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According to a recently released German study, the supposed "environmentally friendly" compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFL's), are reported to have "cancer causing chemicals" that are sent out when the light is switched on, reports London's Daily Telegraph:

Their report advises that the bulbs should not be left on for extended periods, particularly near someone’s head, as they emit poisonous materials when switched on.

Peter Braun, who carried out the tests at the Berlin's Alab Laboratory, said: “For such carcinogenic substances it is important they are kept as far away as possible from the human environment.”

The bulbs are already widely used in the UK following EU direction to phase out traditional incandescent lighting by the end of this year.

But the German scientists claimed that several carcinogenic chemicals and toxins were released when the environmentally-friendly compact fluorescent lamps (CFLs) were switched on, including phenol, naphthalene and styrene.

As a result of the environmental movement's panic over global warming, Congress and the White House passed 2007 energy legislation that would begin the phasing out of the incandescent light bulb between 2012 and 2014. Environmentalists argued that incandescent lights use more electricity than CFL's, so Thomas Edison's greatest achievement was considered too "inefficient" and costly. However, lawmakers on both federal and state levels are waging a fight against the incandescent light bulb ban, as reported in an April 1 Washington Times editorial:

State lawmakers are fed up with the federal government micromanaging their lives. The South Carolina Senate is scheduled to strike back Tuesday with a bill that asserts the 10th Amendment right of the state to tell Washington to take a hike when it comes to the sale of incandescent light bulbs manufactured within state borders.

Unfortunately, repealing such a federal ban on incandescents will be tough getting passed by the Democratic controlled Senate and a probable veto from President Barack Obama:

Ideally, Congress would pass the light-bulb freedom measure introduced by Rep. Michele Bachmann, Minnesota Republican, which repeals the 2007 ban. Realistically, her measure would have a tough time getting past the veto pen of President Obama. That’s why states are looking at their own declarations of lighting freedom. It will only take one state’s defiance of federal overreach to break the system. Should Mr. Sandifer’s bill be the first enacted, there is no doubt the South Carolina will see a substantial increase in tourism next year - as drivers fill the trunks of their cars with mercury-free bulbs.

The new German study is not the first time CFL's have been cited as potentially harmful to humans and the rest of the environment. The Telegraph article also points out:

The latest report follows claims by Abraham Haim, a professor of biology at Haifa University in Israel, that the bulbs could result in higher breast cancer rates if used late at night.

He said that the bluer light that CFLs emitted closely mimicked daylight, disrupting the body's production of the hormone melatonin more than older-style filament bulbs, which cast a yellower light.

The Migraine Action Association has warned that they could trigger migraines and skin care specialists have claimed that their intense light could exacerbate a range of existing skin problems.

When it was revealed that the mercury inside the enviro-light bulb could produce a toxic environment from mercury fumes if the bulb ever broke, the EPA released a three page guide in January on how to properly clean up and dispose of a broken CFL bulb.

The steps include not only "shutting off the central forced air heating/air conditioning system" before cleaning up the debris but also different types of procedures for cleaning up different types of surfaces. In fact, the EPA even suggests after cleanup and disposal to "continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the H&AC system shut off, as practical, for several hours." However, it does not stop there. Expect to find yourself paying extra-close attention to future cleanups in the area the CFL bulb broke:

Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rugs: Air Out the Room During and After Vacuuming

The next several times you vacuum the rug or carpet, shut off the H&AC system if you have one, close the doors to other rooms, and open a window or door to the outside before vacuuming. Change the vacuum bag after each use in this area.

After vacuuming is completed, keep the H&AC system shut off and the window or door to the outside open, as practical, for several hours.

In fact, the EPA goes as far as discussing how not to break a CFL bulb to begin with, like:

Consider not using CFLs in lamps that can be easily knocked over, in unprotected light fixtures, or in lamps that are incompatible with the spiral or folded shape of many CFLs.

and...

Do not use CFL bulbs in locations where they can easily be broken, such as play spaces.

The safest option would be if the federal government not force American consumers to purchase CFL bulbs as a replacement to the "inefficient" incandescent light bulb but that would be too easy.
 

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:laughing: "Known" carcinogens:

A
A-alpha-C (2-Amino-9H-pyrido[2,3-b]indole)
Acetaldehyde
Acetamide
Acetochlor
2-Acetylaminofluorene
Acifluorfen
Acridine
Acrolein
Acrylamide
Acrylonitrile
Actinomycin D
Adriamycin (Doxorubicin hydrochloride)
AF-2;[2-(2-furyl)-3-(5-nitro-2-furyl)]acrylamide
Aflatoxins
Agaritine
Alachlor
Aldrin
Allyl chloride
Allyl glycidyl ether
Allyl isothiocyanate
Allyl isovalerate
Aluminium products
2-Aminoanthraquinone
p-Aminoazobenzene
o-Aminoazotoluene [solvent yellow 3]
4-Aminobiphenyl (4-aminodiphenyl)
3-Amino-9-ethylcarbazole hydrochloride
Amitrole
Ammonium dichromate
Analgesic mixtures containing phenacetin
Androgenic (anabolic) steroids
Aniline
ortho-Anisidine
ortho-Anisidine hydrochloride
para-anisidine
anthanthrene
Antimony oxide (antimony trioxide)
Aramite
Arsenic (inorganic arsenic compounds)
Asbestos
Auramine
Azaserine
Azathioprine
Azacitidine
Azobenzene
Azathioprine

B
Benz[a]anthracene
Benzene
Benzidine [and its salts]
Benzidine-based dyes
Benzofuran
Benzo[a]pyrene
Benzofluoranthene
Benzo[j]fluoranthene
Benzo[k]fluoranthene
Benzotrichloride
Benzyl chloride
Benzyl violet 4B
Beryllium and beryllium compounds
Bis(2-chloroethyl)ether
N,N-Bis(2-chloroethyl)-2- naphthylamine (Chlornapazine)
Bischloroethyl nitrosourea (BCNU) (Carmustine)
Bis(chloromethyl)ether and technical-grade chloromethyl methyl ether
Bitumens, extracts of steam-refined and air refined
Bleomycins
Bracken fern
Bromodichloromethane
2-bromoethyl ether
Bromoform
1,3-Butadiene
1,4-Butanediol dimethanesulfonate (Busulfan, myleran)
Butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA)
t-butyl methyl ether
beta-Butyrolactone

