a chronic problem in BG?

But what do you expect with the permissiveness that pervades our present culture?

Sorry to rant, I truly hope all is found and the criminals are caught and sent to the slammer - - - we don't do that enough.
 

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Hal Brown said:
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:00 am

I'll try to get more specific information out as it rolls in. The Hampton Inn was
in Monroe County, Michigan somewhere near Livonia. Team Manager Ken
Grammer was transporting the cars to Sky-Tek for work to be done prior to
the Toronto race. He came out of the hotel the following morning after
stopping for the night and everything was gone. I had just started my
vacation in NC so I'm getting information second and third hand until I can
get back home.

Please everyone keep your eyes open for SRT-4 stuff for sale. Pretty much
everything on the cars were very limited production pcs. that should stand
out if they were to be advertised for sale. ie 3R suspension, splitter and wing
mounts, RTR wings, one off stuff from Dodge Motorsports, etc.

Not only were most all of my assets stolen but my ability to make a living at
this was taken as well. My biggest concern is for Stan Wilson who is leading
the ROTY points battle and I now have nothing for him to drive.

Keep your eyes open and I will try to give you more specific details as I find
them out.

Hal Brown
Sorted Performance
Stan Wilson #92 said:
It was at a Hampton Inn at exit 15 off of I75 in Monroe. I just got this update
today. I hope it helps!!
_________________
Stan Wilson #92
Cripes. It gets worse.

Bad enough having to cope with something like this when you are at
the scene.

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Uh... seeems dumb.

No lojack? No GPS tracking?

Go to radio shack and buy a wireless infrared night vision camera, put it in the truck.

Then, in your hotel room you hook the reciever up to the TV and you get to watch your truck all night long.

Ask SheriffD2, I pointed a night vision camera on the DC Z all night long in Salt Lake City at the hotel.

I had a 27" security monitor right in the room. Totally investment is $200.

Certainly they can do SOMETHING other than park it and figure no one will steal it.

Inside job?:crazy:
 

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No lojack? No GPS tracking?

Go to radio shack and buy a wireless infrared night vision camera, put it in
the truck.

Then, in your hotel room you hook the reciever up to the TV and you get to
watch your truck all night long.

Ask SheriffD2, I pointed a night vision camera on the DC Z all night long in
Salt Lake City at the hotel.

I had a 27" security monitor right in the room. Totally investment is $200.
No word on preventative measures.

Does the IR Vision deal include some kind of alarm to wake the hotel occupant
when there is movement on screen or in the vehicle?

From the SCCA site, a post by the Mgr who was driving the truck
kgrammer said:
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject:

I can't add much more then Hal and Stan have posted. The Sheriff's
Deputy who responded said the guys were real pros. There was no
broken glass or signs of any kind of forced entry. He said thieves
will "profile" trucks with car haulers and follow them to hotels... wait a
while then in mere minutes take off with the whole rig.

What really upset me was that I passed on on three other hotels
because they didn't feel right (dimly lit parking, unsafe looking area,
etc.) and I selected the Hampton Inn because it was a newer hotel and
the parking lot was very well lit. There was even a light post right at
the front of the truck!

The Deputy basically said that if the thieves really want your stuff...
they'll get it. So the lesson here is to make sure your insurance policies
are current and provide enough protection for you. Oh... and I guess
use a toter setup so you can actually sleep with the rig!

So while logically I know I did all I could have done, that doesn't help
me feel any better for the Hal or Stan. The SRT-4 program was
progressing well and we were looking forward to Toronto.

But talk about a sick feeling... coming out of the hotel and seeing an
empty spot where you parked a dually and 48' trailer is NOT something
I wish on anyone... Then to have to make the phone call to Hal... who
was starting his vacation... that ranks as one of my worst days ever!

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Ken Grammer
Team Manager
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No news, but here is some more information

swilson said:
Thanks to all that are trying to help!! This is the biggest blow to our team and effort that could occur short of someone being hurt.

The entire rig was stolen from a Hampton Inn at exit 15 off of I75 in Monroe about 25 miles from Livonia, MI.

The cars have Dodge Motorsports engines in them with sealed turbos, oil pans, and valve covers per the rule book.

Each car has carbon fiber hood, deck lid, and 3R racing rear wings. The wheels are SSR Comp wheels in 17" size.

The Honda 4-wheeler was a brand new Honda Foreman red with no dirt on it as it was used as a paddock vehicle.

