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I just recently had my OEM steering box in my 78 L-82 4 speed (65,000 miles today) rebuilt and blue printed by GTR1999 and all I can say is holy cow-an incredible difference. Gary is a true craftsman and just a great guy! Before the details, a little background:

I bought my car in 1983 with 25,000 miles on it from the original owner. The car was 100% stock and original and still is basically with the exception of a Holley 650 spreadbore 4175 Q-jet replacement (1985), 2.5 true duals/shorty headers, no emissions at all, roller rockers and a few other external items on the engine.

The suspension is 100% OEM design but upgraded where possible. Every item in the front suspension has been replaced or upgraded over the years (ball joints, tie rods, idler arm) poly upper and lower control arm bushings, poly sway bar mounting and endlink bushings on the OEM 1 1/8 F-41 sway bar, 550 springs 1 inch lower, rag joint (early 90's) and 255/45/17 ZR ultra high performance tires. The steering box, power steering control valve, and steering piston rod are all OEM (nothing leaks BTW).
I run Bilstein HD shocks in front and Bilstein Sports in the rear with my 360 monospring (installed in 1986) and heim joint competition strut rods. The car rides great, not harsh as one would expect. HOWEVER,

I just felt that the steering was not as tight as it should be. Enter GTR 1999: Gary and I spoke on and off for about 1.5 years on the phone and last week I decided to pull the box and drive it to Gary in New Haven CT (I am in RI). Gary met me on a SUNDAY morning at 9 AM and took the box apart in front of me and spent 2 hours talking about my box and what he can do-unbelieveable!!

Gary told me that the box was in very good shape and he could reuse my OEM gears (saved me $245). Over the past week he completely disassembled, cleaned every reusable part, installed a custom bushing to eliminate shaft play, new bearing balls, etc and send me pictures all along the way on the internet.

Here is the IMPORTANT part: He blueprints the box by assemblying the gears and other components so that there is virtually zero play in the box, including shaft end play. When the box was new from GM these steps were not done and are certainly not done with rebuilt standard boxes.

The result: installed the box today after picking it up from Gary yesterday. I changed nothing else so the before and after observations have to be all the blue printed rebuilt box. I had about 1 inch play in the steering wheel before the rebuild. There is zero play in the steering now, no corrections needed in hard cornering, everything feels tight, steering response is very quick, braking is dead straight! The car drives better than when it was new.

Lastly, if you have car with miles (I only had 65,000 miles on the box but remember these boxes were NOT blueprinted/hand adjusted from the factory) and all the other components are good, I would consider GTR1999's services. As for the rack and pinion crowd, I would say that my steering is almost as good now in my 33 year old car as my 2008 Chrysler 300 (rack and pinion), better than my 1994 Mustang GT (rack and pinion), almost as good as my 2001 Grand prix (rack and pinion). IT's really good now!

I would recommend folks having this service even on low miles cars like mine since it is a guaranteed improvement over the OEM GM box. I am not a fan of the rack and pinion aftermarket kits sold since I definitely don't like the universal joint between the steering shaft and box and am not quite sure why you would want to spend $700-800 on a borgenson box either when you can get the OEM system to perform as well. I just proved it! I would not waste my money on the off the shelf core rebuilt boxes either-the boxes are just slapped together in many cases with used components, greased, standard lash adjustment and they are done-waste of money.

Thanx GTR1999-great work Gary!
 

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Great another horror story thread about Gary.:laughing: That guy kicks ass doesn't he?:thumbsup:
 

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Great another horror story thread about Gary.:laughing: That guy kicks ass doesn't he?:thumbsup:
C'mon, don't the guys at Jiffy Lube do that too?

:smack

Just kidding, from what I've seen of his work on here, he is excellent.
 

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He is an artist, craftsman, great guy, and old school business man!!! He is expensive but does GREAT WORK!!!
Not expensive. Expensive is having to have it done over again after taking the "less expensive" approach and paying twice. Quality is always worth paying a little more for.:cheers:
 

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Not expensive. Expensive is having to have it done over again after taking the "less expensive" approach and paying twice. Quality is always worth paying a little more for.:cheers:
I agree 100%!!! Gary is really NOT expensive compared to the junk you can get from some and especially for a borgenson box or a rack and pinion setup (and the work involved and associated headaches) !!!
 

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i would like to add to the coments about gtr1999.i live in ireland and needed my differential and trailing arms rebuilt.i chanced upon gary on this forum.it wasnt practical to send the stuff to gary and i wanted to rebuild them myself.gary supplied all the parts i needed and the expertise and knowledge to help me rebuild the parts myself.i found him great to deal with.i started the diff with no experience and now thanx to gary i would feel very confident doing another rebuild.so thanx gary couldnt have done it without you
chris o leary ,cork city ireland
 

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Hi Guys
Wow Jeff that was some statement, thank you. I'm glad I was able to help you out and you now have the car where you want it.

Guys Jeff is a die hard car guy who certainly know how to turn a wrench and work on his car. He made some impressive improvements to his 78 and the car really sounds like a nice cruiser to enjoy. Interesting Jeff that your comparison to your other cars is close in operation, I guess the saginaw system isn't as bad as many believe once it's properly setup.

I'm not against the other systems I just think many times people are quick to jump to something else without correcting a good system and saving about $1000. As long as everyone is happy, drive them and enjoy them.

Chris O'Leary is another car nut, if you haven't seen his web site on his project check it out, he certainly is a skilled tech, my little bit of coaching on building a tuned posi was well within his skill level no question. I'm 1/2 Irish and would like to get to Ireland someday, if I do I'll be looking for some nice hotrods and vettes in Co Cork and that's no Blarney!!! LOL

Thanks to all, I'm glad to be of help when needed:thumbsup:
 

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:agree:

With the first post completely. Just installed one of Gary's blueprinted boxes last month, WOW what a difference. Steering is smoother and tighter, totally different car.

THANKS GARY!
 
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