C
Cadmium and cadmium compounds
Caffeic acid
Captafol
Captan
Carbazole
Carbon tetrachloride
Carbon-black extracts
Carrageenan, degraded
Ceramic fibers (airborne particles of respirable size)
Chlorambucil
Chloramphenicol
Chlorbenzilat
Chlordane
Chlordecone (Kepone)
Chlordimeform
Chlorendic acid
Chlorinated Parrafins
alpha-Chlorinated toluenes
p-Chloroaniline
Chlormadinone aceate
Chlornaphazine[n,n-bis(2-chloroethyl)-2-naphthylamine]
Chlorodibromomethane
Chloroethane (ethyl chloride)
1-(2-Chloroethyl)-3-cyclohexyl-1-nitrosourea (CCNU) (Lomustine)
1-(2-Chloroethyl)-3-(4-methylcyclohexyl)-1-nitrosourea (Methyl-CCNU)
Chloroform
Chloromethyl methyl ether
3-Chloro-2-methylpropene
4-Chloro-ortho-phenylenediamine
p-Chloro-o-toluidine
Chlorophenols
Chlorophenoxy herbicides
Chloroprene
Chlorothalonil
Chlorozotocin
Chromium
Chromium (hexavalent compounds)
Chrysene
C.I. Acid Red 114
C.I. Basic Red 9 monohydrochloride
Ciclosporin (Cyclosporin A; Cyclosporine)
Cinnamyl anthranilate
Cisplatin
Citrus Red No. 2
Clofibrate
Coal gasification products
Coal-tars and pitches
Cobalt metal powder
Cobalt (II) chloride
Cobalt [II] oxide
Conjugated estrogens
Copper acetoarsenite
Creosotes
Crystal violet
para-Cresidine
Cupferron
Cycasin
Cyclamates
1,4-cyclohexadiene
Cyclophosphamide

D
D&C Orange No. 17
D & C Red No. 8
D&C Red No. 9
D&C Red No. 19
Dacarbazine
Daminozide
Dantron (Chrysazin; 1,8-Dihydroxyanthraquinone)
Dapsone
Daunomycin
DCM
DDD (Dichlorodiphenyldichloroethane)
DDE (Dichlorodiphenyldichloroethylene)
DDT (Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane)
DDVP (Dichlorvos)
Decabromodiphenyl ether
N,N'-Diacetylbenzidine
2,4-Diaminoanisole
2,4-Diaminoanisole sulfate
4,4'-Diaminodiphenyl ether (4,4'-Oxydianiline)
2,4-Diaminotoluene
Diaminotoluene (mixed)
Dibenz[a,h]acridine
Dibenz[a,j]acridine
Dibenz[a,h]anthracene
7H-Dibenzo[c,g]carbazole
Dibenzo[a,e]pyrene
Dibenzo[a,h]pyrene
Dibenzo[a,i]pyrene
Dibenzo[a,l]pyrene
1,2-Dibromo-3-chloropropane (DBCP)
1,2-Dibromoethane
2,3-Dibromo-1-propanol
p-Dichlorobenzene
3,3'-Dichlorobenzidine
3,3'-Dichlorobenzidine dihydrochloride
1,4-Dichloro-2-butene
3,3'-Dichloro-4,4'-diaminodiphenyl ether
1,1-Dichloroethane
1,2-Dichloroethane
Dichloromethane (Methylene chloride)
1,3-Dichloropropene
Dieldrin
Dienestrol
Diepoxybutane
Di(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate
1,2-Diethylhydrazine
Diethyl sulfate
DES, Diethylstilbestrol
Diglycidyl resorcinol ether (DGRE)
Dihydrosafrole
Diisopropyl sulfate
3,3'-Dimethoxybenzidine (ortho-Dianisidine)
3,3'-Dimethoxybenzidine dihydrochloride (ortho-dianisidine dihydrochloride)
para-Dimethylaminoazobenzene
4-Dimethylaminoazobenzene
trans-2-[(Dimethylamino)methylimino]-5-[2-(5-nitro-2-furyl)vinyl]-1,3,4- oxadiazole
7,12-Dimethylbenz(a)anthracene
3,3'-Dimethylbenzidine (ortho-Tolidine)
3,3'-Dimethylbenzidine dihydrochloride
Dimethylcarbamoyl chloride
1,1-Dimethylhydrazine (UDMH)
1,2-Dimethylhydrazine
Dimethyl sulfate
Dimethylvinyl Chloride
2,4-dinitrofluorobenzene
1,6-Dinitropyrene
1,8-Dinitropyrene
2,4-Dinitrotoluene
2,6-Dinitrotoluene
1,4-Dioxane
1,2-diphenylhydrazine (hydrazobenzene)
Diphenylhydantoin (Phenytoin)
Diphenylhydantoin (Phenytoin), sodium salt
Direct Black 38
Direct Blue 6
Direct Brown 95
Disperse Blue 1

E
Epichlorohydrin
Erionite
Estradiol 17B
Estrogens (not conjugated)

* Estradiol-17
* Estrone
* Ethinylestradiol
* Mestranol

Estrone
Ethinylestradiol
Ethyl acrylate
Ethyl methanesulfonate
Ethyl-4,4'-dichlorobenzilate
Ethylene dibromide (1,2-dibromoethane)
Ethylene dichloride (1,2-dichloroethane)
N-Ethyl-N-nitrosourea
Ethylene oxide
Ethylene thiourea
Ethyleneimine

F
Folpet
Formaldehyde (gas or aqueous solution)
2-(2-Formylhydrazino)-4-(5-nitro-2-furyl) thiazole
Furan
Furazolidone
Furmecyclox
Fusarin C

G
Glasswool fibers (airborne particles of respirable size)
Glu-P-1 (2-Amino-6-methyldipyrido[1,2- a:3', 2'-d]imidazole)
Glu-P-2 (2-Aminodipyrido[1,2-a:3',2'-d]imidazole)
Glycidaldehyde
Glycidol
Griseofulvin
Gyromitrin (Acetaldehyde methylformylhydrazone)

H
HC Blue 1
Heptachlor
Heptachlor epoxide
Hexachlorobenzene
Hexachlorocyclohexanes
Hexachlorodibenzodioxin
Hexachloroethane
Hexamethylphosphoramide
Hydrazine
Hydrazine dihydrobromide
Hydrazine sulfate
Hydroquinone
Hydroxybutyric acid lactone

I
Indeno [1,2,3-cd]pyrene
Iodomethane
IQ (2-Amino-3-methylimidazo[4,5-f]quinoline)
Iron dextran complex
Isoprene
Isosafrole

K
Kepone (Chlordecone)

L
Lactofen
Lasiocarpine
Lead
Lead acetate
Lead phosphate
Lindane and other hexachlorocyclohexane isomers