All of the glass on the cars is lexan, Moton shocks, Eibach springs, racetech racing seats, comp gauges for boost, water temp, and oil pressure.

Carbon fiber front splitters with Dodge Viper Comp Coupe adjusters.
NeonDan said:
the bodies will not be hard to miss as they are non-vinned body in whites
The truck, trailer, quad and two cars appear here


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No word on preventative measures.

Does the IR Vision deal include some kind of alarm to wake the hotel occupant
when there is movement on screen or in the vehicle?

From the SCCA site, a post by the Mgr who was driving the truck


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You put a shock sensor in the truck with a second 12 volt source with remote pager. Didn't their truck have an alarm? This whole thing seems pretty suspicious.
 

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Unfortunately, new developments have been reported.

From a post at SCCA Pro Racing this morning by the owner

Hal Brown said:
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:14 am
The truck was recovered somewhere near Detroit with minor damage
- the trailer was recovered somewhere else also near Detroit - burned
to a crisp. Contents of trailer were gone.

Please keep your eyes open for these cars and/or parts. Thanks!

Hal Brown
Sorted Performance
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How do you burn a 48' aluminum trailer exactly?

glad you asked ..what we did was...no I'm just kidding

I dont know, seems kinda planned waaaaaayyyy in advance.

but without knowing what kind of insurance payoff there is

it's tough to say ...and what will ever happen to those 2 shitboxes :surprised

no they were cool. and very $$$$..i've been drinkin again ,.sorry It wont

happen again till tomorrow .promise :D
 

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How do you burn a 48' aluminum trailer exactly? "Burned to a crisp..."

It's made of metal... no? And... what would be the motivation to burn it
exactly... ?
Haulmark trailers feature 3/4" plywood floors, paneled walls with vinyl
facing, fiberglass roof caps, bubble wrap insulation and other materials that
can be combustible in the right circumstances.

With the help of an accelerant, the unwanted contents and the trailer
could be coaxed into becoming a tidy pyre.

Motivation for doing so? To reduce the profile into an unrecognizable
mess and destroy any incriminating evidence. Forensics isn't what
C.S.I. purports it to be, but it is a science that has had its successes
in help to solve crimes.

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... but without knowing what kind of insurance payoff
Ever made a claim against an insurance policy? How'd it pay off for you?

Aside from the issues of making and collecting on a claim, as any racer will
tell you, there is untold sweat-equity that will never be made up by a cheque
from the agent.

And all the ingenuity that wasn't documented, photographed or remembered
is, phffffffttt - gone with the smoke in the wind.

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what i was saying is im not going to call foul

unless there was some big insurance payoff...

taking it apart and sell it as a flatbed would have been the senseable

thing to do. Burning it Insured it would be found (accelerating the claim)

nothing like a big smokey fire to bring the men in blue
and yes I've been paid on every claim i've ever made...

none of them fraudulent either i might add :buhbye:
 

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And what does this have to do with Corvettes?
The bad guys may target you next.

The point of the original post was to broaden the numbers of people on
the lookout for stolen equipment belonging to fellow racers in the hopes
that the victims might get some or all of their gear back intact and in
time to make the next event in the series, as well as possibly collect the
parties responsible.

No one in the Corvette community is likely to be unaware of the hazards of
car theft. If the good guys watch out for each other, regardless of what
your personal brand preference is, then there will be fewer bad guys out
there.

They don't care what you drive, they only care about what is in it for them.
Stop them and we'll all enjoy the hobby a bit more.

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How do you burn a 48' aluminum trailer exactly? "Burned to a crisp..."

It's made of metal... no? And... what would be the motivation to burn it exactly... ? :huh:


maybe dey was try'n ta smoke it:rolleyes:
they'll smoke just about anything these days:nuts:
 

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Hope they catch the morons:surprised
 

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The bad guys may target you next.

The point of the original post was to broaden the numbers of people on
the lookout for stolen equipment belonging to fellow racers in the hopes
that the victims might get some or all of their gear back intact and in
time to make the next event in the series, as well as possibly collect the
parties responsible.

No one in the Corvette community is likely to be unaware of the hazards of
car theft. If the good guys watch out for each other, regardless of what
your personal brand preference is, then there will be fewer bad guys out
there.

They don't care what you drive, they only care about what is in it for them.
Stop them and we'll all enjoy the hobby a bit more.

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There is a section for other makes, maybe this should be there.

The C3 technical section has turned into a chat room, I'd hate to see this section go completely off-topic too.
 
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