man, keep this stuff comin' Gary! At this rate it's gonna be a busy winter :laughing:
I been working on cars for some pushing 50 years now, feels like it anyway....
it just seems to me these C3 brakes are much to much toooo sensitive a design for reliable automotive use, I fail to see any advantage to them vs most any modern design....even single piston floating, and yes, IMO i'ts that bad.....when the only cure I have found in 12 years is to essentially change everything about the original system design from HB down to O rings/no springs, eliminating that pesky switch block also....in order to get what for NOW is the longest lasting without troubles set of brakes I have EVER had on this car.....adding the HB, then rebuilding the front 1/2 for a bad brake hose locking up the LF wheel, it's been over a year now in faultless heavy use driving....
ANY system with this sort of record that I have been through in 12 years with it, is just plain piss poor design...period.....
the inherent reliability sux, much too sensitive to runout, you get one good high speed stop on any rotor, say 80 to zero on a good hot day, IMO, you can get enough heat to warp any rotor by 5 mils......5 mills is too close a tolerance for any street car, and you guys are shooting for typically less than 1/2 that.....
IMO, the cure is to change all the calipers to a floating design of any pistons that work, and get over with it.....
I have pulled HS stops with other larger heavier cars time and time again, and never had ANY troubles with the brakes, crap, even Linda's little Escort we smoked the brakes 6 weeks ago..but GOOD coming down some mountain road....they fine...no pulsing, no pulling, no leaking, no problem...car stops fine....
IMO, they can do it for an little cheeep Escort, there is something the **** RONG we still stuck with these brakes today.....
some time I just may get enough time and 'tude' to go find a junkyard cure for this whole system, once and for all.....front and rear....
This in NO WAY is intended to slam Gary or anyone else about their work to make it right, I feel I am stating solid engineering facts about the basic design....
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You can also get the countersink bit (for metal, 3/4" I think) at the hardware store. Worked great with the drill press.One last question... Without a milling machine how would you recommend a guy gets those countersinks done? You think the same shop would do that after turning the rotors?
After reading this thread, my DRUM brakes are looking real good to me now. I have changed the shoes ONCE in 15 years. The drums are the original from 64.:smack :smack :smack :smack
This 64 is a daily driver.