M
Mancozeb
Maneb
Me-A-alpha-C (2-Amino-3-methyl-9H-pyrido[2, 3-b]indole)
Medroxyprogesterone acetate
MeIQ(2-Amino-3,4-dimethylimidazo[4,5-f]quinoline)
MeIQx(2-Amino-3,8-dimethylimidazo[4,5-f]quinoxaline)
Melphalan
Merphalan
Mestranol
2-Methylaziridine (Propyleneimine)
Methylazoxymethanol
Methylazoxymethanol acetate
3-Methylcholanthrene
5-Methylchrysene
4,4'-Methylene bis(2-chloroaniline) (MOCA)
4,4'-Methylene bis(N,N-dimethyl)benzenamine
4,4'-Methylene bis(2-methylaniline)
4,4'-Methylenedianiline
4,4'-Methylenedianiline dihydrochloride
Methylhydrazine and its salts
Methyl chloromethyl ether
Methyl-CCNU
Methyl iodide
Methyl methanesulfonate
2-Methyl-1-nitroanthraquinone
N-Methyl-N'-nitro-N-nitrosoguanidine (MNNG)
N-Methyl-N-nitrosourea
N-Methylolacrylamide
Methylthiouracil
Metiram
Metronidazole
Michler's ketone
Mineral Oils, untreated and mildly treated
Mirex
Mitomycin C
MOPP
Monocrotaline
5-(Morpholinomethyl)-3-[(5-nitro-fufurylidene)-amino]-2-oxazolidinone
Mustard gas

N
Nafenopin
1-Naphthylamine
2-Naphthylamine
3-Naphthylamine
Nickel and certain nickel compounds
Nickel carbonyl
Nickel subsulfide
Niridazole
Nitrilotriacetic acid
Nitrilotriacetic acid, trisodium salt monohydrate
5-Nitroacenaphthene
5-Nitro-o-anisidine
o-Nitroanisole
4-Nitrobiphenyl
6-Nitrochrysene
Nitrofen
2-Nitrofluorene
1-[(5-Nitrofurfurylidene)amino]-2-imidazollidinone
1-[(5-Nitrofurfurylidene)-N-[4-(5-Nitro-2-furyl)-2 thiazolyl]acetamide
Nitrogen mustard (Mechlorethamine)
Nitrogen mustard hydrochloride (Mechlorethamine hydrochloride)
Nitrogen mustard N-oxide
Nitrogen mustard N-oxide hydrochloride
2-Nitropropane
4-Nitropyrene
N-Nitrosodi-n-butylamine
N-Nitrosodiethanolamine
N-Nitrosodiethylamine
N-Nitrosodimethylamine
p-Nitrosodiphenylamine
N-Nitrosodiphenylamine
N-Nitrosodi-n-propylamine
N-Nitroso-N-ethylurea
3-(N-Nitrosomethylamino)propionitrile
4-(N-Nitrosomethylamino)-1-(3-pyridyl)-1-butanone (NNK)
N-Nitrosomethylethylamine
N-Nitroso-N-methylurea
N-Nitroso-N-methylurethane
N-Nitrosomethylvinylamine
N-Nitrosomorpholine
N-Nitrosonornicotine
N-Nitrosopiperidine
N-Nitrosopyrrolidine
N-Nitrososarcosine
Norethisterone (Norethindrone)

O
Ochratoxin A
Oestrogen, nonstreoidal
Oestrogen, steroidal
Oil Orange SS
4,4'-Oxydianiline
Oxadiazon
Oxymetholone
Oxazepam

P
Panfuran S
Pentachlorophenol
Perylene
Phenacetin
Phenazopyridine hydrochloride
Phenesterin
Phenobarbital
Phenolphthalein
Phenoxybenzamine
Phenoxybenzamine hydrochloride
1,2-phenylenediamine
Phenyl glycidyl ether
Phenylhydrazine and its salts
o-Phenylphenate, sodium
2-phenylphenol
Phenytoin
PhiP(2-Amino-1-methyl-6-phenylimidazol[4,5-b]pyridine)
Polybrominated biphenyls
Polychlorinated biphenyls
Polychlorinated dibenzo-p-dioxins
Polychlorinated dibenzofurans
Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons
Polygeenan
Ponceau MX
Ponceau 3R
Potassium bromate
Potassium dichromate
Procarbazine
Procarbazine hydrochloride
Procymidone
Progesterone
Progestins
1,3-Propane sultone
Progargite
beta-Propiolactone
Propylene oxide
Propylthiouracil
Pyridinium chlorochromate

R
Radionuclides
Radon
Reserpine
Residual (heavy) fuel oils
Rhodamine 101

S
Safrole
Selenium sulfide
Shale-oils
Silica, crystalline (airborne particles of respirable size)
Sodium chromate tetrahydrate
Sodium dichromate
Sodium hexafluoroarsenate(V)
Sodium ortho-phenylphenate
Sterigmatocystin
Streptozotocin
Strontium chromate
Styrene
Styrene oxide
Sulfallate
Sulfur trioxide
Sulphur trioxide N,N-dimethylformamide complex

T
Talc containing asbestiform fibers
Terrazole
Testosterone
2,3,7,8-Tetrachlorodibenzo-para-dioxin (TCDD)
1,1,2,2-Tetrachloroethane
Tetrachloroethylene (Perchloroethylene)
3,3',5,5'-tetramethylbenzidine
Tetranitromethane
Thioacetamide
4,4'-Thiodianiline
Thiourea
Thorium carbonate
Thorium dioxide
Tobacco, oral use of smokeless products
Tobacco smoke
Toluene diisocyanate
p-toluenesulphonic acid
ortho-Toluidine
ortho-Toluidine hydrochloride
para-Toluidine
Toxaphene
Treosulfan (Tresoluphan)
Trichlormethine (Trimustine hydrochloride)
Trichloroethylene
2,4,6-Trichlorophenol
1,2,3-Trichloropropane
alpha,alpha,alpha-trichlorotoluene
Trimethyl phosphite
Triphenyltin acetate
Triphenyltin hydroxide
Tris(aziridinyl)-para-benzoquinone (Triaziquone)
Tris(1-aziridinyl)phosphine sulfide (Thiotepa)
Tris(2-chloroethyl) phosphate
Tris(2,3-dibromopropyl)phosphate
Trp-P-1 (Tryptophan-P-1) (3-Amino-1,4-dimethyl-5H-pyrido[4,3-b]indole)
Trp-P-2 (Tryptophan-P-2) (3-Amino-1-methyl-5H-pyrido[4,3-b]indole)
Trypan blue

U
Uracil mustard
Urethane (Ethyl carbamate)
V
Vinyl bromide
Vinyl chloride
4-Vinyl-1-cyclohexene diepoxide (Vinyl cyclohexene dioxide)
n-vinyl pyrollidone
Vinyl pivalate
Vinyl trichloride (1,1,2-Trichloroethane)

X
2,6-Xylidine (2,6-Dimethylaniline)

Z
Zineb


It's not the light bulbs that will get ya.. although the fascist law banning incandescent bulbs is still pretty stupid. The new LED bulbs are in the pipeline, but will probably get banned here..
 

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I got alotta led bulbs.


Alot has changed in CLF tech just within the last two years, let alone the last 5 or 7.

My only problem with the cfls and the mandate is the fact that none are made in the usa.
None.

That's ****in bull ****.
 

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My only problem with the cfls and the mandate is the fact that none are made in the usa.
None.

That's ****in bull ****.
That's the whole idea.. you can't drag the world up to our standards, this country must be dragged down to the "Average" living standard.. and the statist party (Republicrats) are the very ones doing it. It's not the liberals, it's not the conservatives, it's the progressives in both halves of the party.

God, anyone can step back and take a look and know what is happening..
 

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:laughing: "Known" carcinogens:

A
A-alpha-C (2-Amino-9H-pyrido[2,3-b]indole)
Acetaldehyde
Acetamide
Acetochlor
2-Acetylaminofluorene
Acifluorfen
Acridine
Acrolein
Acrylamide
Acrylonitrile
Actinomycin D
Adriamycin (Doxorubicin hydrochloride)
AF-2;[2-(2-furyl)-3-(5-nitro-2-furyl)]acrylamide
Aflatoxins
Agaritine
Alachlor
Aldrin
Allyl chloride
Allyl glycidyl ether
Allyl isothiocyanate
Allyl isovalerate
Aluminium products
2-Aminoanthraquinone
p-Aminoazobenzene
o-Aminoazotoluene [solvent yellow 3]
4-Aminobiphenyl (4-aminodiphenyl)
3-Amino-9-ethylcarbazole hydrochloride
Amitrole
Ammonium dichromate
Analgesic mixtures containing phenacetin
Androgenic (anabolic) steroids
Aniline
ortho-Anisidine
ortho-Anisidine hydrochloride
para-anisidine
anthanthrene
Antimony oxide (antimony trioxide)
Aramite
Arsenic (inorganic arsenic compounds)
Asbestos
Auramine
Azaserine
Azathioprine
Azacitidine
Azobenzene
Azathioprine

B
Benz[a]anthracene
Benzene
Benzidine [and its salts]
Benzidine-based dyes
Benzofuran
Benzo[a]pyrene
Benzofluoranthene
Benzo[j]fluoranthene
Benzo[k]fluoranthene
Benzotrichloride
Benzyl chloride
Benzyl violet 4B
Beryllium and beryllium compounds
Bis(2-chloroethyl)ether
N,N-Bis(2-chloroethyl)-2- naphthylamine (Chlornapazine)
Bischloroethyl nitrosourea (BCNU) (Carmustine)
Bis(chloromethyl)ether and technical-grade chloromethyl methyl ether
Bitumens, extracts of steam-refined and air refined
Bleomycins
Bracken fern
Bromodichloromethane
2-bromoethyl ether
Bromoform
1,3-Butadiene
1,4-Butanediol dimethanesulfonate (Busulfan, myleran)
Butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA)
t-butyl methyl ether
beta-Butyrolactone

C
Cadmium and cadmium compounds
Caffeic acid
Captafol
Captan
Carbazole
Carbon tetrachloride
Carbon-black extracts
Carrageenan, degraded
Ceramic fibers (airborne particles of respirable size)
Chlorambucil
Chloramphenicol
Chlorbenzilat
Chlordane
Chlordecone (Kepone)
Chlordimeform
Chlorendic acid
Chlorinated Parrafins
alpha-Chlorinated toluenes
p-Chloroaniline
Chlormadinone aceate
Chlornaphazine[n,n-bis(2-chloroethyl)-2-naphthylamine]
Chlorodibromomethane
Chloroethane (ethyl chloride)
1-(2-Chloroethyl)-3-cyclohexyl-1-nitrosourea (CCNU) (Lomustine)
1-(2-Chloroethyl)-3-(4-methylcyclohexyl)-1-nitrosourea (Methyl-CCNU)
Chloroform
Chloromethyl methyl ether
3-Chloro-2-methylpropene
4-Chloro-ortho-phenylenediamine
p-Chloro-o-toluidine
Chlorophenols
Chlorophenoxy herbicides
Chloroprene
Chlorothalonil
Chlorozotocin
Chromium
Chromium (hexavalent compounds)
Chrysene
C.I. Acid Red 114
C.I. Basic Red 9 monohydrochloride
Ciclosporin (Cyclosporin A; Cyclosporine)
Cinnamyl anthranilate
Cisplatin
Citrus Red No. 2
Clofibrate
Coal gasification products
Coal-tars and pitches
Cobalt metal powder
Cobalt (II) chloride
Cobalt [II] oxide
Conjugated estrogens
Copper acetoarsenite
Creosotes
Crystal violet
para-Cresidine
Cupferron
Cycasin
Cyclamates
1,4-cyclohexadiene
Cyclophosphamide

D
D&C Orange No. 17
D & C Red No. 8
D&C Red No. 9
D&C Red No. 19
Dacarbazine
Daminozide
Dantron (Chrysazin; 1,8-Dihydroxyanthraquinone)
Dapsone
Daunomycin
DCM
DDD (Dichlorodiphenyldichloroethane)
DDE (Dichlorodiphenyldichloroethylene)
DDT (Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane)
DDVP (Dichlorvos)
Decabromodiphenyl ether
N,N'-Diacetylbenzidine
2,4-Diaminoanisole
2,4-Diaminoanisole sulfate
4,4'-Diaminodiphenyl ether (4,4'-Oxydianiline)
2,4-Diaminotoluene
Diaminotoluene (mixed)
Dibenz[a,h]acridine
Dibenz[a,j]acridine
Dibenz[a,h]anthracene
7H-Dibenzo[c,g]carbazole
Dibenzo[a,e]pyrene
Dibenzo[a,h]pyrene
Dibenzo[a,i]pyrene
Dibenzo[a,l]pyrene
1,2-Dibromo-3-chloropropane (DBCP)
1,2-Dibromoethane
2,3-Dibromo-1-propanol
p-Dichlorobenzene
3,3'-Dichlorobenzidine
3,3'-Dichlorobenzidine dihydrochloride
1,4-Dichloro-2-butene
3,3'-Dichloro-4,4'-diaminodiphenyl ether
1,1-Dichloroethane
1,2-Dichloroethane
Dichloromethane (Methylene chloride)
1,3-Dichloropropene
Dieldrin
Dienestrol
Diepoxybutane
Di(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate
1,2-Diethylhydrazine
Diethyl sulfate
DES, Diethylstilbestrol
Diglycidyl resorcinol ether (DGRE)
Dihydrosafrole
Diisopropyl sulfate
3,3'-Dimethoxybenzidine (ortho-Dianisidine)
3,3'-Dimethoxybenzidine dihydrochloride (ortho-dianisidine dihydrochloride)
para-Dimethylaminoazobenzene
4-Dimethylaminoazobenzene
trans-2-[(Dimethylamino)methylimino]-5-[2-(5-nitro-2-furyl)vinyl]-1,3,4- oxadiazole
7,12-Dimethylbenz(a)anthracene
3,3'-Dimethylbenzidine (ortho-Tolidine)
3,3'-Dimethylbenzidine dihydrochloride
Dimethylcarbamoyl chloride
1,1-Dimethylhydrazine (UDMH)
1,2-Dimethylhydrazine
Dimethyl sulfate
Dimethylvinyl Chloride
2,4-dinitrofluorobenzene
1,6-Dinitropyrene
1,8-Dinitropyrene
2,4-Dinitrotoluene
2,6-Dinitrotoluene
1,4-Dioxane
1,2-diphenylhydrazine (hydrazobenzene)
Diphenylhydantoin (Phenytoin)
Diphenylhydantoin (Phenytoin), sodium salt
Direct Black 38
Direct Blue 6
Direct Brown 95
Disperse Blue 1

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Epichlorohydrin
Erionite
Estradiol 17B
Estrogens (not conjugated)

* Estradiol-17
* Estrone
* Ethinylestradiol
* Mestranol

Estrone
Ethinylestradiol
Ethyl acrylate
Ethyl methanesulfonate
Ethyl-4,4'-dichlorobenzilate
Ethylene dibromide (1,2-dibromoethane)
Ethylene dichloride (1,2-dichloroethane)
N-Ethyl-N-nitrosourea
Ethylene oxide
Ethylene thiourea
Ethyleneimine

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Folpet
Formaldehyde (gas or aqueous solution)
2-(2-Formylhydrazino)-4-(5-nitro-2-furyl) thiazole
Furan
Furazolidone
Furmecyclox
Fusarin C

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Glasswool fibers (airborne particles of respirable size)
Glu-P-1 (2-Amino-6-methyldipyrido[1,2- a:3', 2'-d]imidazole)
Glu-P-2 (2-Aminodipyrido[1,2-a:3',2'-d]imidazole)
Glycidaldehyde
Glycidol
Griseofulvin
Gyromitrin (Acetaldehyde methylformylhydrazone)

H
HC Blue 1
Heptachlor
Heptachlor epoxide
Hexachlorobenzene
Hexachlorocyclohexanes
Hexachlorodibenzodioxin
Hexachloroethane
Hexamethylphosphoramide
Hydrazine
Hydrazine dihydrobromide
Hydrazine sulfate
Hydroquinone
Hydroxybutyric acid lactone

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Indeno [1,2,3-cd]pyrene
Iodomethane
IQ (2-Amino-3-methylimidazo[4,5-f]quinoline)
Iron dextran complex
Isoprene
Isosafrole

K
Kepone (Chlordecone)

L
Lactofen
Lasiocarpine
Lead
Lead acetate
Lead phosphate
Lindane and other hexachlorocyclohexane isomers

M
Mancozeb
Maneb
Me-A-alpha-C (2-Amino-3-methyl-9H-pyrido[2, 3-b]indole)
Medroxyprogesterone acetate
MeIQ(2-Amino-3,4-dimethylimidazo[4,5-f]quinoline)
MeIQx(2-Amino-3,8-dimethylimidazo[4,5-f]quinoxaline)
Melphalan
Merphalan
Mestranol
2-Methylaziridine (Propyleneimine)
Methylazoxymethanol
Methylazoxymethanol acetate
3-Methylcholanthrene
5-Methylchrysene
4,4'-Methylene bis(2-chloroaniline) (MOCA)
4,4'-Methylene bis(N,N-dimethyl)benzenamine
4,4'-Methylene bis(2-methylaniline)
4,4'-Methylenedianiline
4,4'-Methylenedianiline dihydrochloride
Methylhydrazine and its salts
Methyl chloromethyl ether
Methyl-CCNU
Methyl iodide
Methyl methanesulfonate
2-Methyl-1-nitroanthraquinone
N-Methyl-N'-nitro-N-nitrosoguanidine (MNNG)
N-Methyl-N-nitrosourea
N-Methylolacrylamide
Methylthiouracil
Metiram
Metronidazole
Michler's ketone
Mineral Oils, untreated and mildly treated
Mirex
Mitomycin C
MOPP
Monocrotaline
5-(Morpholinomethyl)-3-[(5-nitro-fufurylidene)-amino]-2-oxazolidinone
Mustard gas

N
Nafenopin
1-Naphthylamine
2-Naphthylamine
3-Naphthylamine
Nickel and certain nickel compounds
Nickel carbonyl
Nickel subsulfide
Niridazole
Nitrilotriacetic acid
Nitrilotriacetic acid, trisodium salt monohydrate
5-Nitroacenaphthene
5-Nitro-o-anisidine
o-Nitroanisole
4-Nitrobiphenyl
6-Nitrochrysene
Nitrofen
2-Nitrofluorene
1-[(5-Nitrofurfurylidene)amino]-2-imidazollidinone
1-[(5-Nitrofurfurylidene)-N-[4-(5-Nitro-2-furyl)-2 thiazolyl]acetamide
Nitrogen mustard (Mechlorethamine)
Nitrogen mustard hydrochloride (Mechlorethamine hydrochloride)
Nitrogen mustard N-oxide
Nitrogen mustard N-oxide hydrochloride
2-Nitropropane
4-Nitropyrene
N-Nitrosodi-n-butylamine
N-Nitrosodiethanolamine
N-Nitrosodiethylamine
N-Nitrosodimethylamine
p-Nitrosodiphenylamine
N-Nitrosodiphenylamine
N-Nitrosodi-n-propylamine
N-Nitroso-N-ethylurea
3-(N-Nitrosomethylamino)propionitrile
4-(N-Nitrosomethylamino)-1-(3-pyridyl)-1-butanone (NNK)
N-Nitrosomethylethylamine
N-Nitroso-N-methylurea
N-Nitroso-N-methylurethane
N-Nitrosomethylvinylamine
N-Nitrosomorpholine
N-Nitrosonornicotine
N-Nitrosopiperidine
N-Nitrosopyrrolidine
N-Nitrososarcosine
Norethisterone (Norethindrone)

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Ochratoxin A
Oestrogen, nonstreoidal
Oestrogen, steroidal
Oil Orange SS
4,4'-Oxydianiline
Oxadiazon
Oxymetholone
Oxazepam

P
Panfuran S
Pentachlorophenol
Perylene
Phenacetin
Phenazopyridine hydrochloride
Phenesterin
Phenobarbital
Phenolphthalein
Phenoxybenzamine
Phenoxybenzamine hydrochloride
1,2-phenylenediamine
Phenyl glycidyl ether
Phenylhydrazine and its salts
o-Phenylphenate, sodium
2-phenylphenol
Phenytoin
PhiP(2-Amino-1-methyl-6-phenylimidazol[4,5-b]pyridine)
Polybrominated biphenyls
Polychlorinated biphenyls
Polychlorinated dibenzo-p-dioxins
Polychlorinated dibenzofurans
Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons
Polygeenan
Ponceau MX
Ponceau 3R
Potassium bromate
Potassium dichromate
Procarbazine
Procarbazine hydrochloride
Procymidone
Progesterone
Progestins
1,3-Propane sultone
Progargite
beta-Propiolactone
Propylene oxide
Propylthiouracil
Pyridinium chlorochromate

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Radionuclides
Radon
Reserpine
Residual (heavy) fuel oils
Rhodamine 101

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Safrole
Selenium sulfide
Shale-oils
Silica, crystalline (airborne particles of respirable size)
Sodium chromate tetrahydrate
Sodium dichromate
Sodium hexafluoroarsenate(V)
Sodium ortho-phenylphenate
Sterigmatocystin
Streptozotocin
Strontium chromate
Styrene
Styrene oxide
Sulfallate
Sulfur trioxide
Sulphur trioxide N,N-dimethylformamide complex

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Talc containing asbestiform fibers
Terrazole
Testosterone
2,3,7,8-Tetrachlorodibenzo-para-dioxin (TCDD)
1,1,2,2-Tetrachloroethane
Tetrachloroethylene (Perchloroethylene)
3,3',5,5'-tetramethylbenzidine
Tetranitromethane
Thioacetamide
4,4'-Thiodianiline
Thiourea
Thorium carbonate
Thorium dioxide
Tobacco, oral use of smokeless products
Tobacco smoke
Toluene diisocyanate
p-toluenesulphonic acid
ortho-Toluidine
ortho-Toluidine hydrochloride
para-Toluidine
Toxaphene
Treosulfan (Tresoluphan)
Trichlormethine (Trimustine hydrochloride)
Trichloroethylene
2,4,6-Trichlorophenol
1,2,3-Trichloropropane
alpha,alpha,alpha-trichlorotoluene
Trimethyl phosphite
Triphenyltin acetate
Triphenyltin hydroxide
Tris(aziridinyl)-para-benzoquinone (Triaziquone)
Tris(1-aziridinyl)phosphine sulfide (Thiotepa)
Tris(2-chloroethyl) phosphate
Tris(2,3-dibromopropyl)phosphate
Trp-P-1 (Tryptophan-P-1) (3-Amino-1,4-dimethyl-5H-pyrido[4,3-b]indole)
Trp-P-2 (Tryptophan-P-2) (3-Amino-1-methyl-5H-pyrido[4,3-b]indole)
Trypan blue

U
Uracil mustard
Urethane (Ethyl carbamate)
V
Vinyl bromide
Vinyl chloride
4-Vinyl-1-cyclohexene diepoxide (Vinyl cyclohexene dioxide)
n-vinyl pyrollidone
Vinyl pivalate
Vinyl trichloride (1,1,2-Trichloroethane)

X
2,6-Xylidine (2,6-Dimethylaniline)

Z
Zineb


It's not the light bulbs that will get ya.. although the fascist law banning incandescent bulbs is still pretty stupid. The new LED bulbs are in the pipeline, but will probably get banned here..


Yep, I quoted it...:rolling::rolling:
 

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That's the whole idea.. you can't drag the world up to our standards, this country must be dragged down to the "Average" living standard.. and the statist party (Republicrats) are the very ones doing it. It's not the liberals, it's not the conservatives, it's the progressives in both halves of the party.

God, anyone can step back and take a look and know what is happening..
 

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:laughing: "Known" carcinogens:

It's not the light bulbs that will get ya.. although the fascist law banning incandescent bulbs is still pretty stupid. The new LED bulbs are in the pipeline, but will probably get banned here..
The list would have been smaller if it was "known things that are not carcinogens"

LED bulbs are already around up here... unless you mean some new generation of them.. the current ones suck thou supposedly they are better outdoors because bugs cant see the light.
 

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The list would have been smaller if it was "known things that are carcinogens"

LED bulbs are already around up here... unless you mean some new generation of them.. the current ones suck thou supposedly they are better outdoors because bugs cant see the light.
If you believe that I've got some real nice ocean-front property to sell you...:laughing:

But no, we are talking about CFL's, LED's are completely different and faaaaaaaar more efficient than CFL's. They also shouldn't need to be changed for about 20 years which makes them great for stairway lights.
 

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If you believe that I've got some real nice ocean-front property to sell you...:laughing:

But no, we are talking about CFL's, LED's are completely different and faaaaaaaar more efficient than CFL's. They also shouldn't need to be changed for about 20 years which makes them great for stairway lights.
I meant aren't... brain moves faster than hands. My family used to have nice waterfront property on the St.Lawrence river... one more thing they can tax you on.

CFL's are okay, they save a bit of energy but unless you keep your lights on 24/7 who cares?. I have a CFL in my stairway 12ft up in the damn air and i hate ladders with a passion... it lasted about 2yrs of almost constantly being on. Going to switch to an LED eventually but they dont seem as bright as a CFL.. could just be me.
 

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I love it when you post "scientific" articles. This article is ****ing bullshit. You read, "Paper says GREEN bulbs cause CANCER" and posted it on here thinking, "hahaha got these dumbass tree huggers again" when in reality, you're the dumbass.

Here--let regurgitate some **** that I memorized as a chemistry major while I was in school.

phenol - precursor for aspirin and other drugs. Used in the synthesis of many plastics. Also used as oral analgesics, used in the preparation of cosmetics including sun screens and hair dyes.

naphthalene - also known as moth balls

styrene - also known as styrofoam

Do you hear anyone bitchin n moanin about styrofoam and moth balls causing cancer? No, you don't. So why did you post this garbage?


You and all the others that get their scientific information from the news would be the equivalent of the grandma in this diagram. It might do you some good to actually read the published paper.
 

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Apparently... you didn't memorize **** -frat boy. I simply posted an article that peeked my interest... If you have a problem with the science behind it... take it up with them and prove them wrong -rather then opening your know nothing regurgitating mouth that seems to have manifested an obscene and unhealthy obsession with me.


Health Effects (phenol)

The serious effects of a harmful substance usually increase as both the level and length of exposure increase. Repeated exposure to low levels of phenol in drinking water has been linked with diarrhea and mouth sores in humans; eating very large amounts of phenol has resulted in death. Laboratory animals that drank very large amounts of phenol in water had muscle tremors and loss of coordination.

The effects on humans of breathing phenol in air are unknown. Exposure of animals to high levels of phenol in air for a few minutes is irritating to the lungs, and repeated exposure for several days causes muscle tremors and loss of coordination. Exposure to high levels of phenol for several weeks results in paralysis and severe injury to the heart, kidneys, liver, and lungs, followed by death in some cases.

When exposures involve the skin surface, the size of the total exposed skin can influence the severity of the toxic effects. Small amounts of phenol put on the skin of animals for short times can cause blisters and burns on the exposed area, and spilling weak phenol solutions on large parts of the body (more than 25% of the body surface) can result in death.

The effects of exposure to phenol on human reproduction and the developing fetus are unknown. Pregnant animals that drank water containing high amounts of phenol gave birth to offspring that had low birth weights and birth defects. We do not know whether phenol causes cancer in humans, but cancer occurs in mice when phenol is put on the skin. When phenol is combined with other chemicals that cause cancer and put on the skin, more cancer may occur than when the other chemicals are put on alone.

Phenol can have positive effects when used for medical reasons. It is an antiseptic (kills germs) when put on the skin and may also have antiseptic properties when gargled as a mouthwash. It is an anesthetic (relieves pain) and is a part of some sore-throat remedies (lozenges and formulas). Small amounts of phenol in water have been injected into nerves to reduce pain caused by some nerve disorders. Phenol will kill the outer layers of skin if it remains on the skin, and small amounts of strong solutions of phenol are sometimes put on the skin to remove warts and to treat other skin spots and disorders.

Regulations

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has decided that waters (lakes, streams) should be limited to 0.3 milligrams phenol per liter of water (0.3 mg/L) to protect human health from the possible harmful effects of exposure to phenol by drinking water and eating contaminated water plants and animals. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a limit of 5 parts of phenol per million parts of workroom air (5 ppm) to protect workers during 8-hour workshifts in a 40-hour workweek. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) recommends that the amount of phenol in workroom air be limited to 5 ppm over a 10-hour workshift, and that the workroom air should not contain more than 16 ppm during a 15-minute period.


Health Hazard Information (Naphthalene)
Acute Effects:

* Acute exposure of humans to naphthalene by inhalation, ingestion, and dermal contact is associated with hemolytic anemia, damage to the liver, and, in infants, neurological damage. Symptoms of acute exposure include headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, malaise, confusion, anemia, jaundice, convulsions, and coma. (1,2,6,7)
* Cataracts have been reported in humans acutely exposed to naphthalene by inhalation and ingestion. Cataracts have also been reported in animals following acute oral exposure. (6,7,9)
* Tests involving acute exposure of rats, mice, rabbits, and guinea pigs have demonstrated naphthalene to have moderate to high acute toxicity from ingestion and low to moderate acute toxicity from dermal exposure. (3)

Chronic Effects (Noncancer):

* Chronic exposure of workers to naphthalene has been reported to cause cataracts and retinal hemorrhage. (2,4,5,6,7)
* Chronic inflammation of the lung, chronic nasal inflammation, hyperplasia of the respiratory epithelium in the nose, and metaplasia of the olfactory epithelium were reported in mice chronically exposed to naphthalene via inhalation. (1,6,7)
* Rats, rabbits, and mice chronically exposed to naphthalene via ingestion have developed cataracts and degeneration of the retina. (2,5,6,7)
* Diarrhea, lethargy, hunched posture, rough coats, decreased body weight, and lesions in the kidneys and thymus were observed in rats and mice chronically exposed via gavage (experimentally placing the chemical in the stomach). (2,6,7)
* EPA has calculated a Reference Concentration (RfC) of 0.003 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m3) for naphthalene based on nasal effects in mice. The RfC is an estimate (with uncertainty spanning perhaps an order of magnitude) of a continuous inhalation exposure to the human population (including sensitive subgroups) that is likely to be without appreciable risk of deleterious noncancer effects during a lifetime. It is not a direct estimator of risk but rather a reference point to gauge the potential effects. At exposures increasingly greater than the RfC, the potential for adverse health effects increases. Lifetime exposure above the RfC does not imply that an adverse health effect would necessarily occur. (6,7)
* EPA has medium confidence in the RfC based on: 1) medium confidence in the principal study because adequate numbers of animals were used, severity of nasal effects increased at higher exposure concentrations, high mortality, and hematological evaluation not conducted beyond 14 days; and 2) low to medium confidence in the database because there are no chronic or subchronic inhalation studies in other animal species and there are no reproductive or developmental inhalation studies. (6,7)
* The Reference Dose (RfD) for naphthalene is 0.02 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day (mg/kg/d) based on decreased body weight in male rats. (6,7)
* EPA has low confidence in the RfD based on: 1) high confidence in the principal study because adequate numbers of animals were included and experimental protocols were adequately designed, conducted, and reported; and 2) low confidence in the database because of the lack of adequate chronic oral data, dose-response data for hemolytic anemia, and two-generation reproductive toxicological studies. (6,7)

Reproductive/Developmental Effects:

* Hemolytic anemia has been reported in infants born to mothers who "sniffed" and ingested naphthalene (as mothballs) during pregnancy. The mothers themselves were anemic, but to a lesser extent than the infants. (5,6,7)
* Signs of maternal toxicity (e.g., decreased body weight and lethargy) but no fetal effects were reported in rats and rabbits exposed to naphthalene via gavage. (6,7)
* Maternal toxicity (increased mortality and reduced weight gain) and fetotoxicity (reduced number of live pups per litter) were observed in mice exposed via gavage. (2,6,7)

Cancer Risk:

* Workers occupationally exposed to vapors of naphthalene and coal tar developed laryngeal carcinomas or neoplasms of the pylorus and cecum. However, this study is inadequate because there were no controls, exposure levels were not determined, and subjects were exposed to complex mixtures containing other demonstrated carcinogens. (2,5,6,7)
* Di-, tri-, and tetramethyl naphthalene contaminants of coal tar were found to be carcinogenic when applied to the skin of mice, but naphthalene alone was not. (2,5)
* An increased number of alveolar/bronchiolar adenomas and carcinomas were reported in female mice exposed by inhalation. (1,6,7)
* No carcinogenic responses were reported in rats exposed to naphthalene in their diet and by injection. (2,5,6)
* EPA has classified naphthalene as a Group C, possible human carcinogen. (6,7)

http://www.eco-usa.net/toxics/chemicals/phenol.shtml

http://www.epa.gov/ttnatw01/hlthef/naphthal.html
 

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Hey... frat boy... here's Styrene.



Introduction

Styrene is primarily a synthetic chemical that is used extensively in the manufacture of plastics, rubber, and resins. About 90,000 workers, including those who make boats, tubs, and showers, are potentially exposed to styrene. Health effects from exposure to styrene may involve the central nervous system and include complaints of headache, fatigue, dizziness, confusion, drowsiness, malaise, difficulty in concentrating, and a feeling of intoxication. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classifies styrene as a potential human carcinogen. It is also known as vinylbenzene, ethenylbenzene, cinnamene, or phenylethylene.

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/styrene/index.html
 

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In your styrene symptoms list: "dizziness, confusion, drowsiness, malaise, difficulty in concentrating, and a feeling of intoxication". Apparently we know what is getting in the water that Democrats drink. :D
 

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CFL light bulbs are so 2007.....move up to the LED bulb if you want the latest and greatest.... I love the line about Edisons greatest invention. Imagine if we never improved upon the Wright Bros. greatest invention. Or Henry Fords greatest invention. Hell the only thing left of Edisons original invention is the srew in base. Imagine how happy we would be with his original 40 hour life light bulb that had a carbon element. :crazy::crazy::crazy:

Embrace the future, or get rolled over by it...because you cannot stop it.
 

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1) I'm not a frat boy.

2) Since when do you care about what scientists say, anyway?

ONE group (small group) publishes a paper that says green bulbs cause cancer and you claim "it peaked your interest" but in reality, you posted it on here because it supports your agenda against environmentalists.

Styrene's LD50 value, which is similar to nicotine, is around 50-5000mg per kg of body weight. That means, the average male person weighing 70kg has a 50% chance of being negatively effected by styrene if he were to be exposed to, at the very minimum, 35g of styrene in a short period of time. Sorry, but a light bulb is not going to release 35g of styrene when you turn it on. The light bulb may release a substance that when exposed to in ridiculously high quantities in a short period of time may be toxic/lethal, but that doesn't mean the light bulb causes cancer.

This is the type of important information news outlets do not put into their articles when they report on scientific experimentation. The A=B when C=D and D=F under conditions W, X, Y, and Z.

And if you actually read your quotes, styrene is a POTENTIAL human carcinogen. That means, it is not known whether or not it may cause cancer, but there's a possibility. Same thing with phenol and naphthalene.

* Workers occupationally exposed to vapors of naphthalene and coal tar developed laryngeal carcinomas or neoplasms of the pylorus and cecum. However, this study is inadequate because there were no controls, exposure levels were not determined, and subjects were exposed to complex mixtures containing other demonstrated carcinogens. (2,5,6,7)
* Di-, tri-, and tetramethyl naphthalene contaminants of coal tar were found to be carcinogenic when applied to the skin of mice, but naphthalene alone was not. (2,5)
* An increased number of alveolar/bronchiolar adenomas and carcinomas were reported in female mice exposed by inhalation. (1,6,7)
* No carcinogenic responses were reported in rats exposed to naphthalene in their diet and by injection. (2,5,6)
* EPA has classified naphthalene as a Group C, possible human carcinogen.
Styrene is primarily a synthetic chemical that is used extensively in the manufacture of plastics, rubber, and resins. About 90,000 workers, including those who make boats, tubs, and showers, are potentially exposed to styrene. Health effects from exposure to styrene may involve the central nervous system and include complaints of headache, fatigue, dizziness, confusion, drowsiness, malaise, difficulty in concentrating, and a feeling of intoxication. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classifies styrene as a potential human carcinogen. It is also known as vinylbenzene, ethenylbenzene, cinnamene, or phenylethylene.
You rag on me cause I went to college. Maybe college would have done you some good and you would have learned to be literate.
 

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Going to switch to an LED eventually but they dont seem as bright as a CFL.. could just be me.
It's a matter of spectrum that our eyes are used to.

They are working on that.

I have some nice soft white ones that are nice, but still not the coveted 100 watt painters work horse.

When you see ones used by the pot heads for grow boxes, or coral reefs, you'd say "****.....that's barely any light there." But the brightness and intensity is there, just not a spectrum our eyes and brain utilize.
 

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1) I'm not a frat boy.

2) Since when do you care about what scientists say, anyway?

ONE group (small group) publishes a paper that says green bulbs cause cancer and you claim "it peaked your interest" but in reality, you posted it on here because it supports your agenda against environmentalists.

Styrene's LD50 value, which is similar to nicotine, is around 50-5000mg per kg of body weight. That means, the average male person weighing 70kg has a 50% chance of being negatively effected by styrene if he were to be exposed to, at the very minimum, 35g of styrene in a short period of time. Sorry, but a light bulb is not going to release 35g of styrene when you turn it on. The light bulb may release a substance that when exposed to in ridiculously high quantities in a short period of time may be toxic/lethal, but that doesn't mean the light bulb causes cancer.

This is the type of important information news outlets do not put into their articles when they report on scientific experimentation. The A=B when C=D and D=F under conditions W, X, Y, and Z.

And if you actually read your quotes, styrene is a POTENTIAL human carcinogen. That means, it is not known whether or not it may cause cancer, but there's a possibility. Same thing with phenol and naphthalene.



You rag on me cause I went to college. Maybe college would have done you some good and you would have learned to be literate.
Relax dude...preacher doesn't rag on you because you went to college...he rags on you because you show how ignorant he is. And you show how he is a single minded Ludite that would have us playing with our own feces if he had his way.

Keep up the good work educating us and don't sweat the neanderthals that cannot handle the truth. :thumbsup:
 

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1) I'm not a frat boy.

2) Since when do you care about what scientists say, anyway?

ONE group (small group) publishes a paper that says green bulbs cause cancer and you claim "it peaked your interest" but in reality, you posted it on here because it supports your agenda against environmentalists.
That's not what you put forth. You put it forth as absolute stupidity and garbage. That there is NO real danger. That it was similar to aspirin or mothballs. You were shown to be incorrect.

Let me ask you something, frat boy... why do you feel that the EPA puts out such a stern warning and recommendations for the breakage of these bulbs ? Do you think it's because they are about as dangerous as an aspirin... or a mothball -or do you think they really are that dangerous ?

You rag on me cause I went to college. Maybe college would have done you some good and you would have learned to be literate.
This premise of yours... is also incorrect. You are the one who is constantly reminding anyone that will listen, that you are an educated man of the sciences. -and any one that is not is incapable of understanding the complexities of any given subject that may have the slightest correlation to science... let alone immersed in it. (Kind of like machine reminding anyone that will listen how much money he has and equating his intelligence to his money... when in fact -his intelligence amounts to no more then the writing on the back of the Gold line brochure he posts up as original thought)

Let me explain to you how this all came about. Kids such as yourself achieve a degree in an aspect of higher learning. Which is commendable and a larger achievement in higher learning them I have ever attained. The problem comes when you equate your own intelligence as higher then it actually is, due to that degree... when the fact stands that your actual intelligence is simply, average.
 

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Why do you feel that the EPA puts out such a stern warning and recommendations for the breakage of these bulbs ? Do you think it's because they are about as dangerous as an aspirin... or a mothball -or do you think they really are that dangerous ?
:agree: It does get old calling HAZMAT every time one breaks.. :laughing:

Seriously, anyone else ever read the recommendations for disposing of one of these bulbs? :lookinup:
 
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